This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

[BegBy]

Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

I'm streaming a fielding clinic right now. You just need to use it properly.

Because "using it properly" changes the animations and issues related to them.

Brilliant post. Profound input.

[BA2929]

Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

I had a routine grounder to 1B. He picked it up and ran to the bag and just before the bag he did that slow walk and then just casually touched the bag. The problem is that the runner was SAFE. The first baseman didn't show any urgency to get out the runner that was coming straight at him. It was like a programmed animation that didn't take into account the runners speed.

I just got the game last week and I've already had numerous issues like this.

2nd baseman taking too long to throw to first on a routine grounder and the runner is safe.

Catcher picks up the ball on a bunt and despite me prompting him to throw to first, he stands there, waits a few seconds, then throws. Runner = safe.

Then the same thing happened above to me with the first baseman.

This has all happened in only about 10 games of play. I played The Show in both 14 and 15, so I'm not new to the franchise and I'm hoping this is fixed for 17 or else I probably won't pick it up. I got far too frustrated with certain aspects of 15 and that's why I didn't pick up 16 until it went on sale for $15.

Honestly all they have to do is make it so the longer you press the button, the more urgency your fielder reacts with. It can be tied to throw power if that makes it easier.

[capa]

Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

Odd...those were pre-patch issues. Patches seemed to fix most of them. Not all, but most.

[CoachModer]

Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

That is why I created a modification to my sliders, which is in my blog in the sliders forum. I also use a speed of (0) for the outfielders and they still seem to get to every ball and make that unbelievable Gold Glove catch on every fly ball. I currently use (4) for my fielder arms and (4) for speed as a baseline. Now these can be increased with the modifiers if I happened to get on that game, but they are a good starting point.


I agree hitting doesn't seem to be the issue, it is the unremarkable plays by the vacuum cleaners playing the field. Yes, field is 10 times better than what it used to be, but not inline with the average sliders so they need a major overhaul next year to make it more life like, to include the reaction time of the fielders for starters, speed of the fielders, speed of the runners, because if you ask me if you use a speed of 5 for a base runner you will see people who normally don't fly around the bases do so. Now it is included in my modifiers only as an extra incentive should you draw that card (4%) chance.


Coach

[Chai2112]

Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

I am just really not seeing what others here are seeing. Every game I play plays out very realistically. I see some vacuum-like plays, but no more than what happens in real life. It also depends on the fielder. I also see plenty of balls get by fielders, particularly those who aren't gold glovers, both by my fielders and by the CPUs. Could it be a difficulty setting? I wonder if people who are more frustrated with all of this are playing on Hall of Fame. Perhaps try lowering the difficulty level and adjust the sliders. I've been playing this game since 2006, which means I'm very good at it, but that doesn't mean I should play on the hardest difficulty level, which is what I used to think. I now play on All Star with sliders adjusted accordingly. In years past I would play on Hall of Fame and the game would be far more frustrating and unrealistic. This is the first year that it plays nearly perfectly, the CPU doesn't have absurd comebacks all the time, and I have no (or few) complaints with fielding. Would love to hear people's thoughts on this.

[KBLover]

Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

I am just really not seeing what others here are seeing. Every game I play plays out very realistically. I see some vacuum-like plays, but no more than what happens in real life. It also depends on the fielder. I also see plenty of balls get by fielders, particularly those who aren't gold glovers, both by my fielders and by the CPUs. Could it be a difficulty setting? I wonder if people who are more frustrated with all of this are playing on Hall of Fame. Perhaps try lowering the difficulty level and adjust the sliders. I've been playing this game since 2006, which means I'm very good at it, but that doesn't mean I should play on the hardest difficulty level, which is what I used to think. I now play on All Star with sliders adjusted accordingly. In years past I would play on Hall of Fame and the game would be far more frustrating and unrealistic. This is the first year that it plays nearly perfectly, the CPU doesn't have absurd comebacks all the time, and I have no (or few) complaints with fielding. Would love to hear people's thoughts on this.

I play on All-Star and see a lot of the problems mentioned, especially the lack of urgency on a lot of ground balls.

I've lowered fielder speed for the reason of them getting to so many balls without a problem. What's funny is that on 0 speed, they still get to balls without problems, but some of the more difficult plays are actually difficult. I had to go to 0 speed in MLB15 - and I'm having to do it again. Same reason - difficult to defend zones are still too easy on default - though I blame the trajectories of flyballs...but since you can't alter that, I go with the fielders and the trajectories still make things relatively easy for them.

[Chai2112]

Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

I play on All-Star and see a lot of the problems mentioned, especially the lack of urgency on a lot of ground balls.

What fielding setting do you play on? Buttons or analog? I play on analog, always charge the grounder, and pre-load the stick, and I very rarely have players not being urgent on plays.

[AncientDiety]

Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

Fielding has long been the weakest part of the show, it still has a ways to go.

[KBLover]

Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

What fielding setting do you play on? Buttons or analog? I play on analog, always charge the grounder, and pre-load the stick, and I very rarely have players not being urgent on plays.

I play Button Throwing + Auto-fielding.

[saucerset]

Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

So my right fielder just grabbed a foul ball out of the stands, ran about 5 steps and upon seeing the guy on 2nd tagging up decided to rifle the ball back into the stands and watch as the guy tagging up runs home. Then the 3rd baseman bends down to pick up an imaginary ball just after the runner hits the plate. The ball then magically reappears in the 3rd baseman's hand. If you look in the stands during the play there is a lady standing up showing off the ball.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LP-zMMCMeA

[RLB]

Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

Ah ha! The throw the ball in the stands and fake the guy out at home play. That is special, no doubt.

[Chai2112]

Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

So my right fielder just grabbed a foul ball out of the stands, ran about 5 steps and upon seeing the guy on 2nd tagging up decided to rifle the ball back into the stands and watch as the guy tagging up runs home. Then the 3rd baseman bends down to pick up an imaginary ball just after the runner hits the plate. The ball then magically reappears in the 3rd baseman's hand. If you look in the stands during the play there is a lady standing up showing off the ball.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LP-zMMCMeA

HAHHAHAHhahha that is good stuff. Never seen anything like it in my games though.

[KBLover]

Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

So my right fielder just grabbed a foul ball out of the stands, ran about 5 steps and upon seeing the guy on 2nd tagging up decided to rifle the ball back into the stands and watch as the guy tagging up runs home. Then the 3rd baseman bends down to pick up an imaginary ball just after the runner hits the plate. The ball then magically reappears in the 3rd baseman's hand. If you look in the stands during the play there is a lady standing up showing off the ball.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LP-zMMCMeA

Your team has developed the Telekinesis trait.

Don't be hating, be lucky. I hear it has like a 0.2% chance of happening

They need some time to upgrade it, but at least they have it.

[Culture Rot]

Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

Total legacy issue for sure

[redsfan4life]

Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

I only made it through 2 months of the game this year. It just feels really stale and is in need of change in general imo. Fielding is the worst.