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  • EWRMETS
    All Star
    • Jul 2002
    • 7491

    #61
    Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

    Does anyone else have trouble playing the outfield more than infield? I have an error every 3 games due to difficulty in lining up somewhat routine outfield catches.

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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52728

      #62
      Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

      Please please please get rid of the animation of corner infielders ducking underneath line drives.

      Very frustrating.
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      • HustlinOwl
        All Star
        • Mar 2004
        • 9713

        #63
        Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

        Originally posted by EWRMETS
        Does anyone else have trouble playing the outfield more than infield? I have an error every 3 games due to difficulty in lining up somewhat routine outfield catches.
        no issues here, but play primarily online h2h rated/online franchise

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        • Comduklakis
          MVP
          • Oct 2005
          • 1887

          #64
          Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

          Originally posted by EWRMETS
          Does anyone else have trouble playing the outfield more than infield? I have an error every 3 games due to difficulty in lining up somewhat routine outfield catches.
          YES. After 100 games I had 11 errors for JD Martinez, 8 for Maybin, and 3 for Upton, in addition to a couple more for backups. The main problem is gliding into the circle. Being unable to control the running speed, I can't glide into the catching zone like they do on auto field. So I get awkward animations as they try to line up. I finally got sick of it and turned on auto field because I couldn't continue to lose games on OF errors. It's a shame because despite the lack of urgency, I enjoy fielding in the IF.
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          • HighCmpPct
            Denny 3K
            • Oct 2011
            • 3593

            #65
            Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

            Tagging is something I'd really like to see get some attention. They are slow, inaccurate, and rarely if ever allow the momentum of the throw to carry the tag to the runner.

            Far far too often a hook slide will beat a tag it shouldn't in this game. There seems to be a bit of a pause from the catch to the tag attempt.

            Another smaller issue I have is on manual fielding while diving for balls in the infield. Far too often when you attempt to dive for a harder hit ball especially at third when it's close to the fielder they will do a slow full regular dive and allow the ball to just roll right under them.

            After tons of time spent at third I can attest that it's not that difficult to decipher what kind of attempt you should make on the ball. Now I'm not saying you should get them all obviously. But there's a difference in not being able to get a glove or body on a ball, and diving over the top of one because you dove over it.

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            • mikestanek1
              Rookie
              • Apr 2013
              • 7

              #66
              Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

              The franchise needs some help. It's the same issues year after year. I'm so tired of line drives hitting the pitchers face at 100 mph and he ends up perfectly fine and makes the play or just 6 hard ground balls every game hitting the pitchers leg and stopping right in front on him so he can make the out. This almost never happens in real life.

              My worst issue is balls just going right through outfielders. This should never happen. So many issues in the franchise that never get addressed. These are just two

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              • JBCizzle
                Rookie
                • Sep 2016
                • 14

                #67
                Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

                I scanned the thread quickly but I couldn't agree more with the linedrives off the pitchers Icomputer) resulting in the pitchers regrouping and making the throw, and the pitchers (human) often moving a few steps after picking up a ball instead of immediately throwing it to the base (which I've had my finger on the button since I threw the pitch) resulting in the batter being safe. I've actually lost no-hitters because of this. Multiple.

                I also hate the OF RTTS fielding. I've always had a bone to pick with the "bad throw decision" option as who are they to criticize my decision, but my OF has been in the right spot and then somehow the ball drops beside him and I get an error (without even touching the ball, which is not realistic given current baseballl scoring rules).

                I like the SS fielding in 2016 (with the exception that I believe a really small percentage of the time we catch a runner stealing).

                The one thing I disagree with is the notion that the fielding is the worst aspect of MLB The Show 2016. To me, that is BY FAR the baserunning.

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                • Mike Lowe
                  All Star
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 5286

                  #68
                  Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

                  Will using auto fielding prevent the balls going through OFs magicially? I'm beyond frustrated w how many additional runs this has cost me.

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                  • KBLover
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 12172

                    #69
                    Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

                    Originally posted by Mike Lowe
                    Will using auto fielding prevent the balls going through OFs magicially? I'm beyond frustrated w how many additional runs this has cost me.

                    I use auto fielding and haven't seen that ever.

                    Not sure if that's the cure, but fwiw it's an observation I can make.
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                    • Greencollarbaseball
                      Pro
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 926

                      #70
                      Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

                      I use auto fielding and I see plays made by my guys that I know would never be made know matter how good I would be at the controls. Players making leaping catches, especially my third baseman, have made me jump out of my seat and pump my fist.
                      The one type of play that is infuriating is the barehanded attempts on somewhat hard hit choppers by my middle infielders. Pisses me off even more so when the runner is slow and if my fielder happens to make the play, he throws the runner out by 30 feet. There is no need for that animation at times.


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                      • Bunselpower32
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 947

                        #71
                        Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

                        This game needs a total overhaul.

                        Just had two soft grounders go past carpenter at first and he reacted like a laser beam had fired at him.

                        I think it stems from the fact that the engine basically has threads running all over. The default sliders aren’t great and have things to correct, but if you change one thing to correct a problem, it changes something else, and so on and so on.

                        But on actual gameplay, balls off the pitcher, balls past the corner fielders, faster cpu fielders than my own, the pop up epidemic that makes this game almost unplayable by itself. I have never seen a ball fouled back to the screen. I’ve tried to adjust sliders all year, still can’t get any consistency to any sort of good games.

                        Each year they correct something by tweaking then engine, and we’re past the point where those fixes help. It’s like an old car that’s been fixed with mostly third hand parts. Eventually the engine needs to be rebuilt and replaced, otherwise you won’t have any accurate physics or animations, which is basically where we are right now.

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                        • mikestanek1
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 7

                          #72
                          Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

                          I don't know much about the people who make these games but it doesn't seem like they know a whole lot about baseball besides the basics. I've watched their live feeds from time to time and they were embarrassing. I think this franchise needs to hire some people who actually know baseball. There are so many issues and areas where the game is lacking that no true baseball enthusiast would ever overlook.

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                          • Steven78
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 7240

                            #73
                            Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

                            Originally posted by mikestanek1
                            I don't know much about the people who make these games but it doesn't seem like they know a whole lot about baseball besides the basics. I've watched their live feeds from time to time and they were embarrassing. I think this franchise needs to hire some people who actually know baseball. There are so many issues and areas where the game is lacking that no true baseball enthusiast would ever overlook.
                            The worst was when someone brought up the pitchers hand after releasing the ball was open handed and someone from the team actually said thats how its supposed to be as that is how it is in real life.

                            It was mind boggling.

                            Also the whole playoff fatigue "working as intended" was another head scratcher.

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                            • HighCmpPct
                              Denny 3K
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 3593

                              #74
                              Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

                              Originally posted by Bunselpower32
                              I have never seen a ball fouled back to the screen.
                              I'm currently working on a slider set based on 0 timing for both user and CPU. Reason I bring this up is in the first game of my latest test session I had this happen quite a few times.

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                              • Bunselpower32
                                Pro
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 947

                                #75
                                Re: This game needs a complete fielding overhaul.

                                Originally posted by HighCmpPct
                                I'm currently working on a slider set based on 0 timing for both user and CPU. Reason I bring this up is in the first game of my latest test session I had this happen quite a few times.
                                I play with human timing at 0. Doesn't lower the frequency of flares or make me foul anything back, for me anyway.

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