MLB Network Presentation Confirmed For MLB The Show 17

[vegasmike]

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I noticed in this video or another gamespot video, there was Inside Edge saying (4-8 against Arietta)...Hoping that we get cool presented statistics on more moments like that.

it would be cool if this was dynamic as the season goes along?

[Blzer]

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Vasgersian is fine in general and honestly quite good in a solo booth when you mute the other guys but I would be beyond thrilled to have Vin Scully come in and record lines for a solo booth mode. Hey, he's got the free time now, right? :wink: Or they could just go through his half century of game calls and just record all the dialogue they need from that.

For Vin Scully, pick up a PSX and play any of the older versions of the game when 989 was running things.

Not that this is what makes Vasgersian better in person, but calls like these are completely absent from the game, and I do wish there would be a little more feeling of spontaneity/excitement depending on the situation:

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[Caulfield]

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Vasgersian is fine in general and honestly quite good in a solo booth when you mute the other guys but I would be beyond thrilled to have Vin Scully come in and record lines for a solo booth mode. Hey, he's got the free time now, right? :wink: Or they could just go through his half century of game calls and just record all the dialogue they need from that.

For Vin Scully, pick up a PSX and play any of the older versions of the game when 989 was running things.

Not that this is what makes Vasgersian better in person, but calls like these are completely absent from the game, and I do wish there would be a little more feeling of spontaneity/excitement depending on the situation:

I think instead of having whoever does the PBP, rather than have them come in a read some prefabricated lines, it would be better to sift and lift through whatever games they called IRL and put those lines in game. This would be more difficult and sony would probably also have to pay whoever owned the broadcast rights to said PBP (or sony could compensate them with free in-game adverts) but it could potentially be far more rewarding than fake commentary.
You might even get better commentary culling from Vasgersians XFL, poker, UFC and Olympic stuff than most of the phoney-baloney he currently "reads". Santa Maria!

[bcruise]

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I think instead of having whoever does the PBP, rather than have them come in a read some prefabricated lines, it would be better to sift and lift through whatever games they called IRL and put those lines in game. This would be more difficult and sony would probably also have to pay whoever owned the broadcast rights to said PBP (or sony could compensate them with free in-game adverts) but it could potentially be far more rewarding than fake commentary.
You might even get better commentary culling from Vasgersians XFL, poker, UFC and Olympic stuff than most of the phoney-baloney he currently "reads". Santa Maria!

I'm not going to try to claim I know more about audio recording than I do (which isn't much). But I believe the studios invest in those recording booths for a reason. When all the sound is recorded in the same place you control the acoustics, and everything comes out at a consistent volume/tone/pitch. When you start pulling pre-recorded lines from other sources you have no idea what the conditions were for those recordings. I'd imagine MLB broadcast booths have very different acoustics from SCEA's studio recording booth.

Anyway, what I'm getting at is that the lines aren't going to sound consistent if you pull them from different sources, even if it's the same person's voice. And trying to normalize audio from a bunch of different sources would probably require far more development time than it would be worth.

And that's just for basic PBP, describing events as they happen on the field. I don't even want to think about splicing in player names in an environment like that.

[batflip666]

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Nice find!....MLB Network!

They switched to another game that did not have it, so maybe it is only active for like the game of the week or its a selectable package?

Saw a rumor that theres more then 1 presentation option this year so it would be easy for them to go into options and select another score box.

We'll know for sure Monday I think.

[bcruise]

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Saw a rumor that theres more then 1 presentation option this year so it would be easy for them to go into options and select another score box.

We'll know for sure Monday I think.

That's no rumor - they actually went through and changed it on stream (had to because it was set on MLB Network by default, before they wanted to reveal it). There were actually multiple (3) presentation styles last year too, although you couldn't choose - they were based on the home team market size, I believe.

Time will tell whether it's a selectable option this year (for both play now and franchise) - It was there in the menu but that's no guarantee it isn't a special dev option.

I suspect we'll find out for sure on this next week - perhaps as early as Monday with the Gamestop video centering around presentation.

[SchwarBear12]

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I wouldnt mind it if, come April 1, Ken Harrelson and Tim McCarver were announced as next years commentary team.

Actually I wouldn't turn off commentary if that were the case.


It would be so brutal to listen, it'd be like a glorious trainwreck.

Fans could create a drinking game based off of how many times someone's 99 Create-a-player in DD gets a "He Gone" or McCarver botches analysis, that the entire community would stay a flat '0' because we'd all be s**t-faced drunk and passed out by the 3rd inning.

[Trackball]

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Actually I wouldn't turn off commentary if that were the case.

It would be so brutal to listen, it'd be like a glorious trainwreck.

Fans could create a drinking game based off of how many times someone's 99 Create-a-player in DD gets a "He Gone" or McCarver botches analysis, that the entire community would stay a flat '0' because we'd all be s**t-faced drunk and passed out by the 3rd inning.

Imagine if Sony San Diego somehow got a hold of the old NFL Blitz commentary team.
I know that will never, ever happen (different employers, for one thing), but MAN I miss that hilarious commentary.
Seriously, the best in the history of sports video games. Have a listen to the 2001 release--I think the 2003 version was the best commentary, but that's not on YouTube.

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[Blzer]

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^ I only got a minute into it (trust me, I could hear the whole thing if I wanted to), but just a minute in a point that I wanted to make that not a lot of games do with their writing is have multiple ways to say the same thing. I don't even mean different lines for the same outcome, I mean literally the same line but with different inflection. Many different "What was he thinking??" and "What a disaster!" lines there that just repeat themselves, but they are all different takes.

That certainly aids in the variety. You don't need to have all unique verbage each time, otherwise that really does start to wear on you. You can have both kinds of things, though: varietal ways of saying a line, and varietal lines for the same result. I wish they did that in ESPN NFL 2K5, where bringing a kickoff out of the end zone near the 20 yard line didn't prompt the same two lines about "not really paying off" and "tearing a page out of War & Peace." Ah well, I guess there is only so much memory a game can hold.

Anyway, if we wanted to do something that is slightly more relevant, we could have pointed to SlugFest.

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[Caulfield]

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I'm not going to try to claim I know more about audio recording than I do (which isn't much). But I believe the studios invest in those recording booths for a reason. When all the sound is recorded in the same place you control the acoustics, and everything comes out at a consistent volume/tone/pitch. When you start pulling pre-recorded lines from other sources you have no idea what the conditions were for those recordings. I'd imagine MLB broadcast booths have very different acoustics from SCEA's studio recording booth.

Anyway, what I'm getting at is that the lines aren't going to sound consistent if you pull them from different sources, even if it's the same person's voice. And trying to normalize audio from a bunch of different sources would probably require far more development time than it would be worth.

And that's just for basic PBP, describing events as they happen on the field. I don't even want to think about splicing in player names in an environment like that.

Yeah, thats a major sticking point. Instead of reading lines sony gives them, sony ought to ask Vasgersian to reread some of his actual PBP from IRL. There's no reason to get excited about reading a players stat line or a call on a strike one or ball one, but the Show has plenty other moments where they need the real Matty V. and not what they get presently.
But then, maybe after 10+ years with the Show, he's growing tired of it. And its not like when he first started doing the Show, he was in San Diego. He's partially moved on, maybe it'stime he completely moved on.

[Culture Rot]

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I genuinely did not know Matt V was capable of excitement until hearing him commentate in real life

[aguero90]

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What they need to tell him flat out is, "you need to do it just as if you're doing it on mlbn!" Maybe it's a mental block, where he can't get into it unless he's doing a real game, if that's the case, then we're in trouble. But when you really think about it, there's no excuse for that, he's a professional, and if he can't "voice act" the right way, he shouldn't be doing a video game, not in this generation of games. It's not hard to do on demand exciting pbp, if I can do it, he as his real life job should be able to do it. Harsh I know, but true. Hopefully on Thursday, we hear some good pbp!

[jb12780]

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SANTA MARIA!!!!

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[Maxwhite14]

I didn't know he was the size of a leprechaun,dude is small lol
Walked by him at game 5 of the WS and wondered if he carried a pot of gold with him.

[Syce]

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What they need to tell him flat out is, "you need to do it just as if you're doing it on mlbn!" Maybe it's a mental block, where he can't get into it unless he's doing a real game, if that's the case, then we're in trouble. But when you really think about it, there's no excuse for that, he's a professional, and if he can't "voice act" the right way, he shouldn't be doing a video game, not in this generation of games. It's not hard to do on demand exciting pbp, if I can do it, he as his real life job should be able to do it. Harsh I know, but true. Hopefully on Thursday, we hear some good pbp!

he should take a page out of the pbp guys in NBA, when someone dunks or something they will get really excited about it.