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  • dran1984
    MVP
    • Mar 2011
    • 1221

    #241
    Re: MLB Network Presentation Confirmed For MLB The Show 17

    Originally posted by aguero90
    What they need to tell him flat out is, "you need to do it just as if you're doing it on mlbn!" Maybe it's a mental block, where he can't get into it unless he's doing a real game, if that's the case, then we're in trouble. But when you really think about it, there's no excuse for that, he's a professional, and if he can't "voice act" the right way, he shouldn't be doing a video game, not in this generation of games. It's not hard to do on demand exciting pbp, if I can do it, he as his real life job should be able to do it. Harsh I know, but true. Hopefully on Thursday, we hear some good pbp!
    Not true, just your opinion. There are many different factors in play with why the audio is off in the game. To put it on one person's ability to "voice act" is just ridiculous. Watching live action develop in front of you and reading lines from a script in a studio are two completely different things.

    Like you said, he's a professional and he has done play-by-play for years. They don't re-record his lines every year so most of the lines that are in the game aren't going to be taken out or redone. There is only so much they can do with commentary at this point aside from ripping everything out and starting from scratch.

    One of the big issues is that they should all record in the same studio together which is 100% correct. At this point though, if you that introduce commentary with all of the current commentary it would sound a mess due to different acoustics and such.

    The people in charge of the audio are professionals too. They know the commentary is lacking, I'm also sure that we don't come up with any ideas on here that they haven't thought about or discussed already.

    They have already said Matt V isn't going anywhere but year after year its the same discussion. At this point it is what it is and until the gut the commentary and start over we will have the same complaints.

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    • aguero90
      MVP
      • Oct 2013
      • 1252

      #242
      Re: MLB Network Presentation Confirmed For MLB The Show 17

      With all do respect, I have to disagree with you completely. It is his lack of ability to voice act, not the script. I'm not talking about repeat lines, I'm talking about the lack of excitement in his voice. I can sit here and say the exact lines he does, but make them much more exciting, with different inflections and such. Maybe it's a visual thing? What I mean is, since I can't see that good, and don't know what it's like to do live action, that's the reason I'm able to look at nothing and do exciting pbp, where as he's visual, he knows what it's supposed to look like as he's doing real pbp, so when he's recording, he can't just "do it." It really could be that simple, look at Kevin Harlin, Jon Miller, Garry Thorn, what do they all have in common? good "on demand voice actors." Consiquently, all good in their respective video games.
      1458, not counting playoffs, that's the number of games in a row I haven't missed! Go Yanks!

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      • dran1984
        MVP
        • Mar 2011
        • 1221

        #243
        Re: MLB Network Presentation Confirmed For MLB The Show 17

        Originally posted by aguero90
        With all do respect, I have to disagree with you completely. It is his lack of ability to voice act, not the script. I'm not talking about repeat lines, I'm talking about the lack of excitement in his voice. I can sit here and say the exact lines he does, but make them much more exciting, with different inflections and such. Maybe it's a visual thing? What I mean is, since I can't see that good, and don't know what it's like to do live action, that's the reason I'm able to look at nothing and do exciting pbp, where as he's visual, he knows what it's supposed to look like as he's doing real pbp, so when he's recording, he can't just "do it." It really could be that simple, look at Kevin Harlin, Jon Miller, Garry Thorn, what do they all have in common? good "on demand voice actors." Consiquently, all good in their respective video games.
        I would be interested to find out what context the companies provide when they record. Do they provide visuals of actual plays? Do they all record lines together so they feed off of each others energy? There is a lot that we don't know about the process. Maybe it comes down to personality. Being an Orioles fan, I love listening to Gary Thorne. He's not the most accurate PBP guy but he has personality and provides entertainment. Point being, it's possible different personalities translate different results. Matt tends to have a more laid back personality.

        But until we know the details of how they do the recording sessions it's impossible to accurately come to a conclusion.

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        • RunRickyRun24
          Rookie
          • Feb 2017
          • 384

          #244
          Re: MLB Network Presentation Confirmed For MLB The Show 17

          Originally posted by aguero90
          With all do respect, I have to disagree with you completely. It is his lack of ability to voice act, not the script. I'm not talking about repeat lines, I'm talking about the lack of excitement in his voice. I can sit here and say the exact lines he does, but make them much more exciting, with different inflections and such. Maybe it's a visual thing? What I mean is, since I can't see that good, and don't know what it's like to do live action, that's the reason I'm able to look at nothing and do exciting pbp, where as he's visual, he knows what it's supposed to look like as he's doing real pbp, so when he's recording, he can't just "do it." It really could be that simple, look at Kevin Harlin, Jon Miller, Garry Thorn, what do they all have in common? good "on demand voice actors." Consiquently, all good in their respective video games.


          I totally agree with you. Funny but I was watching the 30 for 30 on the XLF a few weeks ago and Matt was doing pbp. Not sure if u know but it was a football league Vince McMahon tried to start up in the early 2000s. Vince actually said that he wasn't entertaining enough/vibrant enough so he replaced him in the prime time game with Jim Ross (long time wwf broadcaster) and but him on the less marquee game.


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          • aguero90
            MVP
            • Oct 2013
            • 1252

            #245
            Re: MLB Network Presentation Confirmed For MLB The Show 17

            We'll see how things have improved this week!! We know Matt can do it, it's just getting it out of him for the game we all love.
            1458, not counting playoffs, that's the number of games in a row I haven't missed! Go Yanks!

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            • ovm807
              Rookie
              • Aug 2007
              • 111

              #246
              Re: MLB Network Presentation Confirmed For MLB The Show 17

              Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
              I think you guys wanting Vasgersian gone are nuts. He's one of the best in the business.
              I agree but he's not himself in the game. He doesn't come across as well with the scripted material.

              I watch MLB Central everyday and he is a good time.

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              • dran1984
                MVP
                • Mar 2011
                • 1221

                #247
                Re: MLB Network Presentation Confirmed For MLB The Show 17

                Originally posted by RunRickyRun24
                I totally agree with you. Funny but I was watching the 30 for 30 on the XLF a few weeks ago and Matt was doing pbp. Not sure if u know but it was a football league Vince McMahon tried to start up in the early 2000s. Vince actually said that he wasn't entertaining enough/vibrant enough so he replaced him in the prime time game with Jim Ross (long time wwf broadcaster) and but him on the less marquee game.


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                You're seriously using anything involving the XFL as an example? Really?

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                • SilverBullet1929
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 1924

                  #248
                  Re: MLB Network Presentation Confirmed For MLB The Show 17

                  Originally posted by dran1984
                  You're seriously using anything involving the XFL as an example? Really?
                  No he said the XLF

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                  • Archie56
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1556

                    #249
                    Re: MLB Network Presentation Confirmed For MLB The Show 17

                    Originally posted by SilverBullet1929
                    No he said the XLF
                    It's actually the XFL. He messed up.

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                    • SilverBullet1929
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 1924

                      #250
                      Re: MLB Network Presentation Confirmed For MLB The Show 17

                      Originally posted by Archie56
                      It's actually the XFL. He messed up.

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                      Sweet lord. Really?

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                      • NAFBUC
                        ShowTime!
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 1277

                        #251
                        Re: MLB Network Presentation Confirmed For MLB The Show 17

                        Originally posted by dran1984
                        I would be interested to find out what context the companies provide when they record. Do they provide visuals of actual plays? Do they all record lines together so they feed off of each others energy? There is a lot that we don't know about the process. Maybe it comes down to personality. Being an Orioles fan, I love listening to Gary Thorne. He's not the most accurate PBP guy but he has personality and provides entertainment. Point being, it's possible different personalities translate different results. Matt tends to have a more laid back personality.

                        But until we know the details of how they do the recording sessions it's impossible to accurately come to a conclusion.
                        Good points about the audio process for pbp guys in The Show. One thing I like about Gary Thorne, he always has a few nuggets of relevant info about the opposing player (team) during the progression of the game.

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                        • grgmths1433
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 1936

                          #252
                          MLB Network Presentation Confirmed For MLB The Show 17

                          The game hasn't even been released yet. So how you y'all what Harold sound like in the game. I know I gonna enjoy the game regardless how someone sounds. Fans ask for new change and gets it but it's not enough. Come on peeps it's a video game.
                          PSN: Dreamchaser_865

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                          • extremeskins04
                            That's top class!
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 3868

                            #253
                            Re: MLB Network Presentation Confirmed For MLB The Show 17

                            Harold Reynolds sounds fine to me.

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                            • Aensland
                              Rookie
                              • May 2014
                              • 246

                              #254
                              Re: MLB Network Presentation Confirmed For MLB The Show 17

                              Originally posted by extremeskins04
                              Harold Reynolds sounds fine to me.

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qs-NRPZEO0
                              Ppl just like to complain over nothing.

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                              • NEOPARADIGM
                                Banned
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 2788

                                #255
                                Re: MLB Network Presentation Confirmed For MLB The Show 17

                                my issue with matt has nothing to do with what he says or how he says it - i'd grade him a solid b or b+ overall - my issue with him is that he just doesn't sound very good. in my day announcers were expected to have "pipes," a "voice for radio." matt just sounds like some dude. i have the exact same beef with mario impemba calling my tigers games on fox. guess it's the price i pay growing up with ernie harwell, paul carey, george kell & harry caray.

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