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  • PhilliesFan13
    Banned
    • May 2009
    • 15651

    #301
    Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

    Originally posted by Steve_SDS
    Are you kidding me? That horse is a liquid now. You guys have beaten it so hard and for so long that there are no solids left. Believe me, we're well aware of your issue with Matt. The more you continue to pound on it isn't going to make a difference. We're doing our best to address it but even with thousands of new Vasgersian lines, this year was primarily about replacing 10 years of color commentary. No small feat. Our entire team is only about a quarter the size of 2Ks. There's only so much we can do in a year. We busted our butts this year to get in all that we could. I'm sure we set a single year record for time in the recording studio for the 15 years I've been working on this game.

    But by all means, continue to beat this horse. You're only going to splatter yourself with horse matter.


    Thank you!

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    • TripleCrown9
      Keep the Faith
      • May 2010
      • 23686

      #302
      Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

      Originally posted by ArchitectsMetalcore
      Well finally, that settles the argument once and for all unlike all the other vague statements with numbers. Good to know that going into the game to not expect much this year!
      Dude, that isn't necessary.
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      • earthlight897
        Rookie
        • Apr 2015
        • 28

        #303
        Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

        Found this video of Harold and Matt praising the dev team on their Hot Stove show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az4wawuFn8U

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        • WaitTilNextYear
          Go Cubs Go
          • Mar 2013
          • 16830

          #304
          Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

          Originally posted by tnixen
          So I take it you do not agree with me on the subject?
          It's not even about who agrees with who at this point. We could just do without all the repeat posts, whether that pertains to Matt V's excitement level or the height of the numerals on the jerseys, or the exact shade of the jerseys. That is literally spamming. Make your point once and make it well, then move on. Some of you guys have a nasty habit of making a dozen posts about the same exact gripe.

          The devs also shouldn't need to re-explain things to people 10 times in 10 different ways. Especially to people who post here often. They show great patience in attempting to, however.
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          • agentlaw13
            Pro
            • Feb 2009
            • 557

            #305
            MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

            Originally posted by ArchitectsMetalcore
            Good to know that going into the game to not expect much this year!

            Well stick with playing 16 then since you are so sure about the "lack" of play by play improvements. Cmon man, They have redone most of the commentary and we've only seen 1 stream on it so far. So I think the judgment on the presentation improvements is a bit premature. I agree it has gotten stale over the years but adding 2 new guys and redoing most of Matt's lines is a big leap in the right direction if you ask me. I'm excited about that.

            I appreciate the efforts this dev team puts forth every year. It's obvious they are baseball fans and they care about their product. Being the only MLB game on the PS4, they could just rest on their laurels and just do the minimum from year to year. But I believe they strive to improve yearly and I think this will be one of the biggest leaps in improvements in a yearly cycle of this game in a long time. I've been really impressed with the additions and improvements that we've heard about so far (and that's not even counting Franchise and RTTS improvements).

            So if you don't feel they are doing enough and you aren't expecting much, don't give them your money this year and enjoy another year of playing 16 and listening to Karros and Lyons.


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            Last edited by agentlaw13; 03-06-2017, 11:26 AM.

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            • Caulfield
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2011
              • 10986

              #306
              Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

              Originally posted by Steve_SDS
              Believe me, we're well aware of your issue with Matt.
              Sorry for the misunderstanding but I have zero issues with Matt , even if he hadnt recorded new lines. But I can empathise with those who do and it doesnt bother me when they voice their opinion, as long as its done respectfully. Maybe its time OS put a ban on talk of Vasgersian's emotion. Its certainly the last I have to say on the subject.
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              • JustSteve
                Pro
                • Feb 2004
                • 411

                #307
                Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                Originally posted by Caulfield
                Sorry for the misunderstanding but I have zero issues with Matt , even if he hadnt recorded new lines. But I can empathise with those who do and it doesnt bother me when they voice their opinion, as long as its done respectfully. Maybe its time OS put a ban on talk of Vasgersian's emotion. Its certainly the last I have to say on the subject.
                For the record, I wasn't talking specifically about you but OS in general. Sorry if it came off that way since I was responding to your post. We don't care that we don't have any competition currently. We still strive every year to make the best baseball game ever. We put our all into it. We appreciate that you guys are the hardcore fans and we all want to make the best game possible for you guys. Kirby along with Compton have only had a year and a half on The Show handling play by play and color commentary full time to make their mark on it. Give them some time. They have big plans for it but it's all not going to happen at once.

                ETA: And by all means, keep the feedback coming. You guys have some great ideas. You all are passionate fans. We like that we have a partnership with the community and that you guys continue to push us to make the best baseball game we can.
                Last edited by JustSteve; 03-06-2017, 02:54 AM.

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                • SilverBullet1929
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 1924

                  #308
                  Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                  Originally posted by Steve_SDS
                  Are you kidding me? That horse is a liquid now. You guys have beaten it so hard and for so long that there are no solids left. Believe me, we're well aware of your issue with Matt. The more you continue to pound on it isn't going to make a difference. We're doing our best to address it but even with thousands of new Vasgersian lines, this year was primarily about replacing 10 years of color commentary. No small feat. Our entire team is only about a quarter the size of 2Ks. There's only so much we can do in a year. We busted our butts this year to get in all that we could. I'm sure we set a single year record for time in the recording studio for the 15 years I've been working on this game.

                  But by all means, continue to beat this horse. You're only going to splatter yourself with horse matter.
                  When we beat that horse I bet the red of its blood is closer to the red of the Nationals alternate jersey than the way it looks in the game!

                  Am I right uniform guys!????!!!!?

                  (I'm joking! We need some humor around here!)

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                  • SilverBullet1929
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 1924

                    #309
                    Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                    Originally posted by TheBleedingRed21
                    That's not humor. That sounds like an underlying shot at them in that "joke".

                    Some of you guys need to show a little more respect and gratitude that the developers (especially multiple) even post and answer our questions. They're busy enough, but show what kind of company they are by coming here, I for one appreciate every post.
                    It was absolutely a joke. How can there be an "underlying" shot when the shot has been overexposed a thousand times over since Thursday? We were told to stop with the uniform stuff and the Matty V emotion stuff multiple times and through it all Steve was kind enough to respond to us and tell us that they are taking all of our feedback into account but he also hilariously told us we've beaten the horse into liquid form. So I facetiously took it to the uniform joke yet again but not to continue the discussion but to be silly and stupid about it. I absolutely cannot stress any further how I meant it in humor which is why I said so in the post and I attempted to make that as clear as possible. I'd delete my post to not offend someone like you who insists that every criticism is a hatred of the devs but I won't delete my post because deleting it would be admitting that it was a cheap shot and not a joke. With that said if a mod wants to delete my joke then go ahead that's up to them and I respect their decision on it. I hope several were able to read my post as it was intended to be read. This place sometimes cracks for the slightest things.
                    Last edited by SilverBullet1929; 03-06-2017, 07:04 AM.

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                    • Bullit
                      Bacon is Better
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 5004

                      #310
                      Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                      Jeez. I take a night off to have dinner and drinks with friends and you all loose your minds.

                      First, when I say on topic I mean on topic. Anything that is talked about in a Stream is up for discussion not just the listed topic of the Stream.

                      Second, when a Mod says stay on topic or you are getting banned, we are not playing.

                      Third, just because you make a snarky, rude, spamming or trolling post that is "on topic" does not excuse the fact that your post is inappropriate.This will still get you banned and multiple post will get you more than a week off.

                      Lastly, some you newer members may not know this, but this section of OS was the only one to not get the "Ban Hammer" speech from Millennium every year. We had the easiest time moderating this thread because everyone was carrying on intelligent, respectful and great discussions. We didn't always agree but we argueed in a matter that was a benefit to everbody.

                      So one last time. Enough is enough. This applies to all threads for streams going forward. Have good intelligent discussion on any topic covered in the stream. Disagree with each other. But be productive, respectful and good things will come. Continue on with this juvenile and ridiculous behavior and it is not going to end well for anybody.
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                      • jeffy777
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 3325

                        #311
                        Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                        Sounds like this is just the beginning of the commentary overhaul based on Steve's posts, so I'm excited to see how it evolves.

                        Adding individual player stories is a nice touch, but they do get old very quickly once you've heard them a few times, so be careful what you wish for there, fam. I actually prefer more generic commentary for that reason, and having the extra stat commentary for batter walk-ups is very huge, imo, and adds a ton to the overall presentation, not to mention the new statcast commentary.
                        Last edited by jeffy777; 03-06-2017, 08:09 AM.

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                        • agentlaw13
                          Pro
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 557

                          #312
                          Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                          Originally posted by jeffy777
                          and having the extra stat commentary for batter walk-ups is very huge, imo, and adds a ton to the overall presentation

                          Yeah definitely will make it more immersing. Loving the batter vs. pitcher career stats that pop up too. Great addition.




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                          • Archie56
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 1556

                            #313
                            Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                            Originally posted by ArchitectsMetalcore
                            Well finally, that settles the argument once and for all unlike all the other vague statements with numbers. Good to know that going into the game to not expect much this year!
                            I can honestly say that I've seen nothing but negativity from all your posts this year. To say that we shouldn't expect much this year is absolutely ridiculous. This dev team is the most active on any forum that I've ever seen listening to feedback and implementing our ideas into their game. Lemme say that again. OUR ideas into THEIR game. Who does that? They don't have to do that. They don't have to come in here everyday and take feedback about what we want to see. But they do, bc they know we are all passionate fans of baseball and they want to make the best baseball game they possibly can for us. So give them a break, they're already doing more for us than any other dev team ever would.

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                            • capa
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 5321

                              #314
                              Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                              Commentary is tough...you can't be all things to all people.

                              What gets old?
                              anecdotes
                              commentary tied to a certain type of hit
                              any type of joking back and forth between announcers


                              What does not get old?
                              comments on player performance during game
                              comments on player performance during season
                              comments on player career numbers
                              stats on how player has performed against pitcher in past
                              comments on current standings, races

                              You can see that the items that do not get old are pretty much all stats based...and that's just a few examples. The color guys get old, drag the commentary down to a certain degree. No knock on these guys as announcers, but it is the paradigm the game has to use.

                              Baseball is about stats. The game sounds fresh, and real, when stats are referenced throughout the broadcast. Personally, I don't really care if Player X spent his summers swinging a bat in a swimming pool (just an example). Stuff like that will be repeated over and over. I usually wind up shutting down the color guys and just listening to PbP during the game.

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                              • tnixen
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 3184

                                #315
                                Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                                I really hope we will see her in MLB The Show 18 as a Studio update reporter!

                                Even just her voice with fancy MLB Network Stat overlays would be fantastic!
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