MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[Gagnon39]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

Not really a trade here:

But what are you guys (that are using the OS roster) doing about the Japanese and Latin players in the free agent pool? I'd kind of like to sign a few but I sort of feel like it's cheating.


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[brandonholmes]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

Not really a trade here:

But what are you guys (that are using the OS roster) doing about the Japanese and Latin players in the free agent pool? I'd kind of like to sign a few but I sort of feel like it's cheating.


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I'm not gonna lie I'm probably gonna sign Otani. Maybe it's cheating but we can all day dream about getting a free ace right?

As for Robert the Jays technically can't sign him due to overage penalties so I'll be finding a place for him or waiting to see where he lands before I do anything.

[MrSerendipity]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

Not really a trade here:

But what are you guys (that are using the OS roster) doing about the Japanese and Latin players in the free agent pool? I'd kind of like to sign a few but I sort of feel like it's cheating.


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I'd kind of like to hear about this too. I might start assigning some of these guys to MLB teams. I'd love to nab Tetsuto Yamada in my Diamondbacks 'Chise. However, I don't know how realistic it is for the Diamondbacks to win the bidding war on Yamada. Maybe with all of the money I freed up in Pollock, Goldschmidt and Greinke I could outbid and sign him to an overpaid contract for realism?

This was a really good question that I'm glad you asked. You're right that it doesn't necessarily fit the theme of this thread but it's probably still the best place to ask.

[hampshirestags]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

Not really a trade here:

But what are you guys (that are using the OS roster) doing about the Japanese and Latin players in the free agent pool? I'd kind of like to sign a few but I sort of feel like it's cheating.


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I recommend to anyone doing a Marlins or Royals franchise to sign Otani. I will use a self imposed restriction to keep him in AAA for the first year and I think the correct rating is somewhere between 1.5 and 1.75 version of OSFM (I'm not here to debate the roster guys, they rock my socks off but...I think he's a little high in 1.75 and adjust accordingly). I don't think any baseball guy worth his salt would have an issue with that but would be available for any debate that says otherwise. For everyone else, it's a budget issue. You know he's going to be expensive but if you can afford it, I can make an argument that every team is going to be in play.

Otherwise, the new Cuban kid or the other Japanese pitcher (I hate I can't recall their names off the top of my head), self discretion applies. If you have a need and the available international bonus money...sign him. If you are playing with a club that you know either has exceeded the pool or is really close, that's where the cheese applies (IMO).

Not much different than signing J.Papelbon or P.Rodiriquez from the FA list. They haven't signed and are decently rated...if you have a need and the cash available, make your team better (just don't try to trade them).

[jdiaz891]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

I'm not gonna lie I'm probably gonna sign Otani. Maybe it's cheating but we can all day dream about getting a free ace right?

As for Robert the Jays technically can't sign him due to overage penalties so I'll be finding a place for him or waiting to see where he lands before I do anything.

Im playing at the white sox and i actually signed roberts.

[MrSerendipity]

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I just looked it up. Here is the 2017-2018 list for International Bonus Money: (Somebody please correct me if this link is wrong)

http://www.baseballamerica.com/international/2017-18-international-bonus-pools/#Pt8rbu0FQubezrUB.97

Going off of that link, I think I'm fair to sign Yamada to my Diamondbacks, given they're in the largest pool. I'll probably do as Hampshire recommended and send Otani to the Royals.

Do we have a list of all of the international guys in Free Agency? I'll likely work through that list after July 2nd (in-game) and just get them all moved onto teams with long-term contracts.

EDIT: If you guys would like, once we have a consensus on International Free Agents (I'm working off of 1.5 I believe), we can determine which IFA's should be eligible to sign with each team and I'll add it to the Realistic Trade Log. Also, if I'm not mistaken, Otani can only make $5 per season until age 25. Thus a three year contract is probably only fair. Yamada at age 23 would follow under the same rule.

[hampshirestags]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

I just looked it up. Here is the 2017-2018 list for International Bonus Money: (Somebody please correct me if this link is wrong)

http://www.baseballamerica.com/international/2017-18-international-bonus-pools/#Pt8rbu0FQubezrUB.97

Going off of that link, I think I'm fair to sign Yamada to my Diamondbacks, given they're in the largest pool. I'll probably do as Hampshire recommended and send Otani to the Royals.

Do we have a list of all of the international guys in Free Agency? I'll likely work through that list after July 2nd (in-game) and just get them all moved onto teams with long-term contracts.

EDIT: If you guys would like, once we have a consensus on International Free Agents (I'm working off of 1.5 I believe), we can determine which IFA's should be eligible to sign with each team and I'll add it to the Realistic Trade Log. Also, if I'm not mistaken, Otani can only make $5 per season until age 25. Thus a three year contract is probably only fair. Yamada at age 23 would follow under the same rule.

I think we're going to see a creative contract for Otani. He is limited due to his age with current rules but can see an opt out/mutual option/bonus type of deal for him. If you sign him in game, it's a rookie contract with renew/arb years attached. I just say use some discretion because that will not be reality. Don't sign him for 100k expecting that to continue through a normal rookie contract. Penalize yourself and take that extra money into account.

I didn't look at the link yet but I think there's only 6-7 teams that are currently in the penalty. Everyone else, for Otani especially, it's an open market.

[brandonholmes]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

I just looked it up. Here is the 2017-2018 list for International Bonus Money: (Somebody please correct me if this link is wrong)

http://www.baseballamerica.com/international/2017-18-international-bonus-pools/#Pt8rbu0FQubezrUB.97

Going off of that link, I think I'm fair to sign Yamada to my Diamondbacks, given they're in the largest pool. I'll probably do as Hampshire recommended and send Otani to the Royals.

Do we have a list of all of the international guys in Free Agency? I'll likely work through that list after July 2nd (in-game) and just get them all moved onto teams with long-term contracts.

EDIT: If you guys would like, once we have a consensus on International Free Agents (I'm working off of 1.5 I believe), we can determine which IFA's should be eligible to sign with each team and I'll add it to the Realistic Trade Log. Also, if I'm not mistaken, Otani can only make $5 per season until age 25. Thus a three year contract is probably only fair. Yamada at age 23 would follow under the same rule.

The Royals are under penalty per that article, so they wont be in on Otani.

[MrSerendipity]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

The Royals are under penalty per that article, so they wont be in on Otani.

Good point. Here is a list of teams that could sign Otani/Yamada:

$5.75 Million
Arizona Diamondbacks
Baltimore Orioles
Cleveland Indians
Colorado Rockies
Pittsburgh Pirates

$5.25 Million
Miami Marlins
Milwaukee Brewers
Minnesota Twins
Tampa Bay Rays

$4.75 Million
Boston Red Sox
Chicago White Sox
Detroit Tigers
Los Angeles Angels
New York Mets
New York Yankees
Philadelphia Phillies
Seattle Mariners
Texas Rangers
Toronto Blue Jays

[Bhicks42]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

Aaron Judge to the Reds. How can I make this happen??

[hampshirestags]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

The Royals are under penalty per that article, so they wont be in on Otani.

Ahh, but in the second year of a 2 yr penalty. Since he doesn't project to play in the US until 2018, you can still sign him to replace Ventura, stick him in A ball with no stats accumulated and then start him in the minors for '18.

I would also add all of the 4.75mm clubs in the mix as there are a lot of major market clubs on that list and he figures to sign a sponsor/merch deal with (your choice) and playing in a major market will tick his residuals up vs. playing in a smaller market. The 250k lost in the first year of the deal (why do I think the ceiling for him is 6mm?) will be more than made up in sponsorship money.

Again, I expect to see the most creative of contracts for him and am eager to see how it plays out as I can't even imagine a projection for him both gameplay and contract.

[hampshirestags]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

Todd Frazier - .355/.372/.717 17 hrs 31 rbis in 42 games.

I was asking about the yankees because im willing to part ways with Todd Frazier and the following

James shields 5-3 3.18 Era
Miguel Gonzalez 1-1 4.88 Era
David Robertson 18 saves 2.33 Era
Geovany Soto 11 hrs 17 Rbis .242 avg
Jose Abreu 11 hrs 37 rbis .299 Avg

Sorry, we have a few conversations going here... are you asking what you can get from NYY for Frazier and one of the guys listed? I'm slightly confused as aren't you the OP that said the Yanks are tanking in your franchise?

Aaron Judge to the Reds. How can I make this happen??

Embarrassing information on one of the Steinbrenner crew. Taking the Ellsbury contract. Judge breaks his femur. See where I'm headed? Nothing in realistic terms...especially for the Reds.

[jdiaz891]

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Sorry, we have a few conversations going here... are you asking what you can get from NYY for Frazier and one of the guys listed? I'm slightly confused as aren't you the OP that said the Yanks are tanking in your franchise?

Sorry for the confusion. I asked if the yankees would either sell or buy with a losing record like theyve done before. That list are players that im willing to deal with any team. Fair trade and realism if possible.

[brandonholmes]

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Sorry for the confusion. I asked if the yankees would either sell or buy with a losing record like theyve done before. That list are players that im willing to deal with any team. Fair trade and realism if possible.

They'd sell. They're under no illusion that they're a WS contender and they're building for the future and the 2018 FA class (Harper, Machado, etc.) If they aren't selling they're holding tight. If they are selling Betances should be first to market as he'd get them a haul if he's pitching well.

[jdiaz891]

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They'd sell. They're under no illusion that they're a WS contender and they're building for the future and the 2018 FA class (Harper, Machado, etc.) If they aren't selling they're holding tight. If they are selling Betances should be first to market as he'd get them a haul if he's pitching well.

Thanks . Yankees are the only team who are tanking that have pieces that are really worth moving so ill be making moves for the yankees starting now then.

EDIT: Im playing as the white sox what would it take to get dillon betances? I always cheated the cpu to have him on my team even when he was in the minors because we went to school together. I wanna keep it fair this time.