MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[kenp86]

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Darvish traded to LaD. Unknown return right now

[Councilmann_Jamm]

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Darvish traded to LaD. Unknown return right now

Willie Calhoun - 4 , AJ Alexy - 17, Braden Davis - 21

[Kahler77]

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Hey all. Just starting a Jays franchise so not making any trades for a few months. If Im out of it ill tear it down and start over if I am in the race however someone I am very interested in if the team isnt in the hunt is Starling Marte from Pittsburgh. Was wondering at this point what his trade value is like after PED suspension and whether the Jays even have the pieces to bring a player like that back?

[whbaseball51121]

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Hey all. Just starting a Jays franchise so not making any trades for a few months. If Im out of it ill tear it down and start over if I am in the race however someone I am very interested in if the team isnt in the hunt is Starling Marte from Pittsburgh. Was wondering at this point what his trade value is like after PED suspension and whether the Jays even have the pieces to bring a player like that back?

Probably starts with Stroman or Aaron Sanchez because Marte is affordable and controllable. I don't see him being traded unless it's for young, affordable, and good MLB pitching. Maybe like Osuna ++ at minimum?

[Mattchu12]

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Sonny Gray for Jorge Mateo , James Kaperlin, Dustin Fowler. Great return if Kaperlin and Fowler come back healthy

I'm personally way down on Mateo. He hasn't been that good in like a year and a half, I don't buy a month or so of good play. Fowler was very expendable. I am sad about Kap though, I wonder if there is an equivalent since he's out with Tommy John that I can use. Maybe healthy versions of Acevedo or Tate or Adams? Curious to hear the thoughts of the community.

[BennyXavier]

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HOLY WALL OF TEXT INCOMING

Okay, Yankees franchise not going according to plan. Nine games back in the middle of June, and currently planning a stockpile for potential dealing next year. I have a solid young core, but I'm going to need to get some assets so I have trade leverage over the next two years. Here are two trades I'm mulling right now. Not saying these will happen before July, but if I can't work back into the Wild Card race, I need to make a backup plan.

YANKEES GET:

OF Abraham Almonte (69 OVR, B pot, 27 y/o)
3B Yandy Diaz (73 OVR, B pot, 25 y/o)
SP Rob Kaminsky (62 OVR, B pot, 22 y/o)

CLEVELAND GETS:

SP Michael Pineda (83 OVR, contract year, 4.57 ERA)

Despite being tied for the AL Central lead, the Indians rotation is underperfoming, and the loss of Danny Salazar (shoulder) hasn't helped. He's not expected to return until after the All-Star break at the absolute earliest, and his rehab may stretch into August. Cleveland doesn't really have the pieces to fill that gap -- Cody Anderson (73 OVR) has been okay as a filler for Salazar, but Josh Tomlin's ERA is upper 4s and Trevor Bauer is in the mid 5s. Michael Pineda has been plagued by a few bad outings, but if he can get his numbers down by the deadline, a few teams may make serious offers. He's shown plenty of upside and, as we saw in real life, this is a pitcher's market.

YANKEES GET:

SP Ian Anderson (64 OVR, #20 prospect in baseball, 19 y/o)
SP Luis Gohara (62 OVR, B pot, 19 y/o)
SP Sean Newcomb (60 OVR, B pot, 23 y/o)

ATLANTA GETS:

3B Todd Frazier (82 OVR, contract year, .263/.311/.442, 13 HR)
CP Dellin Betances (89 OVR, two ARB years left, 4.56 ERA)
SP Dietrich Enns (61 OVR, C pot, 25 y/o)

Okay, hold on, there's a lot going on here. Yes, Atlanta is contending, they're leading the NL East, and they're going for broke. And why not? Everybody's hitting. Nick Markakis is back to being Good Nick Markakis, Freddie Freeman is an MVP candidate, and R.A. Dickey, of all people, is having his best season since the one that made everybody care about him. The team has glaring holes, yes, but that's where Uncle Benny comes in to save the day! We flip Frazier, the new addition, and Betances, who can't really help us now, and walk away with a top 20 prospect and two other high-ceiling arms. Betances had a rocky start to the year but has been blowing past guys in the last month and can close games for years to come, while Frazier is thirsty for gold and fills the biggest hole in the lineup. This strengthens Atlanta at two of their weakest points, and completely stacks our minor league pitching reserve. This deal would also force Gleyber Torres to be our starting third baseman, but hey! You gotta give to get. And he isn't too bad, either, so regular playing time at the major league level may not be the worst thing.

And one more question: what should I do with the .200 hitting Ellsbury? I don't want to bite his salary, but dealing him is basically impossible and he'd be better off the team than on it. Is this something I should decide in the offseason, or should I cut the cord now and open up a space for someone like Tyler Austin to get major league at-bats? (Clint Frazier is gone gone for the year, dislocated his ankle and his career is in jeopardy. So, yay.)

Let me know what you think about these deals. Muchas gracias, fellas.

[whbaseball51121]

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HOLY WALL OF TEXT INCOMING

Okay, Yankees franchise not going according to plan. Nine games back in the middle of June, and currently planning a stockpile for potential dealing next year. I have a solid young core, but I'm going to need to get some assets so I have trade leverage over the next two years. Here are two trades I'm mulling right now. Not saying these will happen before July, but if I can't work back into the Wild Card race, I need to make a backup plan.

YANKEES GET:

OF Abraham Almonte (69 OVR, B pot, 27 y/o)
3B Yandy Diaz (73 OVR, B pot, 25 y/o)
SP Rob Kaminsky (62 OVR, B pot, 22 y/o)

CLEVELAND GETS:

SP Michael Pineda (83 OVR, contract year, 4.57 ERA)

Despite being tied for the AL Central lead, the Indians rotation is underperfoming, and the loss of Danny Salazar (shoulder) hasn't helped. He's not expected to return until after the All-Star break at the absolute earliest, and his rehab may stretch into August. Cleveland doesn't really have the pieces to fill that gap -- Cody Anderson (73 OVR) has been okay as a filler for Salazar, but Josh Tomlin's ERA is upper 4s and Trevor Bauer is in the mid 5s. Michael Pineda has been plagued by a few bad outings, but if he can get his numbers down by the deadline, a few teams may make serious offers. He's shown plenty of upside and, as we saw in real life, this is a pitcher's market.

YANKEES GET:

SP Ian Anderson (64 OVR, #20 prospect in baseball, 19 y/o)
SP Luis Gohara (62 OVR, B pot, 19 y/o)
SP Sean Newcomb (60 OVR, B pot, 23 y/o)

ATLANTA GETS:

3B Todd Frazier (82 OVR, contract year, .263/.311/.442, 13 HR)
CP Dellin Betances (89 OVR, two ARB years left, 4.56 ERA)
SP Dietrich Enns (61 OVR, C pot, 25 y/o)

Okay, hold on, there's a lot going on here. Yes, Atlanta is contending, they're leading the NL East, and they're going for broke. And why not? Everybody's hitting. Nick Markakis is back to being Good Nick Markakis, Freddie Freeman is an MVP candidate, and R.A. Dickey, of all people, is having his best season since the one that made everybody care about him. The team has glaring holes, yes, but that's where Uncle Benny comes in to save the day! We flip Frazier, the new addition, and Betances, who can't really help us now, and walk away with a top 20 prospect and two other high-ceiling arms. Betances had a rocky start to the year but has been blowing past guys in the last month and can close games for years to come, while Frazier is thirsty for gold and fills the biggest hole in the lineup. This strengthens Atlanta at two of their weakest points, and completely stacks our minor league pitching reserve. This deal would also force Gleyber Torres to be our starting third baseman, but hey! You gotta give to get. And he isn't too bad, either, so regular playing time at the major league level may not be the worst thing.

And one more question: what should I do with the .200 hitting Ellsbury? I don't want to bite his salary, but dealing him is basically impossible and he'd be better off the team than on it. Is this something I should decide in the offseason, or should I cut the cord now and open up a space for someone like Tyler Austin to get major league at-bats? (Clint Frazier is gone gone for the year, dislocated his ankle and his career is in jeopardy. So, yay.)

Let me know what you think about these deals. Muchas gracias, fellas.

Personally I'd say both of those returns are too much. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a comparable real life deal for Pineda with that type of return. The Jaime Garcia deal seems a decent comp, which was like 2 C/C+. Maybe almonte and one of Diaz or Kaminsky would be realistic. Also I don't think the Braves would even consider that. Look at what the real life Yankees have done in terms of trying to contend without trading their elite guys. I'm sure the Braves would do the same, even if it meant missing out on some upgrades at the deadline this year since they want to continue being competitive going forward. I think the deal the Yanks got Frazier in is pretty comparable to this one, because while Betances is better than Robertson or Kahnle, I don't think he's significantly more valuable than both together, and while I do like Enns, he doesn't add significant value. I think Anderson is a pretty fair replacement for Rutherford, but I don't think they'd move either Gohara or Newcomb as well in that deal, let alone both. They'd probably just pursue one of the cheaper pen arms dealt this year, like Kintzler, Ramos, Reed, Watson, Hernandez etc than lose 3/5 of their future rotation. Maybe like Anderson, Lucas Sims and another further away prospect like Lucas Herbert?

[BennyXavier]

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Personally I'd say both of those returns are too much.

confession: i kind of knew that but i figured somebody would jump in and say "oh my jesus are you crazy" and that would spark discussion

Re: the Atlanta deal: Herbert isn't in my roster, sadly. I have 62 OVR, C pot IF Carlos Franco. He's 25 and I'm not sure if that's a fair replacement. Is he more or less valuable? I'm a bit thin in the lower level infield, and I want to have depth in case there's an injury.

Now Pineda: if I deal him for Almonte and Diaz, that takes a bit of the pressure off of me to immediately call up Torres if I make the deal with Atlanta. Yandy would be an upgrade over Frazier defensively, and if he's good enough with the bat, there's a chance I could use him a bait to facilitate a deal in the offseason. Would it be a terrible idea to put Yandy in pinstripes if the deal goes through?

[whbaseball51121]

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confession: i kind of knew that but i figured somebody would jump in and say "oh my jesus are you crazy" and that would spark discussion

Re: the Atlanta deal: Herbert isn't in my roster, sadly. I have 62 OVR, C pot IF Carlos Franco. He's 25 and I'm not sure if that's a fair replacement. Is he more or less valuable? I'm a bit thin in the lower level infield, and I want to have depth in case there's an injury.

Now Pineda: if I deal him for Almonte and Diaz, that takes a bit of the pressure off of me to immediately call up Torres if I make the deal with Atlanta. Yandy would be an upgrade over Frazier defensively, and if he's good enough with the bat, there's a chance I could use him a bait to facilitate a deal in the offseason. Would it be a terrible idea to put Yandy in pinstripes if the deal goes through?

I think Diaz and Almonte seems fair enough. Maybe Braxton Davidson instead of Herbert if he is in your roster?

[BigOscar]

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I've got Tommy hunter pitching out if his skin coming up to the deadline after being named and All Star, 2.13ERA with a 0.69 WHIP, 33/7 K's to BB ratio and he's really cheap (1.4m).

What's a comparable trade in real life? He's only a rental as he's in his last year, so I guess someone like Neshak is what I'm thinking, but cheaper et less funky

[kmoser]

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Got eliminated in the 1st round of the playoffs in the first year as the Astros (2017) and am now in the offseason. Beltran retired so I want to look into possibly getting an impact bat to bolster the middle of the lineup. My main target is JD Martinez, who is coming off a .270/33/98 season with the Tigers. Any ideas on how much he would cost?


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[UNDERTAKER1215]

MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

So since I've started falling out of contention, I'm looking at dealing off some short/er term pieces, I looked at the teams that are still in the race and what they need and came up with some deals. I know they will either be overpays or underpays but I didn't want to leave anything out and I'm willing to discuss other pieces besides my cornerstone players like Beni, Betts, Bogaerts, Sale, Pedroia.

#1)
Mariners Receive: Drew Pomeranz, Fernando Abad

Red Sox Receive: Christian Bergman/Chris Heston, Ryan Casteel, D.J. Peterson, Taylor Motter/Ben Gamel

Pomeranz is having a terrific season, posting a sub-2.00 ERA, good for top 3 in the AL. The Mariners are all-in for a championship this season, and Pomeranz would go a long way towards fulfilling that goal.

#2)
Cubs Receive: Fernando Abad

Red Sox Receive: Casey Kelly, David Rollins

I thought of this one as more of a personal get as I've been a fan of Kelly since he was in the Sox farm years ago.

#3)
Nationals Receive: Sandy Leon

Red Sox Receive: Enny Romero, Michael Taylor/Rafael Bautista

With this one, Leon would most likely step right into the starting role as both Wieters and Lobaton have struggled badly. Michael Taylor will soon be looking for playing time as Robles, Stevenson, and Baustista are all performing well and top prospects in their own right, plus Eaton isn't injured in my franchise. Leon is controllable for another two years.

#4)
Dodgers Receive: Mitch Moreland

Red Sox Receive: Ross Stripling, Edwin Rios

In my franchise, Cody Bellinger is out for the next 2 months, and A-Gon is batting a whopping .174 in 351 AB. Moreland is having a career season batting .285 with 23 HR in 263 AB, and ranks near the top of the leaderboards in doubles with 26.

#5)
Astros Receive: Hanley Ramirez, Fernando Abad

Red Sox Receive: Jon Singleton, Colin Moran, Andrew Aplin

This is a salary dump for the Red Sox, but they also get some potential pieces who either have yet to prove themselves or have fallen out of favor with the Astros. Hanley would provide some much needed offense for an Astros team that ranks 27th in AVG at .245 with their top 3 batters being Aoki (.293), Springer (.271), and Altuve (.270).

#6)
Cardinals Receive: Chris Young

Red Sox Receive: John Gant

#7)
Phillies Receive: Rick Porcello

Red Sox Receive: Jake Thompson, Edubray Ramos

The Phillies have switched gears for a championship this season after an unexpected start, and their rotation could really use a veteran leader at the top. Porcello hasn't been as dominant as his 2016 Cy Young self, but he isn't far off.

#8)
Mets Receive: Rick Porcello, Joe Kelly, Hanley Ramirez/Mitch Moreland, Chris Young

Red Sox Receive: Zack Wheeler, Rafael Montero, Gavin Cecchini, Curtis Granderson/Jay Bruce

This trade, as well as the following one are the blockbusters of this list. With this one, the Mets finally complete their rotation as Wheeler has struggled to the tune of a 5.90 ERA. A change of scenery/fresh start would be the case for both Wheeler and Montero. Kelly gives them another flame throwing righty, this time out of the pen. Hanley gives them the power they've been missing, and Young gives them an extra bat in the outfield where the leading hitter is Cespedes at .248 with 14 HR. I could swap Hanley with Moreland as Moreland has had a better offensive season, and isn't under contract past this season so NY wouldn't be on the hook for another big contract, or blocking Dom Smith. I'd take on either Bruce's or Granderson's contract to get a better return. Asdrubal Cabrera is under contract for $8.2M next season so he might be better for me to take in order to get that better return, where Grandy and Bruce are free agents after this season.

#9)
Giants Receive: Rick Porcello, Joe Kelly, Chris Young

Red Sox Receive: Kyle Crick, Josh Osich, Austin Slater

Porcello and Young both serve the same purpose they do in the Mets trade, except the Giants rotation problems more stem from the fact that Johnny Cueto is out for 6 months with a torn rotator cuff. Kelly would be the secret weapon for this trade as he is controllable for another season and has killer velocity and can work multiple innings. He would be a welcomed addition for the Giants as they're without Melancon for the next 2 months, and Will Smith has struggled to a 5.31 ERA. Slater could potentially take over in left field if I trade Bradley Jr. and move Beni over. Crick and Osich would help to fill the voids of the departing players.

Obviously some of these cancel each other out, but we can mix-and-match. Like I said previously, I know some of these are overpays, but I really want to know what I can get.

[DarionC14]

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Woundering what it would take to bring an average hitting cespedes from a struggling mets squad to Seattle any thoughts?

[Trent Booty]

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Okay, I'm in year two, so I'll give some background info. I'm mainly looking for these kinds of responses:
"_________ is worth two C+ /B- prospects" or
"______is worth an A and a C"

- Jaime Garcia won a world series with the Yankees in 2017 and was pretty good down the stretch. He signed a 3-year, 20.7 million dollar deal (6.9 for three years) with the Padres for 2018-2020. He pitched in 210 innings in 2017 for the Twins and Yankees, and has already pitched 128 innings and a 2.53 ERA a bit after the all star break. The White Sox are 3 GB from the 2nd wildcard and need a starter as James Shields needs to be moved to the bullpen ASAP. What does it take to get it done? He has been good over the last year and a half, and has 2 1/2 years of control. I was thinking a B and C but would like your thoughts.

- Padres would also like to finally ship off Brand Hand at the deadline in 2018. Jose Torres is ready to become the closer in San Diego and I'm wondering what Brand Hand could net the rebuilding Padres. Basically working with any team is an option.

- Phillies have Jorge Alfaro ready to start raking in the big leagues as he's dominating AAA, what could the Phillies get for Cameron Rupp? He's posting pretty good power numbers and at the very least could fit nicely into a platoon with a left handed catcher. The White Sox desperately need a catcher as their best catcher is Kevan Smith, who is on the DL until September at the earliest.

- After Addison Russel was killed in a boating accident during the offseason (he had career ending injury), the Cubs have mainly played Zobrist at SS. Javier Baez is out until September, and the Cubs don't really have middle infielders as Ian Happ is the full-time CF. Freddy Galvis has been an all star in both 2017 and 2018 due to his high play. What do the Cubs give for him?

- Yonder Alonso had his best year in 2017, as he was an all star and hit more than 10 HR for the first time in his career (18). Now halfway through 2018 and he has 8, which could give him another 15+ home run year. Meanwhile, The Dodgers have Adrian Gonzales out for the year and while 2017 ROY runner up Cody Bellinger has been good at 1B, getting another 1B would allow him to move back to LF. What would it take to get Alonso to the Dodgers?

Edit: What about Matt Kemp to the Angels? a year and a half left on his contract, can play LF in LA until Pujols retires and then Cron can play 1B and Kemp can be full time DH...

[Kahler77]

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Probably starts with Stroman or Aaron Sanchez because Marte is affordable and controllable. I don't see him being traded unless it's for young, affordable, and good MLB pitching. Maybe like Osuna ++ at minimum?

Does Biagini plus get me anywhere on that trade or not enough? Would Billy Hamlilton be cheaper if the reds are struggling or cost similarly?