MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[millertime98]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

I am in year two of an Atlanta rebuild. I have Teheran 27-89-B and he is 9-7 with a 2.20 era with a few starts left before the deadline. He last two starts are both CG shutouts (sim) with 27 K combined.
He is making $9 M this year and is under control for 2 more at just over $10 M per.

The Yankees are in first by 3 gm in a bad AL East. If I send him there the worst SP to be bumped from the rotation would be Loriano but he is their only LHSP.
On trade suggestions for prospects they offer
SP Chance Adams 23-72-B + 1B Austin 26-66-A (.205 for NYY) + RF Cox 18-49-A who is their first round pick and in A ball

The Red Sox are in third but just 4 gm back. They have all LHSP including one RP in there. So they could use a RHSP and a good, young one at that. They don't offer much on the trade suggestions (none when searching for prospects).

The Dodgers are 7 games up but have Maeda on the DL and only 1 RHSP, McCartney who is decent in just 20 ip.
They offer SP Buehler 21-70-B TOP 50 (30) +B+C
I was thinking him and Verdugo 21-68-B TOP 50 (39)
The trade value is slightly in my favor. While I don't like just loading up on TOP 50 guys, they are both B level players right now and prospects are always iffy.
SInce Teheran is dominating. under control for 2+ years, and Maeda is on the DL until September I think it is fair and realistic.

Which one of these would you do?
I want to strike while the iron is hot with Teheran and not wait until he is in the final year of his deal.
Thanks

UPDATE AND TWO QUESTIONS:

So since considering trading Teheran at the start of July, he has three starts. All three are CG shutouts with 32 combined strikeouts, 8 H, 2 BB and is 9-7 with a 2 era. He is considered to be playing above all star level and is 27-89-B with two more years of control. There are literally no SP that are on teams that are out of it who are worth trading for. The only pitcher who is close to Teheran's numbers is MIA's Chen and he is making $17-$19M for the next three seasons, and is five years older. Teheran is the number one pitcher available at the deadline and he is young, controlled for 2 more years, and dominating now.
Boston is likely out of the mix with no prospects to deal and fading in the standings. The LAD deal would include Beuhler OR Verdugo bot not both and the NYY deal is still up there. However, CLE has enter the mix....

Question 1: Is an "Elbow Sprain" a day to day, 10 day DL or 60 day DL injury?
CLE has the best record in the game and leads DET by 6 gm. (If only the Tigers were as good IRL as they are in The Show, but I digress).
Kluber (12-5, 3.22) just came up with an Elbow Sprain and the computer said, "looks like he will be out for a few days." Now, call me crazy but doesn't an elbow injury for a pitcher require at least a 10 day DL stint? I am using 30 team control and put him on the 10 day but am considering the 60 day.
Which leads to...

Question 2: What would Teheran net from CLE?
Jose De Leon is already on the DL for another month with a dislocated shoulder, Trevor Bauer has an era over 6 and Mike Clevenger is 5.90. Bauer would move to the pen and Clevinger sent back down.
Under trade suggestions for prospects they offer:
1. 1B Bobby Bradley 21-69-B + 2B Mathias 23-68-C
2. SP Aiken 21-66-B+RF Allen 25-69-C+1B Papi 25-63-C
3. SP McKenzie 20-68-B+SS Chang 22-69-B+1B Rodriguez 23-62-C
4. McKenzie+C De La Cruz 25-67-C+2B Krieger 23-69-B
5. Aiken+3B Jones 19-67-B

Sorry for the long post, replies appreciated.
Happy baseballing

[Skuxx24]

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Hi everyone

Currently looking at the Giants in my 30 team franchise and looking at moving some of there older pieces for prospects what kind of packages could these get realistically?

Brandon Crawford
Hunter Pence
Brandon Belt
Jeff Samardzija

Thanks for the help

[sc050610]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

Hi everyone

Currently looking at the Giants in my 30 team franchise and looking at moving some of there older pieces for prospects what kind of packages could these get realistically?

Brandon Crawford
Hunter Pence
Brandon Belt
Jeff Samardzija

Thanks for the help

Will need some stats to see how they are performing to help with giving value for the guys. But from a realistic standpoint, Samardzija isn't going anywhere unless you take a bad contract back on, Belt just resigned so very doubtful he would get moved.

[whbaseball51121]

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UPDATE AND TWO QUESTIONS:

So since considering trading Teheran at the start of July...

Question 2: What would Teheran net from CLE?
1. 1B Bobby Bradley 21-69-B + 2B Mathias 23-68-C
2. SP Aiken 21-66-B+RF Allen 25-69-C+1B Papi 25-63-C
3. SP McKenzie 20-68-B+SS Chang 22-69-B+1B Rodriguez 23-62-C
4. McKenzie+C De La Cruz 25-67-C+2B Krieger 23-69-B
5. Aiken+3B Jones 19-67-B

Sorry for the long post, replies appreciated.
Happy baseballing

I like McKenzie as the starting point as I think Teheran nets a top 50 plus another guy or two. I think either Chang or Bradley plus any of Rodriguez, Matthias, or De La Cruz is fair. As a Tribe fan, I'd love to upgrade over Bauer although that might be partially personal bias. The third guy doesn't matter as much, but Chang or Bradley is your big choice. Chang is an excellent defender at SS with big pop and solid discipline, but he may never hit above .250 plus you have Albies and Swanson. I love Bradley's bat and he's a good 1B, so if you plan on Freeman at 3B long term he may be your guy.

[HolyStroke3]

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Im currently at July 17th in my 30 team control franchise, I play as Oakland. I've been hovering just out of contention for most the season (currently 44-49, 5 GB after sweeping Cleveland coming out of the break).

I'm not looking to make any big moves this year (buying or selling), but I am looking to move Jesse Hahn

His numbers for the season are 9-6, 2.87 ERA, 1.19 WHIP, and his last six starts (since June 10th) he's 4-1, 50.2 IP, 11 ER, 35 K

With three more seasons of team control, what kind of value does he have?

[millertime98]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

I like McKenzie as the starting point as I think Teheran nets a top 50 plus another guy or two. I think either Chang or Bradley plus any of Rodriguez, Matthias, or De La Cruz is fair. As a Tribe fan, I'd love to upgrade over Bauer although that might be partially personal bias. The third guy doesn't matter as much, but Chang or Bradley is your big choice. Chang is an excellent defender at SS with big pop and solid discipline, but he may never hit above .250 plus you have Albies and Swanson. I love Bradley's bat and he's a good 1B, so if you plan on Freeman at 3B long term he may be your guy.

Thanks for the input. I figured a full rebuild would require trading Freeman or Teheran and Freeman makes too much. I've been searching for his replacement and I think Bradley is it.

[millertime98]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

Im currently at July 17th in my 30 team control franchise, I play as Oakland. I've been hovering just out of contention for most the season (currently 44-49, 5 GB after sweeping Cleveland coming out of the break).

I'm not looking to make any big moves this year (buying or selling), but I am looking to move Jesse Hahn

His numbers for the season are 9-6, 2.87 ERA, 1.19 WHIP, and his last six starts (since June 10th) he's 4-1, 50.2 IP, 11 ER, 35 K

With three more seasons of team control, what kind of value does he have?

Depending on what teams are in the hunt and looking for a third SP I'd say maybe 1 B from AA or two C's?
Probably two MLB contributors in the future but no potential (as of now) stars.

[UNDERTAKER1215]

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So since I've started falling out of contention, I'm looking at dealing off some short/er term pieces, I looked at the teams that are still in the race and what they need and came up with some deals. I know they will either be overpays or underpays but I didn't want to leave anything out and I'm willing to discuss other pieces besides my cornerstone players like Beni, Betts, Bogaerts, Sale, Pedroia.

#1)
Mariners Receive: Drew Pomeranz, Fernando Abad

Red Sox Receive: Christian Bergman/Chris Heston, Ryan Casteel, D.J. Peterson, Taylor Motter/Ben Gamel

Pomeranz is having a terrific season, posting a sub-2.00 ERA, good for 3rd in baseball. The Mariners are all-in for a championship this season, and Pomeranz would go a long way towards fulfilling that goal.

#2)
Cubs Receive: Fernando Abad

Red Sox Receive: Casey Kelly

I thought of this one as more of a personal get as I've been a fan of Kelly since he was in the Sox farm years ago.

#3)
Nationals Receive: Sandy Leon

Red Sox Receive: Enny Romero, Michael Taylor/Rafael Bautista

With this one, Leon would most likely step right into the starting role as both Wieters and Lobaton have struggled badly. Michael Taylor will soon be looking for playing time as Robles, Stevenson, and Baustista are all performing well and top prospects in their own right, plus Eaton isn't injured in my franchise. Leon is controllable for another two years.

#4)
Dodgers Receive: Mitch Moreland

Red Sox Receive: Ross Stripling, Kyle Farmer, Edwin Rios

In my franchise, Cody Bellinger is out for the next 2 months, and A-Gon is batting a whopping .174 in 351 AB. Moreland is having a career season batting .285 with 23 HR in 263 AB, and ranks 3rd in baseball with 26 doubles.

#5)
Astros Receive: Hanley Ramirez, Fernando Abad

Red Sox Receive: Jon Singleton, Colin Moran, Andrew Aplin

This is a salary dump for the Red Sox, but they also get some potential pieces who either have yet to prove themselves or have fallen out of favor with the Astros. Hanley would provide some much needed offense for an Astros team that ranks 27th in AVG at .245 with their top 3 batters being Aoki (.293), Springer (.271), and Altuve (.270).

#6)
Cardinals Receive: Chris Young

Red Sox Receive: John Gant

#7)
Phillies Receive: Rick Porcello

Red Sox Receive: Jake Thompson, Edubray Ramos

The Phillies, like the Mariners, are all-in for a championship this season, and their rotation could really use a veteran leader at the top. Porcello hasn't been as dominant as his 2016 Cy Young self, but he isn't far off.

#8)
Mets Receive: Rick Porcello, Joe Kelly, Hanley Ramirez/Mitch Moreland, Chris Young

Red Sox Receive: Zack Wheeler, Rafael Montero, Gavin Cecchini, Curtis Granderson/Jay Bruce

This trade, as well as the following one are the blockbusters of this list. With this one, the Mets finally complete their rotation as Wheeler has struggled to the tune of a 5.90 ERA. A change of scenery/fresh start would be the case for both Wheeler and Montero. Kelly gives them another flame throwing righty, this time out of the pen. Hanley gives them the power they've been missing, and Young gives them an extra bat in the outfield where the leading hitter is Cespedes at .248 with 14 HR. I'd take on either Bruce's or Granderson's contract to get a better return. Asdrubal Cabrera is under contract for $8.2M next season so he might be better for me to take in order to get that better return, where Grandy and Bruce are free agents after this season.

#9)
Giants Receive: Rick Porcello, Joe Kelly, Chris Young

Red Sox Receive: Kyle Crick, Josh Osich, Ryder Jones/Miguel Gomez, Austin Slater

Porcello and Young both serve the same purpose they do in the Mets trade, except the Giants rotation problems more stem from the fact that Johnny Cueto is out for 6 months with a torn rotator cuff. Kelly would be the secret weapon for this trade as he is controllable for another season and has killer velocity and can work multiple innings. He would be a welcomed addition for the Giants as they're without Melancon for the next 2 months, and Will Smith has struggled to a 5.31 ERA. Slater could potentially take over in left field if I trade Bradley Jr. and move Beni over. Crick and Osich would help to fill the voids of the departing players.

Obviously some of these cancel each other out, but we can mix-and-match. Like I said previously, I know some of these are overpays, but I really want to know what I can get.

Anyone have anything? Opinions?

[Danpagnepapi]

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Need some advice as well as an opinion on whether these trades would be realistic.

Marlins franchise 2018 currently 56-49 8 gb of the division and 8.5 out of the 2nd wild card spot. The Rays are 47-58 completely out of contention for the 2nd straight year so I was super interested in taking Archer (10-6 3.11 era- 3 years 22 mil left) and Longoria (.267/13hr/43rbi- 4 years 60 mil left). I have a huge need for production at 3B as i traded Prado at the deadline last year in a non-contending fire sale and while my starters are actually pretty good (Ryu 11-5 2.77era, Conley 8-4 2.95era, Chen 5-8 3.31era) who wouldn't want Archer amirite?

So by trial and error i figured out i could get the two of them in separate deals with my prospects.

Marlins receive
RHP Chris Archer (92 ovr, 29)
Rays receive
SS Brendan Rodgers (A, 69 ovr, 21) AA #1 prospect in Marlins system, #7 overall. (Acquired 2017 in trade with Rockies for Marcel Ozuna)
LHP Braxton Garrett (A, 68 ovr, 20) AA #2 Prospect in Marlins system, #30 overall.
SS Ross Glynn (B, 76 ovr, 19) MLB #3 Prospect in Marlins system or LF Anthony Santander (B, 76, 23) AAA #8 prospect in Marlins system.

Marlins receive
3B Evan Longoria (84 ovr, 32)
Rays receive
2B Andy Whitmore (A, 63 ovr, 22) #5 prospect in Marlins system
RHP Peter Lambert (B, 68 ovr, 21) #4 prospect in Marlins system
RF Sandro Fabian (B, 60 ovr, 20)
The game accepts both I just want to keep everything realistic. I have a **** ton of other B prospects so if i have to make another trade where i take a super ****ty Rays player and send them more prospects as part of the Archer deal i'll do that.

Here's my Farm's top 10 prospects according to my estimation.

1. SS Brendan Rodgers (A, 69, 21)AA
2. LHP Braxton Garrett (A, 68, 20) AA
3. SS Ross Glynn (B, 76, 19) MLB
4. RHP Peter Lambert (B, 68, 21) AAA
5. 2B Andy Whitmore (A, 63, 22) AAA
6. CF Joaquin Acosta (B, 67, 19) AAA
7. RF Isael Soto (B, 68, 21) AA
8. LF Anthony Santander (B, 76, 23) AAA
9. RHP Tyler Kolek (B, 65, 22) AA
10. RHP Edward Cabrera (B, 64, 19) A

So there are the trades, now i need to know if i should even pull the trigger or hold on to my assets and wait for next season.

[whbaseball51121]

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Need some advice as well as an opinion on whether these trades would be realistic.

Marlins franchise 2018 currently 56-49 8 gb of the division and 8.5 out of the 2nd wild card spot. The Rays are 47-58 completely out of contention for the 2nd straight year so I was super interested in taking Archer (10-6 3.11 era- 3 years 22 mil left) and Longoria (.267/13hr/43rbi- 4 years 60 mil left). I have a huge need for production at 3B as i traded Prado at the deadline last year in a non-contending fire sale and while my starters are actually pretty good (Ryu 11-5 2.77era, Conley 8-4 2.95era, Chen 5-8 3.31era) who wouldn't want Archer amirite?

So by trial and error i figured out i could get the two of them in separate deals with my prospects.

Marlins receive
RHP Chris Archer (92 ovr, 29)
Rays receive
SS Brendan Rodgers (A, 69 ovr, 21) AA #1 prospect in Marlins system, #7 overall. (Acquired 2017 in trade with Rockies for Marcel Ozuna)
LHP Braxton Garrett (A, 68 ovr, 20) AA #2 Prospect in Marlins system, #30 overall.
SS Ross Glynn (B, 76 ovr, 19) MLB #3 Prospect in Marlins system or LF Anthony Santander (B, 76, 23) AAA #8 prospect in Marlins system.

Marlins receive
3B Evan Longoria (84 ovr, 32)
Rays receive
2B Andy Whitmore (A, 63 ovr, 22) #5 prospect in Marlins system
RHP Peter Lambert (B, 68 ovr, 21) #4 prospect in Marlins system
RF Sandro Fabian (B, 60 ovr, 20)
The game accepts both I just want to keep everything realistic. I have a **** ton of other B prospects so if i have to make another trade where i take a super ****ty Rays player and send them more prospects as part of the Archer deal i'll do that.

Here's my Farm's top 10 prospects according to my estimation.

1. SS Brendan Rodgers (A, 69, 21)AA
2. LHP Braxton Garrett (A, 68, 20) AA
3. SS Ross Glynn (B, 76, 19) MLB
4. RHP Peter Lambert (B, 68, 21) AAA
5. 2B Andy Whitmore (A, 63, 22) AAA
6. CF Joaquin Acosta (B, 67, 19) AAA
7. RF Isael Soto (B, 68, 21) AA
8. LF Anthony Santander (B, 76, 23) AAA
9. RHP Tyler Kolek (B, 65, 22) AA
10. RHP Edward Cabrera (B, 64, 19) A

So there are the trades, now i need to know if i should even pull the trigger or hold on to my assets and wait for next season.

So I like those two deals together. I think looking at it like Archer for Rodgers, Garrett, and two other B's is fair for Archer while the A and B are fair if even a bit much for Longo. I'd say that looks pretty good.

[Danpagnepapi]

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So I like those two deals together. I think looking at it like Archer for Rodgers, Garrett, and two other B's is fair for Archer while the A and B are fair if even a bit much for Longo. I'd say that looks pretty good.

Thanks for the reply man much appreciated.
So before i pull the trigger on the deal, being that i'm 8 games out of the division and 8.5 out of the last WC spot at the deadline, do you think it's worth trying to make the push? I figured both guys are tied down for multiple years so it's not like they're rentals for the season.

[whbaseball51121]

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Thanks for the reply man much appreciated.
So before i pull the trigger on the deal, being that i'm 8 games out of the division and 8.5 out of the last WC spot at the deadline, do you think it's worth trying to make the push? I figured both guys are tied down for multiple years so it's not like they're rentals for the season.

No problem. I think it depends on if you think the rest of the roster can keep playing like a true contender or if you think you're due for regression. If you think you've got a chance to keep winning, I say go for it since they're both controllable and big upgrades.

[Danpagnepapi]

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No problem. I think it depends on if you think the rest of the roster can keep playing like a true contender or if you think you're due for regression. If you think you've got a chance to keep winning, I say go for it since they're both controllable and big upgrades.

Word i feel like even if we don't make it this year with the pieces we have still tied down for next year we can make a huge push for sure. One last thing (Sorry to keep peppering you with questions man hahaha) I want to solidify the back of my pen by adding another closer. Either Britton (87 ovr, 29/34 sv's 4.73 era) from Baltimore or Herrera (84 ovr, 18/24 sv's 4.45 era) from KC. Both in the last year of their deal, kind of struggling and both teams way out of the race. I feel like Britton would be pretty expensive but for either one do you think 3 of my top B potentials would suffice?

[whbaseball51121]

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Word i feel like even if we don't make it this year with the pieces we have still tied down for next year we can make a huge push for sure. One last thing (Sorry to keep peppering you with questions man hahaha) I want to solidify the back of my pen by adding another closer. Either Britton (87 ovr, 29/34 sv's 4.73 era) from Baltimore or Herrera (84 ovr, 18/24 sv's 4.45 era) from KC. Both in the last year of their deal, kind of struggling and both teams way out of the race. I feel like Britton would be pretty expensive but for either one do you think 3 of my top B potentials would suffice?

Herrera I would say maybe a B and a C+ or a pair of B-. Britton probably more costly, maybe a B and 2 B-? The rental reliever market was seriously down this year, so I'd look at like what Addison Reed brought in. In other words, yeah, I think your B range prospects could get either or if you really wanted to go for it probably both.

[whbaseball51121]

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Anyone have anything? Opinions?

No way Dodgers would make that Moreland trade man. Look at what Lucas Duda and even a better player in JD Martinez got. Duda got traded for an eh relief pitching prospect, no way Dodgers move an excellent now reliever, plus two top 30 prospects (Rios #15, Farmer #26 on MLB), especially since Farmer is a major league ready C and Rios could play 1B for them next year. I don't think you'd get Rios or Stripling for Moreland, much less both and Farmer. They'd just go get Duda or JD for a more reasonable price. Also don't see why Phillies would change course and go all in that quickly. They're trying to compete in the long run, not just now.