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  • Meskuzi301
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    • Apr 2017
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    #436
    Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

    The Rays are asking way too much for Archer, super expensive

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    • GamecocksLaw17
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      • Jun 2015
      • 1503

      #437
      Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by BigOscar
      Weren't they talking about him in the same sort of terms as that proposed Astro's/Quintana trade? Martes, Paulin and Fisher I think was the offer (number 19, 52 and 80 on the top 100 prospect list)
      Yeah, except Archer has 5 cheap years and is arguably as good as Quintana. So it would take that as a baseline plus a little more for the extra cheap year. I think the offer I was initially thinking was Albies (11th), Allard (41st), Anderson (54th) & Pache (Just outside top 100). I used the Fangraphs Top-100 for those rankings.

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      • BigOscar
        MVP
        • May 2016
        • 2971

        #438
        Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
        Yeah, except Archer has 5 cheap years and is arguably as good as Quintana. So it would take that as a baseline plus a little more for the extra cheap year. I think the offer I was initially thinking was Albies (11th), Allard (41st), Anderson (54th) & Pache (Just outside top 100). I used the Fangraphs Top-100 for those rankings.
        That sounds about right, I think it's definitely looking at a top 20, a top 50, a top 100 and then maybe another decent prospect on top. Cheap, controlled pitching has crazy high value to teams.

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        • The Left Shark
          Rookie
          • Mar 2015
          • 461

          #439
          Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by Meskuzi301
          The Rays are asking way too much for Archer, super expensive
          Cheap for the remainder of this year and 4 more. Plus, he had a down year last year. I actually think the Rays will be solid this year so trade talk for Archer is sort of moot.

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          • NEOPARADIGM
            Banned
            • Jul 2009
            • 2788

            #440
            Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

            Hi dudes. Cool thread. Never much wandered these parts bc I've always kept my roster 1:1 with the real club (Tigers). But for this year I want Cameron Maybin back, and I want Rajai Davis back.

            What's legit? Thanks.

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            • bryanm1982
              MVP
              • Nov 2016
              • 3783

              #441
              Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

              I am playing the Cubs franchise and I'm torn between making deals that I like or keeping it more real. I really like Chris Archer and the Rays are willing to move him for Eloy Martinez, and two medium prospects. But when I trade him he's very unhappy cause of the rotation spot cause he would be the 3rd or 4th pitcher on the Cubs. And I'm worried that I will have too powerful of a team and win the division very easily and become bored. Does anyone worry about that?
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              • The Left Shark
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                • Mar 2015
                • 461

                #442
                Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by bryanm1982
                I am playing the Cubs franchise and I'm torn between making deals that I like or keeping it more real. I really like Chris Archer and the Rays are willing to move him for Eloy Martinez, and two medium prospects. But when I trade him he's very unhappy cause of the rotation spot cause he would be the 3rd or 4th pitcher on the Cubs. And I'm worried that I will have too powerful of a team and win the division very easily and become bored. Does anyone worry about that?
                Well you could do the deal, let Arrieta walk for more money (unless you signed him to an extension already, I don't know the specifics) and then let Lackey walk/retire after the season. Then your first 3 for next season would be Lester, Archer, Hendricks. And then I guess a combo of Montgomery, Butler, pitching prospects who names I forget, or another trade acquisition with your young bats in the last 2 spots.

                Honestly though, since you can only trade up to 3 players at a time, it would have to be Jimenez, Happ and then a medium prospect. You'd be getting 5 years of a cheap front of the rotation arm so it's worth it.
                Last edited by The Left Shark; 04-06-2017, 10:29 AM.

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                • bryanm1982
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                  • Nov 2016
                  • 3783

                  #443
                  Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                  That is a good idea. No I haven't extended Arrieta yet. I'm only in 10 games in the season (I play every game). I'm assuming we can't extend contracts during the season still right?
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                  • The Left Shark
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                    • Mar 2015
                    • 461

                    #444
                    Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by bryanm1982
                    That is a good idea. No I haven't extended Arrieta yet. I'm only in 10 games in the season (I play every game). I'm assuming we can't extend contracts during the season still right?
                    That's right you can't. That way you also try to repeat with a rotation of Lester, Arrieta, Archer, Lackey and Hendricks (wow) and you can make it a bit more challenging and letting 2 of those guys walk in the off-season.

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                    • Tdoyle2021
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                      • Apr 2017
                      • 36

                      #445
                      Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by The Left Shark
                      Well you could do the deal, let Arrieta walk for more money (unless you signed him to an extension already, I don't know the specifics) and then let Lackey walk/retire after the season. Then your first 3 for next season would be Lester, Archer, Hendricks. And then I guess a combo of Montgomery, Butler, pitching prospects who names I forget, or another trade acquisition with your young bats in the last 2 spots.

                      Honestly though, since you can only trade up to 3 players at a time, it would have to be Jimenez, Happ and then a medium prospect. You'd be getting 5 years of a cheap front of the rotation arm so it's worth it.


                      Cease and Underwood would be their two top pitching prospects currently, if you don't count Eddie Butler who they just acquired. I think they would be more willing to move away from young position players than include those guys in any deals, just due to the impending loss of Arrieta and Lackey in the near future.

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                      • GamecocksLaw17
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                        • Jun 2015
                        • 1503

                        #446
                        Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by The Left Shark
                        Well you could do the deal, let Arrieta walk for more money (unless you signed him to an extension already, I don't know the specifics) and then let Lackey walk/retire after the season. Then your first 3 for next season would be Lester, Archer, Hendricks. And then I guess a combo of Montgomery, Butler, pitching prospects who names I forget, or another trade acquisition with your young bats in the last 2 spots.

                        Honestly though, since you can only trade up to 3 players at a time, it would have to be Jimenez, Happ and then a medium prospect. You'd be getting 5 years of a cheap front of the rotation arm so it's worth it.
                        You can trade more than 3 guys for Archer. You just do a second trade for the worst prospect on the Cubs and add the additional players you would be sending for Archer

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                        • The Left Shark
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                          • Mar 2015
                          • 461

                          #447
                          Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                          You can trade more than 3 guys for Archer. You just do a second trade for the worst prospect on the Cubs and add the additional players you would be sending for Archer
                          Yeah that's what I've done as well. Trade some upper 20's year old RP with D potential and rated low for more prospects.

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                          • bryanm1982
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                            • Nov 2016
                            • 3783

                            #448
                            Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                            Thank you guys. Brett Anderson is my 5th starter and he would probably be moved to the bullpen to be a long man. The Rays would do Martinez, Happ, and a prospect or even Brett Anderson.
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                            • Tdoyle2021
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                              #449
                              Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by bryanm1982
                              Thank you guys. Brett Anderson is my 5th starter and he would probably be moved to the bullpen to be a long man. The Rays would do Martinez, Happ, and a prospect or even Brett Anderson.
                              Were you referring to Eloy Jimenez or Eddy Julio Martinez?

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                              • bryanm1982
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                                • Nov 2016
                                • 3783

                                #450
                                Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                                I did the trade search where you put the players you want to trade and gives you all the team's offers. Toronto was willing to give up Roberto Osuna and Aaron Sanchez for that same offer.
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