MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[kenp86]

Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

Wonder what it would take to get an actual CF to the Tigers. Speed is a plus. Hamilton comes to mind but open to other possibilities with the Tigers poor farm.

I'll have to ride with the bullpen as is.


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Hamilton was discussed as two high C prospects or more likely a B prospect

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Hamilton was discussed as two high C prospects or more likely a B prospect

And having the weak farm the Tigers have that probably means including last year's 1st round pick Matt Manning.

[Coldarmy13]

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And having the weak farm the Tigers have that probably means including last year's 1st round pick Matt Manning.

Tigers have some solid B prospects, Manning would be one of the only prospects I'd prefer to keep.


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[GamecocksLaw17]

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Tigers have some solid B prospects, Manning would be one of the only prospects I'd prefer to keep.


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With a farm like Detroit has you'll have to lower your sights on a speed guy if you hope to keep Manning or have any prospect off limits. Rajai Davis is fast. Terrence Gore is fast. There are others, but the Reds would want someone with a real future to give up their Gold Glove level CF who breaks the 20-80 scale with his speed

[kenp86]

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What about roman Quinn? Got good speed. What is his cost?

[bestbrother]

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OK im still fiddling around with a PIT-LAA deal:

I take Josh Harrison to play 2nd.

PIT get Espinosa's expiring, Brandon Marsh and Andrew Heaney?

[Coldarmy13]

MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

With a farm like Detroit has you'll have to lower your sights on a speed guy if you hope to keep Manning or have any prospect off limits. Rajai Davis is fast. Terrence Gore is fast. There are others, but the Reds would want someone with a real future to give up their Gold Glove level CF who breaks the 20-80 scale with his speed

Okay would Manning do it? I'm iffy but would like to have it as an option. I'd like to bat Kinsler second.


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[brandonholmes]

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Puig is hard. He's got so much potential. If he wants to keep SRF. He could use Alford as his headliner

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Agreed. I'm still good with giving up a B pitcher + to take on that potential, just didn't want to be ripping myself off. I always feel like I have a good idea but it's hard to know 30 MLB teams, especially those teams out west being in the eastern time zone.

Thanks guys!

[bestbrother]

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How do I do the math that you guys are in order to work out if im getting burned on this deal:

(its 2 transactions due to game limitations)

PIT send -
McCutcheon
Josh Harrison
Kang??

LAA send -
Alex Meyer
Brandon Marsh
Espinosa
Heaney
Calhoun
Simmons

My thoughts are:
PIT have shopped these 2 this winter and as such a deal is there to be made.
PIT get 2 of my top prospects in Meyer and Marsh, both rated B.
Espinosa gives them more pop than Harrison, but is a minor downgrade, yet comes in at $4m cheaper and his deal expires this year.
Calhoun is a serviceable outfielder and is tied in for 3 more years.
Simmons is a big upgrade at SS
Heaney B rated SP but coming off Tommy John.

LAA get a legit superstar to backup Trout in 'Cutch, plus take on his deal and the gamble of free agency in 2018
Harrison offers a more consistent bat and fielding option at 2nd
Kang has ?? as im not sure on the move to add him as a 3rd wheel in the deal.

Genuinely interested on all thoughts from those more experienced, as im ready to pull the trigger

[MrSerendipity]

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I had to restart my franchise as I had forgotten to use 30 Team Control and had also forgotten to remove players like Price (Boston) and etc. from the A Rosters. They never got called up so players who were only going to miss a few weeks, ended up being out almost all season.

My Rangers are performing much better than my last outing and I'm leading the AL West by 1.5 games over the Astros. Like my last franchise, I've dealt Profar, Guzman and Smoral to the Royals for Hosmer. Also like my last franchise, I have interest in acquiring Phil Hughes. His stats are as follows (Mid-June):
W/L: 6-5 | ERA 3.48 | 82.2 IP | 1.21 WHIP | WAR 1.1

In my last franchise, we agreed that a straight up swap of Hughes for Perez was fair as the Twins received a young, cheaper, struggling but still full of potential starter. I also took on the entirety of Hughes contract. However, my situation has changed. Perez is pitching lights out and currently holds the 3rd best ERA in the AL (16th Overall because the NL is insane). Thus, I don't have any interest in moving him. My weak spot in the rotation is Tyson Ross.
W/L: 1-6 | 6.68 ERA | 63.1 IP | 1.61 WHIP | WAR .3

I know a straight up swap isn't fair. The Twins are 12 games back in the Central behind the leading White Sox (WTF?) and should be willing to move Hughes. If I take on Hughes whole contract, is a swap of Ross, Jairo Beras and Chi Chi Gonzalez fair?

[The Left Shark]

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How do I do the math that you guys are in order to work out if im getting burned on this deal:

(its 2 transactions due to game limitations)

PIT send -
McCutcheon
Josh Harrison
Kang??

LAA send -
Alex Meyer
Brandon Marsh
Espinosa
Heaney
Calhoun
Simmons

My thoughts are:
PIT have shopped these 2 this winter and as such a deal is there to be made.
PIT get 2 of my top prospects in Meyer and Marsh, both rated B.
Espinosa gives them more pop than Harrison, but is a minor downgrade, yet comes in at $4m cheaper and his deal expires this year.
Calhoun is a serviceable outfielder and is tied in for 3 more years.
Simmons is a big upgrade at SS
Heaney B rated SP but coming off Tommy John.

LAA get a legit superstar to backup Trout in 'Cutch, plus take on his deal and the gamble of free agency in 2018
Harrison offers a more consistent bat and fielding option at 2nd
Kang has ?? as im not sure on the move to add him as a 3rd wheel in the deal.

Genuinely interested on all thoughts from those more experienced, as im ready to pull the trigger

I think you are underrating Kole Calhoun by a lot.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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How do I do the math that you guys are in order to work out if im getting burned on this deal:

(its 2 transactions due to game limitations)

PIT send -
McCutcheon
Josh Harrison
Kang??

LAA send -
Alex Meyer
Brandon Marsh
Espinosa
Heaney
Calhoun
Simmons

My thoughts are:
PIT have shopped these 2 this winter and as such a deal is there to be made.
PIT get 2 of my top prospects in Meyer and Marsh, both rated B.
Espinosa gives them more pop than Harrison, but is a minor downgrade, yet comes in at $4m cheaper and his deal expires this year.
Calhoun is a serviceable outfielder and is tied in for 3 more years.
Simmons is a big upgrade at SS
Heaney B rated SP but coming off Tommy John.

LAA get a legit superstar to backup Trout in 'Cutch, plus take on his deal and the gamble of free agency in 2018
Harrison offers a more consistent bat and fielding option at 2nd
Kang has ?? as im not sure on the move to add him as a 3rd wheel in the deal.

Genuinely interested on all thoughts from those more experienced, as im ready to pull the trigger

When is the last time you saw a trade with one side giving up 3 MLB guys and the other team giving 4 MLB guys and prospects. This trade just has way too many moving parts. But if you are deadset on running the numbers we can, but the Angels are giving up way more at first glance

[bestbrother]

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When is the last time you saw a trade with one side giving up 3 MLB guys and the other team giving 4 MLB guys and prospects. This trade just has way too many moving parts. But if you are deadset on running the numbers we can, but the Angels are giving up way more at first glance

Yes please, I mean the main deal is to get Cutch, but thought Harrison is a worthwhile addition whilst im in Pittsburgh shopping

[hampshirestags]

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How do I do the math that you guys are in order to work out if im getting burned on this deal:

(its 2 transactions due to game limitations)

PIT send -
McCutcheon
Josh Harrison
Kang??

LAA send -
Alex Meyer
Brandon Marsh
Espinosa
Heaney
Calhoun
Simmons

My thoughts are:
PIT have shopped these 2 this winter and as such a deal is there to be made.
PIT get 2 of my top prospects in Meyer and Marsh, both rated B.
Espinosa gives them more pop than Harrison, but is a minor downgrade, yet comes in at $4m cheaper and his deal expires this year.
Calhoun is a serviceable outfielder and is tied in for 3 more years.
Simmons is a big upgrade at SS
Heaney B rated SP but coming off Tommy John.

LAA get a legit superstar to backup Trout in 'Cutch, plus take on his deal and the gamble of free agency in 2018
Harrison offers a more consistent bat and fielding option at 2nd
Kang has ?? as im not sure on the move to add him as a 3rd wheel in the deal.

Genuinely interested on all thoughts from those more experienced, as im ready to pull the trigger

You don't need math or formulas for this one. Take the names off the back of the jersey and tell me how this makes you better (as the Angels). To help, go to Fangraphs website and look at the far right hand column of this first chart. It will tell you the WAR (wins above replacement) for each MLB player. Later we can get fancy and talk about fWAR (adjusted) but never mind that for now.

Take the prospects out (does OSFM really have Meyer and Marsh at 80+ POT?) and focus on the numbers you have available. Proven everyday players. You might be surprised what you find you have in Calhoun and Simmons.

I'll reinforce my earlier statement, the Angels don't need a rebuild, they just need a few pieces and they will be competitive. I think I'm going to have to change course and run an Angels franchise and prove it to myself.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Yes please, I mean the main deal is to get Cutch, but thought Harrison is a worthwhile addition whilst im in Pittsburgh shopping

PIT send -
McCutcheon $34.5 million in surplus
Josh Harrison $6 million in surplus
Kang?? $51 million in surplus assuming little to no production in 2017

LAA send -
Alex Meyer $15 million in surplus
Brandon Marsh $20 million in surplus
Espinosa $9.9 million in surplus
Heaney $15 million in surplus
Calhoun $90.5 million in surplus
Simmons $79 million in surplus


So the Angels are getting robbed blind.