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  • Bard
    YouTube: NHBard
    • Oct 2010
    • 7803

    #76
    Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by bobbyb9827
    Once OFSM drops, was looking to bring some young pitching to the back end of the Yankees rotation. Willing to part with Mateo Rutherford and Williams to bring something back.

    Any ideas?
    Young pitching as in Sonny Gray, Julio Teheran, etc...? Yankees have a very good farm system, and could pull something off if you're willing.
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    • MrSerendipity
      MVP
      • Jun 2013
      • 1397

      #77
      Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by Bard
      Gamecocks brings up a very good point here. Rangers likely do not have what it takes, but 2 years ago totally.

      Marcell Ozuna has been in rumors, and wouldn't cost nearly as much.
      That was my concern, thanks for the honest input. Maybe I can build something after dealing Darvish. I still need to find a good package for him.
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      • Bhicks42
        Rookie
        • Jun 2015
        • 31

        #78
        Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

        Rebuilding the Reds
        Where do I start?? Pitching is a must!!

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        • Bard
          YouTube: NHBard
          • Oct 2010
          • 7803

          #79
          Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by MrSerendipity
          That was my concern, thanks for the honest input. Maybe I can build something after dealing Darvish. I still need to find a good package for him.
          That will depend on the races, who is in it, who needs SP, and what his stats are! Will gladly help...Unless you want to deal him before the season start?
          Originally posted by Bhicks42
          Rebuilding the Reds
          Where do I start?? Pitching is a must!!
          Sheesh. Don't have much to play with. Cozart could get a low C, Hamilton could get 2 C's or a low B, Votto is stuck to you...Honestly it will depend on how players start the season for you.
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          • Bhicks42
            Rookie
            • Jun 2015
            • 31

            #80
            Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by Bard
            That will depend on the races, who is in it, who needs SP, and what his stats are! Will gladly help...Unless you want to deal him before the season start?

            Sheesh. Don't have much to play with. Cozart could get a low C, Hamilton could get 2 C's or a low B, Votto is stuck to you...Honestly it will depend on how players start the season for you.
            What about Duvall?? Mesarocco?

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            • MrSerendipity
              MVP
              • Jun 2013
              • 1397

              #81
              Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by Bard
              That will depend on the races, who is in it, who needs SP, and what his stats are! Will gladly help...Unless you want to deal him before the season start

              I'll wait until my franchise is underway (when OSFM releases) and then I'll try to move him at the deadline. But I'll definitely take you up on the offer then!
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              • Bard
                YouTube: NHBard
                • Oct 2010
                • 7803

                #82
                Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by Bhicks42
                What about Duvall?? Mesarocco?
                Duvall needs to prove more than a one year wonder, and he wasn't truly that great anyway outside of dingers.

                Mesaroco hasnt been healthy since 2014.

                Duvall could net 2 C's right now, and Devin about nothing.
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                • brandonholmes
                  Rookie
                  • May 2011
                  • 105

                  #83
                  Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Bard
                  Super interesting idea! Dodgers would initially ask for Stroman, of course, but Sean Reid-Foley + Leon/Biagini + Catcher spec might work out the deal. Hard to gauge value without stats, but as of now I think that is Puig's worth. Two B specs + MLB ready SP/RP
                  Now that's something to chew on for Puig. Would still have a bit of trouble trading Reid-Foley but depending on the development of Zeuch/Harris in our system I'd probably pull the trigger on:

                  Blue Jays:

                  Puig

                  Dodgers:

                  Reid-Foley
                  Leon/Other RP/P 'spect
                  Pentecost/McGuire

                  Shift Joey Bats to LF/1B, Puig to RF. Think that's a much more workable outfield. Thanks.

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                  • bobbyb9827
                    Rookie
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 96

                    #84
                    Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by Bard
                    Young pitching as in Sonny Gray, Julio Teheran, etc...? Yankees have a very good farm system, and could pull something off if you're willing.
                    Was looking at Mike Foltynewicz, as an option, what would it take for him?
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                    • Bard
                      YouTube: NHBard
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 7803

                      #85
                      Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by bobbyb9827
                      Was looking at Mike Foltynewicz, as an option, what would it take for him?
                      25 year old who hasn't been necessarily good in the pros, but does have upside to be a big arm. Interesting thought, but with how heavy the Braves are at pitching they would probably want someone of similar potential at an offensive position need.
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                      • GamecocksLaw17
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 1503

                        #86
                        Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by bobbyb9827
                        Was looking at Mike Foltynewicz, as an option, what would it take for him?
                        He still has 5 years of service time and seems like he is starting to turn things around this spring. I think they would want something pretty substatial in return. I'm sure they'd ask for Sanchez which wouldn't happen. Then Frazier, but we all know that isn't realistic either.

                        So realistically I think you would have to offer something like Judge or Mateo plus Andujar or Kaprielian plus Fowler. Something like $45 million in surplus value.

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                        • Bard
                          YouTube: NHBard
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 7803

                          #87
                          Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                          He still has 5 years of service time and seems like he is starting to turn things around this spring. I think they would want something pretty substatial in return. I'm sure they'd ask for Sanchez which wouldn't happen. Then Frazier, but we all know that isn't realistic either.

                          So realistically I think you would have to offer something like Judge or Mateo plus Andujar or Kaprielian plus Fowler. Something like $45 million in surplus value.
                          Judge for Folty sound like a reasonable deal? I was thinking something along the line of that in my post above, as I think they are similar in value.
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                          • GamecocksLaw17
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2015
                            • 1503

                            #88
                            Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Bard
                            Judge for Folty sound like a reasonable deal? I was thinking something along the line of that in my post above, as I think they are similar in value.
                            Seems about right. A 55FV hitter is worth about $38 million so that feels about right. Maybe throw in a lower level guy if you feel the need but I think a Folty for Judge framework could definitely be done

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                            • Bhicks42
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2015
                              • 31

                              #89
                              Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by Bard
                              Duvall needs to prove more than a one year wonder, and he wasn't truly that great anyway outside of dingers.

                              Mesaroco hasnt been healthy since 2014.

                              Duvall could net 2 C's right now, and Devin about nothing.
                              Duvall outplayed Bryce Harper last year and found a position in the OF. I can't imagine there isn't interest from someone.

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                              • GamecocksLaw17
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2015
                                • 1503

                                #90
                                Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by Bhicks42
                                Duvall outplayed Bryce Harper last year and found a position in the OF. I can't imagine there isn't interest from someone.
                                Duvall was great at hitting dongs, but he didn't outplay Bryce. Harper had a 3.5 WAR and Duvall had a 2.8 WAR. Also, Duvall needs to work on his OBP since he didn't even break .300

                                Duvall has some value, but low OBP sluggers aren't as valuable now as they used to be. Look at Chris Carter's free agency. Duvall does have some nice defensive metrics, but I don't think you'd get anything more than a low B prospect in return for Duvall

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