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  • bcruise
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    • Mar 2004
    • 23274

    #556
    Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

    Post-patch:

    These are the last pitches a CPU starter threw in two different games. Guess which one is QC and which is a full-pitch game.





    (this one was a homerun, in case you were wondering. a solo shot that chased him from the game)
    Last edited by bcruise; 04-25-2017, 09:42 AM.

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    • KnightTemplar
      MVP
      • Feb 2017
      • 3282

      #557
      Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

      Originally posted by bcruise
      Post-patch:

      These are the last pitches a CPU starter threw in two different games. Guess which one is QC and which is a full-pitch game.



      I'm guessing the bottom one the pitcher was pulled 5-0 because the Cubs had scored 0 runs.

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      • Glenn33
        MVP
        • Jul 2002
        • 2455

        #558
        Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

        I'm getting a little depresed. I may have to go back to full counts. That sucks.

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        • djep
          MVP
          • Feb 2003
          • 1128

          #559
          Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

          Originally posted by tessl
          That hasn't been my experience on full counts/manage mode.
          That has been exactly my experience on full counts, no QC whatsoever - pitchers getting pulled way too early and the same long relievers throwing 3+ innings in back to back to back games sometimes.

          It is a game breaker for me.

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          • h8_messy
            Rookie
            • Mar 2017
            • 26

            #560
            Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

            I start the game with CPU Manager Hook at 2. After they go to the bullpen I change it to 7. I turn it back to 5 when im advancing the calender. Seems to work pretty good imo.

            Last game I had Salazar into the 9th inning pitching a shutout with a low pitch count. He walked a guy then I managged to get a lead and break up the shutout with 2 outs in the 9th. They still kept him in to finish the game.

            Using this, Ive had roughed up starters get pulled early followed by multiple relievers. I've also had starters throw complete games.
            Last edited by h8_messy; 04-25-2017, 11:39 AM.

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            • BZito75
              MVP
              • Apr 2003
              • 1472

              #561
              Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

              interesting fangraphs article i found... not saying anything except its a way to delve into the mind of a now stat driven game outside of performance

              http://www.fangraphs.com/community/p...ting-pitchers/
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              • ktd1976
                MVP
                • Mar 2006
                • 1940

                #562
                Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                Originally posted by KnightTemplar
                I'm guessing the bottom one the pitcher was pulled 5-0 because the Cubs had scored 0 runs.
                I thought the CPU pitchers were being pulled early because THEIR team hadn't scored a run yet, not the team they are pitching against.....

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                • BillPeener
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2017
                  • 136

                  #563
                  Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                  Originally posted by BZito75
                  interesting fangraphs article i found... not saying anything except its a way to delve into the mind of a now stat driven game outside of performance

                  http://www.fangraphs.com/community/p...ting-pitchers/
                  Cool article, but what's important is this: are the developers intentionally adjusting the AI to reflect progressive, analytical strategies, or is their intention to replicate traditional baseball (starters pulled after ~100 pitches)?

                  Knowing their intention would go a long way towards deducing the problem.

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                  • k9cops79
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 3

                    #564
                    Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                    Well just another confirmation that nothing has been fixed....I wasn't getting no hit. CPU pulled the SP in the top of the 8th no outs with 84 pitches (stamina was still in late end of green). Playing in QC which by the sounds of it may be majority of the issue.

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                    • miamikb2001
                      Pro
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 795

                      #565
                      Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                      Originally posted by k9cops79
                      Well just another confirmation that nothing has been fixed....I wasn't getting no hit. CPU pulled the SP in the top of the 8th no outs with 84 pitches (stamina was still in late end of green). Playing in QC which by the sounds of it may be majority of the issue.


                      In fairness QC has been improved but certaintly not enough.Before patch i don't think i saw a starter go more then 4+


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                      • bcruise
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                        • Mar 2004
                        • 23274

                        #566
                        Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                        Originally posted by KnightTemplar
                        I'm guessing the bottom one the pitcher was pulled 5-0 because the Cubs had scored 0 runs.
                        The bottom one is QC, yes. That, unfortunately, has been pretty representative of what I've seen in QC post patch.

                        Even with the HR I feel like it's an early pull at that point. Stamina was still good too.

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                        • NDAlum
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                          • Jun 2010
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                          #567
                          Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                          I don't think I can play FC...

                          QC was a feature I begged for. I just can't go back


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                          • miamikb2001
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                            • Feb 2008
                            • 795

                            #568
                            Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                            Originally posted by NDAlum
                            I don't think I can play FC...

                            QC was a feature I begged for. I just can't go back


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                            I felt that way too,but i'm kinda getting back into Full.It's unfortunate QC doesn't work all that well this year because of Starting pitcher issue It's better after patch but not enough for me to play it.


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                            • KnightTemplar
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                              • Feb 2017
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                              #569
                              Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                              Originally posted by NDAlum
                              I don't think I can play FC...

                              QC was a feature I begged for. I just can't go back


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                              Exactly. I think people lobbied for this for years. Worked great last year and I still say this isn't the problem this year.

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                              • CaseIH
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                                • Sep 2013
                                • 3945

                                #570
                                Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                                Originally posted by NDAlum
                                I don't think I can play FC...

                                QC was a feature I begged for. I just can't go back


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                                You know it wasnt something I thought much about, but after using QC the 1st yr they added it in, I cant do without it now.

                                For me anyway, it wasnt to shorten the length of games for me, it was more about helping me be able to draw a realistic amount of walks. Using QC allows me to get Votto somewhere realistically close to his OBP, and my team isnt always dead last in walks and OBP. I think its help me hit a little better as well.
                                Thats why if this isnt fixed, Im going to be very disappointed. Typically the devs of MLBTS are good about fixing stuff like this, so Im a but surprised this still seems to be a issue after the patch, but Im holding out hope people just havent spent enough time playing yet since the patch, as I havent actually played since the patch.
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