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  • nomo17k
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    • Feb 2011
    • 5735

    #586
    Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

    Originally posted by bestbrother
    How do i know what the CPU are playing? ie what dictates if they are playing as QC or not?

    I mean I select QC before my games each time, but I dont go into the CPU games to decide what they are doing. So does the CPU see that I play a game in QC and then decides that the CPU games that day are using QC?
    Oh I see... if you aren't actually playing the game out (going into gameplay), then that's entirely by the "sim engine" and QC or non-QC doesn't matter. It is confusing because yes, they are effectively CPU vs. CPU in a sense that the game is simulating everything without any user input, but in a forum like this CPU vs. CPU tends to mean when you actually put the gameplay on CPU control for both sides.
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    • CleveCluby
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      • Feb 2003
      • 808

      #587
      Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

      Stamina. durability, energy, confidence, These things just don't seem to go together. For example, SP 88 stamina.. 73 durability. 5 complete innings pitched. 68 pitches. Top of 6th pitches to one batter. Now the screen comes up saying Pitcher is getting tired, 74 pitches, energy bar is half full, confidence bar is 3/4 full. This does not make sense.

      How can his energy bar be half full and yet he is tired and has nearly a full confidence. I have noticed this game after game, SP being pulled when energy bar is half full or more. Some how the energy bar,confidence bar innings pitched and stamina aren't matching up.

      Does anyone else notice this. I am using QC but I don't think that it makes a difference as i have also noticed it in the FC games I have tested..
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      • thedudedominick
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        • Mar 2009
        • 3794

        #588
        Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

        Cubs just pulled their starter after 3 IP, 3 H, 3 BB, 1 ER. I think he was around 50-60 pitches thrown. I should also say I'm using QC.

        I'll have to look after the game to see if maybe he was a reliever that was starting.
        Last edited by thedudedominick; 04-29-2017, 02:18 PM.
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        • forme95
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          • Nov 2013
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          #589
          Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

          AND just as I feared....... now its the opposite and to many complete games. I wish they never would have messed with it. It was playing just fine.
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          • miamikb2001
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            • Feb 2008
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            #590
            Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

            Originally posted by forme95
            AND just as I feared....... now its the opposite and to many complete games. I wish they never would have messed with it. It was playing just fine.


            In the sim games or one you played?I haven't seen one yet against me


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            • forme95
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              • Nov 2013
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              #591
              Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

              Originally posted by miamikb2001
              In the sim games or one you played?I haven't seen one yet against me


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              It's in the sim (other games played that day) games. I still have hook at 2 so I am going to move it back to 5. I didn't realize it was still that low

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              Really wish sports games played to ratings!
              Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
              CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
              MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
              Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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              • BigOscar
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                • May 2016
                • 2971

                #592
                Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                Royals pull their starter after just 4 innings having given up 2 runs. Quick Counts. It's just a complete mess on QC's, don't know how they messed it up so badly yet didn't notice before releasing the game. No one can possibly have tested QC's as you can't play 5 games without someone getting pulled ridiculously early

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                • miamikb2001
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                  • Feb 2008
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                  #593
                  Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                  Originally posted by BigOscar
                  Royals pull their starter after just 4 innings having given up 2 runs. Quick Counts. It's just a complete mess on QC's, don't know how they messed it up so badly yet didn't notice before releasing the game. No one can possibly have tested QC's as you can't play 5 games without someone getting pulled ridiculously early


                  Sadly i would agree QC is a mess and likely wasn't tested much because it is apparent every game I will say full games are very well done.


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                  • CaseIH
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                    • Sep 2013
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                    #594
                    Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                    Originally posted by BigOscar
                    Royals pull their starter after just 4 innings having given up 2 runs. Quick Counts. It's just a complete mess on QC's, don't know how they messed it up so badly yet didn't notice before releasing the game. No one can possibly have tested QC's as you can't play 5 games without someone getting pulled ridiculously early

                    Sadly it does seem to still be a issue unfortunately. I agree, I dont know how something like this get past testing, unless it wasnt tested at all, which is what seems the most likeliest. There cant be anyway QC were tested, for this to have ever been a issue, let alone still a problem after supossedly being fixed in patch. Its not like SCEA to screw up this bad, so while Im disappointed, I have faith they will get it fixed.
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                    • sportdan30
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                      • Feb 2003
                      • 2010

                      #595
                      Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                      I can't believe there is no fix for this. So frustrating. Games just take too long without quick counts. I don't have time to spend an hour plus for a nine inning game. This has to be patched soon.


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                      • KnightTemplar
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                        • Feb 2017
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                        #596
                        Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                        Originally posted by sportdan30
                        I can't believe there is no fix for this. So frustrating. Games just take too long without quick counts. I don't have time to spend an hour plus for a nine inning game. This has to be patched soon.


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                        If you don't play with injuries on look at the stamina and durability of the SPs. Just take Jhoulys Chacin for the Padres, for example. I'm surprised he makes it four innings. I play 30 team control, do manual injuries (send players down when they are put on the DL in real life and bring up their replacement). Seems to have helped by raising stamina and durability.

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                        • Brandwin
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                          • Jul 2002
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                          #597
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                          I didn't notice the issue as much before the patch, so maybe I just failed to see it, but no with Quick Counts, it's ridiculous.

                          Here are my last three games -

                          Game 1 vs Astros
                          Bottom of 6th
                          Tied at 2
                          Two outs with runner on 3rd
                          Lance McCullers pulled
                          5.2 IP 74 pitches 6 hits 2 runs 2 walks and 4 strike outs


                          Game 2 vs Mariners
                          Top of 7th pitcher did not come back out
                          Mariners up 8-1
                          Heston pulled after 61 pitches, 6 IP, 1 run, 5 hits, 6 strike outs, 1 walk

                          Game 3 vs Padres
                          Top of 4th
                          Rangers up 2-1
                          Runners on corner with 2 outs
                          Trevor Cahill 58 pitches, 3.1 IP, 5 hits, 2Ks, 0 walks


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                          • enright6
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                            • Mar 2009
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                            #598
                            Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                            i made another thread about it but it also seems the cpu is pulling closers too early as well. multiple games the cpu has been up on me in the 9th, gets the first 2 outs...i hit a single with next batter, and they pull the closer and put in a new pitcher.

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                            • bestbrother
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                              • Sep 2015
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                              #599
                              Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                              Its not all the time for me anymore on QC... it happens and it could be related to how pitchers are rated in game idk...

                              Moore (SF)
                              6IP - came out to pitch in the 7th with the Giants 12-0 up. Would give up 3 hits and a walk to load the bases with 0 outs, got pulled.

                              Samardzija (SF)
                              7IP - pulled after that with the game tied at 1. Gave up 4H with 12K

                              Cueto (SF)
                              Pulled after the 5th for a pinch hitter, he gave up a grand slam in the 5th to give us a 4-1 lead.

                              Velasquez (PHI)
                              4IP, was 2-0 ahead, 9Ks just 2H... weird one.

                              Hellickson (PHI)
                              4IP, was 1-0 down, 6K, 3H, 1ER.... weird one.

                              Eickhoff (PHI)
                              4IP, was 7-1 ahead, gave up 5BB... weird one.

                              Thats my last 2 series on QC in Franchise. It would be hard to argue any flaws in the SF series... maybe they could have stretched Samardzija further, but thats picky.

                              PHI however was a mess, none of their starters lasted more than 4IP, which baffles me.

                              The innings pitched in terms of league numbers look fine to me though

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                              • miamikb2001
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                                • Feb 2008
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                                #600
                                Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

                                Originally posted by bestbrother
                                Its not all the time for me anymore on QC... it happens and it could be related to how pitchers are rated in game idk...



                                Moore (SF)

                                6IP - came out to pitch in the 7th with the Giants 12-0 up. Would give up 3 hits and a walk to load the bases with 0 outs, got pulled.



                                Samardzija (SF)

                                7IP - pulled after that with the game tied at 1. Gave up 4H with 12K



                                Cueto (SF)

                                Pulled after the 5th for a pinch hitter, he gave up a grand slam in the 5th to give us a 4-1 lead.



                                Velasquez (PHI)

                                4IP, was 2-0 ahead, 9Ks just 2H... weird one.



                                Hellickson (PHI)

                                4IP, was 1-0 down, 6K, 3H, 1ER.... weird one.



                                Eickhoff (PHI)

                                4IP, was 7-1 ahead, gave up 5BB... weird one.



                                Thats my last 2 series on QC in Franchise. It would be hard to argue any flaws in the SF series... maybe they could have stretched Samardzija further, but thats picky.



                                PHI however was a mess, none of their starters lasted more than 4IP, which baffles me.



                                The innings pitched in terms of league numbers look fine to me though


                                What were your manager hook and starter stamina sliders if i can ask?


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