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  • Juve
    Pro
    • Dec 2008
    • 649

    #61
    Re: Prospect Progression

    Originally posted by 335TDC
    I have none of those in mind because to me that's so far down the priority list of Franchise it doesn't even register. Injuries happen: give me a timeframe and perhaps the option to play him hurt for increased risk of injury (like 2K). (Coincidentally, I think the Durability rating is garbage -- give players 2 separate ones, Conditioning and Injury Risk.)

    I think you're spraying indiscriminately at this point. If you really want to help SDS make Franchise better for next year, focus on the true core elements of any multi-year mode: good prospects with realistic ages, attribute distributions and development curves; year-round scouting and possibly a more robust scouting system; in-season contract extensions; and more financial things to fiddle with. If SDS added even two of those next year I'd be over the moon. BASICS, BillPeener -- RPG stuff later.

    All respect.
    Couldn't agree more

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    • SmooveMove
      MVP
      • Mar 2013
      • 1349

      #62
      Re: Prospect Progression

      Originally posted by 335TDC
      Well, players' progress/regress on the 2nd of every month, so I just do a roster check on that date when sim testing. And I'd call potential progression this year progress based with some elements of randomness. I say this because Diaz, the young closer, shoots up to an A potential every time if he has a very low ERA and high SO, and I'm talking about first or second month. But I've seen the down arrow on Kris Bryant and some others where it really doesn't mean much because it's from a 96 to a 95 or something similar.

      But again, agreed: dev clarification would be nice. And those emails -- I miss them too. Why the hell did they get rid of them?! They were a nice touch of immersion.

      The emails are there. I just got them a few days ago.
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      • TheWarmWind
        MVP
        • Apr 2015
        • 2620

        #63
        Re: Prospect Progression

        editable progression/regression curves IS at the top of my wishlist.

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        • R9NALD9
          MVP
          • Nov 2008
          • 1268

          #64
          Re: Prospect Progression

          How often do you assess your minor league player performances? Every 2 weeks, every month etc.

          Obviously you can't do it too often, but don't want to risk waiting too long causing struggling players to lose potential and progression etc.
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          • R9NALD9
            MVP
            • Nov 2008
            • 1268

            #65
            Re: Prospect Progression

            Originally posted by TheWarmWind
            editable progression/regression curves IS at the top of my wishlist.
            Agreed. Pro Evolution Soccer had this back in the day on PS2 of all system.

            You could choose between these options:
            • Standard and lasting (standard progression, slow regression)
            • Early and lasting (quick progression, slow regression) - Early 20's stars
            • Late and lasting (slow progression, slow regression) - late bloomers and players that remain productive deep into their 30's
            • Standard and normal (standard progression, normal regression)
            • Early and normal (quick progression, normal regression) - players that peak early but seem to drop off sooner than player that hit their peak later or regressed slower...think Lincecum
            • Late and normal (slow progression, normal regression)


            It is very simple and could probably be done better but this worked perfectly and really set players apart.
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            • TheWarmWind
              MVP
              • Apr 2015
              • 2620

              #66
              Re: Prospect Progression

              Originally posted by R9NALD9
              Agreed. Pro Evolution Soccer had this back in the day on PS2 of all system.

              You could choose between these options:
              • Standard and lasting (standard progression, slow regression)
              • Early and lasting (quick progression, slow regression) - Early 20's stars
              • Late and lasting (slow progression, slow regression) - late bloomers and players that remain productive deep into their 30's
              • Standard and normal (standard progression, normal regression)
              • Early and normal (quick progression, normal regression) - players that peak early but seem to drop off sooner than player that hit their peak later or regressed slower...think Lincecum
              • Late and normal (slow progression, normal regression)


              It is very simple and could probably be done better but this worked perfectly and really set players apart.
              That all sounds wonderful. Got to add the busts and the up and downs though. I like the accuracy system the NHL series uses too, so you can have high risk/high reward players, and it also allows for low rated prospects to shine. We should stop talking about this. Don't want to turn this into another wishlist thread.
              Last edited by TheWarmWind; 04-18-2017, 10:26 AM.

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              • Brandwin
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jul 2002
                • 30621

                #67
                Re: Prospect Progression

                Do you all look at overalls or just go with if a player is playing well or not when considering to move them up or down?

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                • Cdub28
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 48

                  #68
                  Re: Prospect Progression

                  Originally posted by Brandwin
                  Do you all look at overalls or just go with if a player is playing well or not when considering to move them up or down?
                  Personally, I take both into account. I want to see some decent attributes or hopefully some potential, but I won't move any players up that are struggling unless I just have to. I just brought up a guy due to injuries on my dbacks franchise that looked to me like a career minor league player, but his overall potential just bumped up to a be and he is 27. So maybe he will have a shot now.

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                  • 335TDC
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2016
                    • 352

                    #69
                    Re: Prospect Progression

                    Originally posted by R9NALD9
                    How often do you assess your minor league player performances? Every 2 weeks, every month etc.

                    Obviously you can't do it too often, but don't want to risk waiting too long causing struggling players to lose potential and progression etc.
                    Updates happen the 2nd of every month. Check then.

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                    • UofM Alumni
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 10

                      #70
                      Re: Prospect Progression

                      How does everyone feel about Gleyber Torres. Is he going to be as good as people are predicting.

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                      • 335TDC
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2016
                        • 352

                        #71
                        Re: Prospect Progression

                        Originally posted by sccavs64
                        Wait what? Their attributes only progress/regress on the 2nd day of the month and no other days? And is this for potential increases/decreases also or just for attributes?
                        Not STRICTLY speaking, but on the 2nd of each month you should get roster messages with updates on who's hot and who's not in your farm system. That's when MOST changes occur and, I think, the only time when potential changes occur.

                        I've had rare cases when high-A potential prospects go up a little bit during the month, but these monthly check-ins are when most changes occur.

                        MLB players seem to progress more fluidly, but only in terms of regression. Hell, Thor and Trea always seem to start regressing immediately, no matter how they're performing. Probably because one's a very low A and the other a very low B (what the hell?!).

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                        • Cdub28
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 48

                          #72
                          Re: Prospect Progression

                          Do we know whether or not players can gain or lose quirks?

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                          • Mega0862
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2017
                            • 60

                            #73
                            Re: Prospect Progression

                            Originally posted by UofM Alumni
                            How does everyone feel about Gleyber Torres. Is he going to be as good as people are predicting.


                            Umm how can I say this... Yes.


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                            • Jr.
                              Playgirl Coverboy
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 19171

                              #74
                              Re: Prospect Progression

                              Originally posted by Cdub28
                              Do we know whether or not players can gain or lose quirks?
                              I believe they can lose/gain the ones related to attributes, but not the situational ones.
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                              • flyer1985
                                Pro
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 722

                                #75
                                Re: Prospect Progression

                                So what is the general rule of thumb for the different minor league levels? I'm running a sim-only franchise and I'm struggling to get over the playoff hump. Even with talented players and A-potential players, nothing is working.
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