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  • Skyboxer
    Donny Baseball!
    • Jul 2002
    • 20302

    #571
    Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.04 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

    Originally posted by parky_17
    Lol all you had to do was look to posts above where I said when you get good timing AND the pci on the ball, it shouldn't result in a swing and miss

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    I did see that after the fact. I didn't reply to that. I replied to what you said after that "If pci path was same as ball you should make contact"

    That is what I was going off of. So again zero reason to get smart about it. A simple shout out to say what was said before would have been better don't you think?
    Either way. Moving on. I agree if all are good there should be contact.
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    • parky_17
      Rookie
      • Mar 2013
      • 395

      #572
      Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.04 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

      Originally posted by Skyboxer
      I did see that after the fact. I didn't reply to that. I replied to what you said after that "If pci path was same as ball you should make contact"

      That is what I was going off of. So again zero reason to get smart about it. A simple shout out to say what was said before would have been better don't you think?
      Either way. Moving on. I agree if all are good there should be contact.
      Well how about not jumping in to try and make a point that has literally just been made

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      • nomo17k
        Permanently Banned
        • Feb 2011
        • 5735

        #573
        Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.04 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

        Originally posted by bredfan
        I wouldn't mind every other year releases. The problem I see is I just don't think this game sells well enough to support it.

        Whether they release a game or not they're still paying the licensing costs. Taking years off probably just isn't financially feasible.
        Yeah, so that's why I think so long as sticking to yearly cycle of the professional counterpart remains the bottom line for computer sports gaming, it would probably be difficult to find sustainable way to support the development itself, and demanding people who hang around in a forum like this one would always get some level of disappointment in seeing a product that takes a long time to get out of mediocrity, because the maintenance cost inherent in yearly cycle is too high. I still think The Show's bottom line is superb compared to other games I have played (that's why I still play it pretty much every day) but I sure have been quite disappointed by the lack of major progress in the directions where I think an authentic sports simulation game should be heading.

        And the issue of revenue stream is one reason why, even though I'm personally not invested in playing a mode like the current Diamond Dynasty, I would not blame the developers to make a microtransactional mode appealing to more people who would invest in them. So long as what the developers gain from it is somehow useful to subsidize the (other) efforts that pushes the frontier of sport simulation game (which is what I am interested in), I don't really care much where that subsidy comes from.

        Not in the game industry, I do not know how things work there so my speculation wouldn't be particularly useful, but I wonder if some ways other than a yearly packaged product can be successfully done for a game that goes through continual improvements (nonetheless might not optimally done in a short cycle like several months).

        There have been new, inventive ways of software development processes in the past couple decades or so, to the extent that what the gaming industry is following appears very outdated from that view point (at least to someone like myself, who often work in smaller software shops). But that's from someone who has not been on their side, so all this is just out of my curiosity as an outsider though.
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        • kiddlex
          Pro
          • Apr 2003
          • 628

          #574
          Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.04 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

          Originally posted by Armor and Sword
          I don't know......I am so confused man.


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          • The Chef
            Moderator
            • Sep 2003
            • 13684

            #575
            Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.04 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

            Originally posted by parky_17
            Well how about not jumping in to try and make a point that has literally just been made

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            That's more then enough, he acknowledged he missed a post and he was only trying to help so just let it go. There's no need to keep going with the snide remarks, completely unnecessary.
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            • Christian9
              Pro
              • Dec 2002
              • 526

              #576
              Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.04 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

              Originally posted by nomo17k
              Yeah, so that's why I think so long as sticking to yearly cycle of the professional counterpart remains the bottom line for computer sports gaming, it would probably be difficult to find sustainable way to support the development itself, and demanding people who hang around in a forum like this one would always get some level of disappointment in seeing a product that takes a long time to get out of mediocrity, because the maintenance cost inherent in yearly cycle is too high. I still think The Show's bottom line is superb compared to other games I have played (that's why I still play it pretty much every day) but I sure have been quite disappointed by the lack of major progress in the directions where I think an authentic sports simulation game should be heading.



              And the issue of revenue stream is one reason why, even though I'm personally not invested in playing a mode like the current Diamond Dynasty, I would not blame the developers to make a microtransactional mode appealing to more people who would invest in them. So long as what the developers gain from it is somehow useful to subsidize the (other) efforts that pushes the frontier of sport simulation game (which is what I am interested in), I don't really care much where that subsidy comes from.



              Not in the game industry, I do not know how things work there so my speculation wouldn't be particularly useful, but I wonder if some ways other than a yearly packaged product can be successfully done for a game that goes through continual improvements (nonetheless might not optimally done in a short cycle like several months).



              There have been new, inventive ways of software development processes in the past couple decades or so, to the extent that what the gaming industry is following appears very outdated from that view point (at least to someone like myself, who often work in smaller software shops). But that's from someone who has not been on their side, so all this is just out of my curiosity as an outsider though.


              You make some fair and valid points. I think the trend from smaller companies to big corporatization, has also pushed the whole focus in the wrong direction. I'm guessing it's frustrating for the developers as well. Instead of focusing on what they "know" to be innovative and important, they are pushed in other directions by "suits" that truly don't have the best interest in mind. By interest, I of course mean innovation and optimization improving gameplay versus strictly/mostly profit-oriented goals.

              All speculation of course, since I don't develop games (I actually configure and program hospital software), but an educated guess.

              Usually trends run full circle at some point. Hopefully some smaller companies crop up. Or at least companies understand the real "values" behind design and implementation.


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              • Pappy Knuckles
                LORDTHUNDERBIRD
                • Sep 2004
                • 15966

                #577
                Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.04 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                I just played my first game online since the patch and twice my base runners wouldn't move. It cost me 2 runs and the win. What the ****? How have they not fixed this game yet?

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                • Caulfield
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 10986

                  #578
                  Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.04 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                  Originally posted by bredfan
                  I wouldn't mind every other year releases. The problem I see is I just don't think this game sells well enough to support it.

                  Whether they release a game or not they're still paying the licensing costs. Taking years off probably just isn't financially feasible.
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                  • BannaCricket
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2015
                    • 102

                    #579
                    Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.04 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                    I really with they would have fixed the issue with CPU starting pitchers getting pulled in the 4 or 5 inning, regardless of pitch count, game situation, and slider settings.

                    I'm still happy with what they did fix. Especially the Mets 7 Line Army, of which I am a proud members of!

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                    • tabarnes19_SDS
                      Game Designer
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 3084

                      #580
                      Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.04 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                      I know someone mentioned that the ticker displays are correct, but I'm seeing them wrong. Played a few games simming to June.

                      30 team control, quick counts...wrong stats displayed or odd text.

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                      • qwikphaze01
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 244

                        #581
                        Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.04 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                        Originally posted by nomo17k
                        Yeah, so that's why I think so long as sticking to yearly cycle of the professional counterpart remains the bottom line for computer sports gaming, it would probably be difficult to find sustainable way to support the development itself, and demanding people who hang around in a forum like this one would always get some level of disappointment in seeing a product that takes a long time to get out of mediocrity, because the maintenance cost inherent in yearly cycle is too high. I still think The Show's bottom line is superb compared to other games I have played (that's why I still play it pretty much every day) but I sure have been quite disappointed by the lack of major progress in the directions where I think an authentic sports simulation game should be heading.



                        And the issue of revenue stream is one reason why, even though I'm personally not invested in playing a mode like the current Diamond Dynasty, I would not blame the developers to make a microtransactional mode appealing to more people who would invest in them. So long as what the developers gain from it is somehow useful to subsidize the (other) efforts that pushes the frontier of sport simulation game (which is what I am interested in), I don't really care much where that subsidy comes from.



                        Not in the game industry, I do not know how things work there so my speculation wouldn't be particularly useful, but I wonder if some ways other than a yearly packaged product can be successfully done for a game that goes through continual improvements (nonetheless might not optimally done in a short cycle like several months).



                        There have been new, inventive ways of software development processes in the past couple decades or so, to the extent that what the gaming industry is following appears very outdated from that view point (at least to someone like myself, who often work in smaller software shops). But that's from someone who has not been on their side, so all this is just out of my curiosity as an outsider though.


                        I wouldn't mind paying a subscription on the show if they treated it like an mmo.


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                        • Armor and Sword
                          The Lama
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 21790

                          #582
                          Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.04 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                          Originally posted by tabarnes19
                          I know someone mentioned that the ticker displays are correct, but I'm seeing them wrong. Played a few games simming to June.

                          30 team control, quick counts...wrong stats displayed or odd text.

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                          • tabarnes19_SDS
                            Game Designer
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 3084

                            #583
                            Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.04 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                            I got it in May as well. Are you using 30 team control and quick counts?

                            Any of all of those things can contribute. I've even seen text where stolenbaserbi is one word and it displays sb stats.

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                            • agentlaw13
                              Pro
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 557

                              #584
                              MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.04 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                              Originally posted by tabarnes19
                              I got it in May as well. Are you using 30 team control and quick counts?

                              Any of all of those things can contribute. I've even seen text where stolenbaserbi is one word and it displays sb stats.

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                              I have noticed this as well. I'm using 30 team control, NO quick counts, and I'm about 5 days from the trade deadline.

                              The stats weren't matching up with the category being shown like in your pics above.
                              Example : HR leaders being shown with batting avg listed instead of the number of HRs the player has hit.

                              Weird.

                              Just captured this while getting a game in this morning:



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                              Last edited by agentlaw13; 04-30-2017, 09:29 AM.

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                              • GisherJohn24
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 4589

                                #585
                                Re: MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.04 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

                                Originally posted by EWRMETS
                                I don't even notice a difference in bat sounds. Is it possible it's different on the Pro?
                                I haven't noticed either.

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