Directional Hitting Guide

[loso_34]

Re: Directional Hitting Guide

Having a balanced hitter is only one part of the equation, but you seem to already know that as you are pulling with Trout, something that I would recommend as well.

Having a balanced profile just means that they have no cost reduction for any influence like a pull hitter would for example (less or no cost for pull swings), so batter archetype is what should be considered. What are the hitter's strengths? Their weaknesses?

If you still feel like that yields no clear strategy, consider the pitcher you're facing instead. Fireballer? You want to push swing. Deceptive Fastball/Changup combo? Do some down swings. Lost of sinking pitches? Add the up influence in. Easy pickings? Pull swing time.

Maybin seems like an odd one. What are his attributes?

ok i get what you're saying. that guy with the (34,33,33) spray chart is brendan rogers..hes got 70 contact/power vs RHP so based off what you just mentioned ill be pulling from now on.

maybin has 82 contact vs RHP(62LHP) with 69 vision and average pop(50's). hes got a 38% to Left field in his spray chart so i pull early in counts but it has not been helping. i have seen some success pushing.

[TheWarmWind]

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ok i get what you're saying. that guy with the (34,33,33) spray chart is brendan rogers..hes got 70 contact/power vs RHP so based off what you just mentioned ill be pulling from now on.

maybin has 82 contact vs RHP(62LHP) with 69 vision and average pop(50's). hes got a 38% to Left field in his spray chart so i pull early in counts but it has not been helping. i have seen some success pushing.

Yeah I would have suggested you start with a pull while ahead, push while even/behind strat, but since that's not working try going for a push focused strat, and down when behind. His pull swing is probably slumping for him (it happens) but there is no reason to go back if the new strat starts working. Only consider going back if he starts slumping again.

[jtott]

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So.. let me get this strait hitting down with the directional arrow is better contact.. meaning more hr's? I am just catching all this late in this thread. I was getting ready to post my frustrations with directional hitting. Because after a few patches.. I have been popping the ball up more when pushing the directional arrow up and to pull.. I having been hitting hr's more with just pressing x on the pad.
Can someone help me with that??

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[TheWarmWind]

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So.. let me get this strait hitting down with the directional arrow is better contact.. meaning more hr's? I am just catching all this late in this thread. I was getting ready to post my frustrations with directional hitting. Because after a few patches.. I have been popping the ball up more when pushing the directional arrow up and to pull.. I having been hitting hr's more with just pressing x on the pad.
Can someone help me with that??

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Yeah you'll find info on that in the OP. In general, you want to avoid the up influence because it debuffs your vision. You'll find out why that is bad in the OP.

Edit: downwards influence adds vision, not contact. Vision is the most important stat when it comes to lining up and getting a solid hit with a favourable launch angle.

[loso_34]

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Yeah I would have suggested you start with a pull while ahead, push while even/behind strat, but since that's not working try going for a push focused strat, and down when behind. His pull swing is probably slumping for him (it happens) but there is no reason to go back if the new strat starts working. Only consider going back if he starts slumping again.

lastly i was reading page one and you mentioned players who have high contact/vision but no power. is it still favourable to approach at ab as if they were a power hitter?

[jtott]

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Yeah you'll find info on that in the OP. In general, you want to avoid the up influence because it debuffs your vision. You'll find out why that is bad in the OP.

Edit: downwards influence adds vision, not contact. Vision is the most important stat when it comes to lining up and getting a solid hit with a favourable launch angle.

Is there a YouTube instructional video for this ? Lol

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[TheWarmWind]

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Is there a YouTube instructional video for this ? Lol

Funny you mention that... I was contacted by OS for permission to use the info for this thread for a youtube video and possibly an article. I gave permission but nothing ever materialized to my knowledge, though I don't follow them on youtube.

That's right OS, I'm calling you out!

I mean, it's not their responsibility to or anything. Still, would have been cool to see my guide featured in an official capacity.

BTW people feel free to share the info in this thread wherever (show forums, reddit, etc), all I ask for is a shout out. Nothing complex just a simple mention is fine.

[jtott]

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Funny you mention that... I was contacted by OS for permission to use the info for this thread for a youtube video and possibly an article. I gave permission but nothing ever materialized to my knowledge, though I don't follow them on youtube.

That's right OS, I'm calling you out!

I mean, it's not their responsibility to or anything. Still, would have been cool to see my guide featured in an official capacity.

BTW people feel free to share the info in this thread wherever (show forums, reddit, etc), all I ask for is a shout out. Nothing complex just a simple mention is fine.

The info you gave is very detailed... I'm just not grasping it visually. The last SHOW , maybe even the one before that , with directional hitting.. down on the the whether right or left was more hitting down on the ball.. more grounders/just putting the ball in play. Up and left or right corner would generate an upper cut.. meaning more hr's , especially for those with above average power..
And now .. I am getting that it's the opposite. See my confusion? And that is why a visual would help.

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[TheWarmWind]

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lastly i was reading page one and you mentioned players who have high contact/vision but no power. is it still favourable to approach at ab as if they were a power hitter?

To begin with, yes, but these players are far more flexible at the plate, and also therefore far more difficult to scout.

[No.27]

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Funny you mention that... I was contacted by OS for permission to use the info for this thread for a youtube video and possibly an article. I gave permission but nothing ever materialized to my knowledge, though I don't follow them on youtube.

That's right OS, I'm calling you out!

I mean, it's not their responsibility to or anything. Still, would have been cool to see my guide featured in an official capacity.

BTW people feel free to share the info in this thread wherever (show forums, reddit, etc), all I ask for is a shout out. Nothing complex just a simple mention is fine.

Surely then it would at least be "Sticky" worthy to make amends 😀 🙏

[TheWarmWind]

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Surely then it would at least be "Sticky" worthy to make amends 😀 🙏

I honestly never imagined the guide would get this big. Not bad for a thread I made just out of convenience.

[TheWarmWind]

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The info you gave is very detailed... I'm just not grasping it visually. The last SHOW , maybe even the one before that , with directional hitting.. down on the the whether right or left was more hitting down on the ball.. more grounders/just putting the ball in play. Up and left or right corner would generate an upper cut.. meaning more hr's , especially for those with above average power..
And now .. I am getting that it's the opposite. See my confusion? And that is why a visual would help.
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Well, there are those visuals by triplecrown in the OP. They don't tell the whole story but they are a great place to start.

[Fuimus Troes]

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Thanks again, Wind, for the overhaul in general -- it's really got me playing the Show and enjoying it again. A couple observations, for what it's worth --

Pulse pitching is a scam. I can hit "good" with a small circle and it's almost a certainty that the ball won't go where I'm aiming, but somewhere on the outside of the circle. Even if it's a corner fastball and only about 7% of the circle's area is out of the zone, it's bound to be a ball. The pulse circle is stacked against you.

Straight pull doesn't add power from what I'm seeing. I've YET to hit a homerun with straight pulls, even when they're fastballs over the plate. I've hit all my homeruns without using directional at all, and a few of them have been using contact swing with power hitters. I think your take on the impact of directional influence is wrong -- I think where you press is where you're trying to get the ball to go, and that's it. Any power/contact buffs/debuffs happen when pitch location, type, and speed interact with your directional influence and swing type. I'm VERY suspicious of the contact/power/vision/discipline grids that are up, although it would be cool if things did work that way.

NO disrespect at all meant, just what I'm seeing after implementing your settings. Thanks again for all the hard work!

[TheWarmWind]

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NO disrespect at all meant, just what I'm seeing after implementing your settings. Thanks again for all the hard work!

No problem! Sucks it's not working out for you, but I understand and you gotta go with what works.

It's a little off topic, but how small the pulse can get is based on your BB/9, whereas the odds on whether the ball will be in the pulse or not is based on the individual pitch's control rating. So I can understand why you would think it's a scam but it's actually working as intended.

[Dragsy]

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Thanks again, Wind, for the overhaul in general -- it's really got me playing the Show and enjoying it again. A couple observations, for what it's worth --

Pulse pitching is a scam. I can hit "good" with a small circle and it's almost a certainty that the ball won't go where I'm aiming, but somewhere on the outside of the circle. Even if it's a corner fastball and only about 7% of the circle's area is out of the zone, it's bound to be a ball. The pulse circle is stacked against you.

Straight pull doesn't add power from what I'm seeing. I've YET to hit a homerun with straight pulls, even when they're fastballs over the plate. I've hit all my homeruns without using directional at all, and a few of them have been using contact swing with power hitters. I think your take on the impact of directional influence is wrong -- I think where you press is where you're trying to get the ball to go, and that's it. Any power/contact buffs/debuffs happen when pitch location, type, and speed interact with your directional influence and swing type. I'm VERY suspicious of the contact/power/vision/discipline grids that are up, although it would be cool if things did work that way.

NO disrespect at all meant, just what I'm seeing after implementing your settings. Thanks again for all the hard work!

Conversely, I'd wager I get about 2/3, maybe even 3/4 of my homers with a pull swing. These aren't hard and fast rules that guarantee an outcome, they're guiding concepts, the outcomes of which are affected by a multitude of factors.