Directional Hitting Guide

[TheWarmWind]

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What difficulty & sliders are you playing with this year TheWarmWind? Also what would you recommend for a realistic RTTS settings?

Cheers.

I can't give you any recommendations for realistic RttS settings since I never play the mode, but you can check out my slider set here:

https://forums.operationsports.com/f...t-sliders.html

I'm currently playing on the HoF hitting, Legend Pitching set. My sliders are also available in the vault under WWimpact18 V5.

[My993C2]

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I am a Directional Hitter using it in RTTS for a couple of reasons:

1) I like the simplicity of the hitting type.
2) I like that player attributes influence the outcomes.

Now I am in a bit of a quagmire right now and I know what the answer is, but I will still present the quagmire.

In my RTTS games I have mostly played on "All Star" Directional hitting + the Fastball Speed slider is at 9 and the Offspeed slider at 10, and I pretty much cruised through AA having no problems at all maintaining a .350 or better batting average. But now that I am in AAA, I am finding maintaining this .350 or better batting average has not changed, it is still fairly easy and well AAA is supposed to be more challenging than AA. I am supposed to be preparing myself for the MLB pitchers. So I have upped my hitting difficulty to "Hall of Fame" and all of a sudden I can't buy a hit and strike out a lot. Now I would like to add part of the reason why I strike out is because I am trying to be a more disciplined hitter and only swing at my pitchers. But now on HoF in my AAA games, the pitchers are painting corners and yes sucking me in to swinging for the low balls out of the strike zone when I have two strikes against me.

Now if you watched the real world 2017 Playoffs the Astros pitchers were masters at doing this, getting ahead in the count and then making their opponents look silly as they fished for pitches low or below the strike zone. So if it happens in the real world it should happen in the game for those who seek a level of realism and I know the answer should be that I just need to practice more on "Hall of Fame" difficulty because in time ... knock on wood ... I will get it.

But have others found "All Star" to be too easy while "Hall of Fame" let alone "Legend" is not? I am guessing I should stay on HoF and try and find the sweet spot with the sliders tweaks.

Play less and practice more I guess.

[TheWarmWind]

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But have others found "All Star" to be too easy while "Hall of Fame" let alone "Legend" is not?

There is a big difficulty gap between All-Star and HoF this year. I've actually made a fairly decent map of what gets harder via my slider sets, since this year I made ones for different difficulty levels.

You can check out my sliders here: https://forums.operationsports.com/f...t-sliders.html

I, as always, highly recommend using your own custom sliders, but hopefully the changes I found needed to be made between difficulty levels can be a useful resource in making your own sliders.

[My993C2]

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There is a big difficulty gap between All-Star and HoF this year. I've actually made a fairly decent map of what gets harder via my slider sets, since this year I made ones for different difficulty levels.

You can check out my sliders here: https://forums.operationsports.com/f...t-sliders.html

I, as always, highly recommend using your own custom sliders, but hopefully the changes I found needed to be made between difficulty levels can be a useful resource in making your own sliders.

My sliders are similar to yours. You have contact and solid hits one notch higher than mine while your timing is one less. Other than that they are similar.

I just came off of a game where I am sort of happy with the results, though I did strike out a few times more than I would have liked. But one thing that helped was that I changed my camera. Most of my games have been played with "Zoom Offset". I tried "Zoom" in BP and liked it, but in the games I felt too far away. I also tried "Strike Zone" in BP, but that was too much for me. I was too close. But then I tried "Strike Zone 2" in BP, liked it and used it in a game and liked it there as well. So I will try it some more to see if it can help with my discipline.

[TheWarmWind]

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My sliders are similar to yours. You have contact and solid hits one notch higher than mine while your timing is one less. Other than that they are similar.

I mainly sent you to see my sliders so that you could see the changes moving from all-star to HoF. I can get similar results on my all-star set as my HoF set, yet there is a 2 point difference in both timing and solid hits. Also don't forget about the pitch speed. Going up from all-star to HoF is equivalent to raising your pitch speed by 1.

[My993C2]

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I mainly sent you to see my sliders so that you could see the changes moving from all-star to HoF. I can get similar results on my all-star set as my HoF set, yet there is a 2 point difference in both timing and solid hits. Also don't forget about the pitch speed. Going up from all-star to HoF is equivalent to raising your pitch speed by 1.

I have four different RTTS players going right now. My main player is someone I have spent the most time with as I play full broadcast games with him where everyone bats, not just my guy and it is this player who is in AAA that I would like to see if I can handle the HoF difficulty. But I also have another positional player I recently started who is in AA and I think I will try both of your All Star as well as your HoF sliders on. Then on top of that I have a pitcher who is in the MLB and another pitcher in AAA. One thing about my pitchers though is they both have respectable (for a pitcher) 35 contact and 35 power hitting skills. I will try your sliders on them as well.

If I am not mistaken, when my AAA players make it to the MLB (like one of my pitchers already is), I may set my hitting difficulty on one level but the game actually adjusts to be one level higher. So if your All Star sliders work well for my AAA players, when they make it to the MLB I really do need to be prepared to hit on HoF even if the game says I am on All Star and I will want it this way. The MLB is supposed to be the top level with the nastiest of the nasty pitchers and I surely won't want hitting to be easier. My MLB pitcher has not seen enough plate appearances yet to know for sure. But he is hitting around .200 on All Star (which should mean he is actually hitting on HoF) which is not bad for a pitcher.

[sportyguyfl31]

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What is your approach with a hitter like Paul Goldschmidt?

His Contact vs righties is in the low 80's, power in the low 70's.. Vs lefties, contact is 90, power is 80-81ish. His profile is "balanced" but his hit chart, and hot zones indicate a preference for middle-in.

I've been taking the approach of push swing in early and 2 strike counts, and pull swing on 2-0, 2-1, 3-0, 3-1 counts.

Ive been making plenty of solid contact, a couple of doubles down the line, but havent been able to drive anything into the gaps or generate a homer yet.

Small sample size..only 6 games..so I assume if I just continue making good contact and keep my approach sound, that'll come

[KBLover]

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At this point, I'm pretty much holding down on almost every swing.

The results are clear and I don't think are placebo. Either the trajectory influence or the buff/penalty system (or both) are making the change. My LD rate has jumped significantly, on average, after doing just that difference.

At this point, I'm wondering if I should increase Contact to raise the impact of Vision (what I'm buffing in the buff/nerf system) and then I can adjust more on trajectory/direction.

Even if it's "minor", small changes can make big differences. Difference between a fly that makes the Monster or dies on the lip of the track. Difference between a liner over the 2B and towards the bullpens/triangle or right at him. Difference between a ball that makes it out over the bullpens or is a 370 foot pop fly, etc.

I haven't made a move yet, but I'm tempted to do so. Raise Contact, Lower timing some to compensate.

[KBLover]

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What is your approach with a hitter like Paul Goldschmidt?

His Contact vs righties is in the low 80's, power in the low 70's.. Vs lefties, contact is 90, power is 80-81ish. His profile is "balanced" but his hit chart, and hot zones indicate a preference for middle-in.

I've been taking the approach of push swing in early and 2 strike counts, and pull swing on 2-0, 2-1, 3-0, 3-1 counts.

Ive been making plenty of solid contact, a couple of doubles down the line, but havent been able to drive anything into the gaps or generate a homer yet.

Small sample size..only 6 games..so I assume if I just continue making good contact and keep my approach sound, that'll come

I would do no influence on him if I wanted him to go for it or down influence to try to shoot a hard liner somewhere.

On a count like 2-0, 3-1, I might even do up influence...maybe up-pull. Trust his natural ratings to help him in that situation, especially vs LHP. I mean 90/80 - that's just "you do your thing dude" or the up-and-pull influence if the situation calls for a good fly ball (sac fly, avoid DP, etc).

One thing about him being a "balanced" hitter is that any timing works equally for him. So that opens a lot of options.

[TheWarmWind]

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What is your approach with a hitter like Paul Goldschmidt?

His Contact vs righties is in the low 80's, power in the low 70's.. Vs lefties, contact is 90, power is 80-81ish. His profile is "balanced" but his hit chart, and hot zones indicate a preference for middle-in.

I've been taking the approach of push swing in early and 2 strike counts, and pull swing on 2-0, 2-1, 3-0, 3-1 counts.

Ive been making plenty of solid contact, a couple of doubles down the line, but havent been able to drive anything into the gaps or generate a homer yet.

Small sample size..only 6 games..so I assume if I just continue making good contact and keep my approach sound, that'll come

If I remember correctly his vision is low. That combined with a balanced profile suggests that a no influence swing when ahead and a down or down angled swing when even and behind would be best.

I'd probably favour no influence when possible, down on 0-2 and 1-2, and down pull on 2-2 and 3-2, with minor adjustments depending on the situation.

[sportyguyfl31]

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If I remember correctly his vision is low. That combined with a balanced profile suggests that a no influence swing when ahead and a down or down angled swing when even and behind would be best.

I'd probably favour no influence when possible, down on 0-2 and 1-2, and down pull on 2-2 and 3-2, with minor adjustments depending on the situation.

Yeah, his vision is 53. What would you consider your cut off for vision? 70?

[sportyguyfl31]

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Oh wow...just pulled a homer down 1-2 on a drive swing with Jake Lamb, off of Strasburg

[TheWarmWind]

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Yeah, his vision is 53. What would you consider your cut off for vision? 70?

There is no hard and fast cutoff point, I tend to think of attributes more like guidelines, not absolutes, but generally around 60 vision is where I start considering it a plus tool.

[Tomasson84]

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TheWarmWind, i know you said you dont play RTTS, but what influence would you recommend for the beginning of RTTS?

in case you didn't already know, depending on archetype you start with somewhere around 25-45 contact, 25-50ish power, 25-45ish vision, so pretty much every stat is really low, what would you recommend?

Also when would you(if) change/start using other influences?

Cheers.

[TheWarmWind]

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TheWarmWind, i know you said you dont play RTTS, but what influence would you recommend for the beginning of RTTS?

in case you didn't already know, depending on archetype you start with somewhere around 25-45 contact, 25-50ish power, 25-45ish vision, so pretty much every stat is really low, what would you recommend?

Also when would you(if) change/start using other influences?

Cheers.

If you are a pull or push hitter, I would recommend starting by favoring those influences just to see if you can make it work, then adjusting to a no influence/downward influence strategy if it doesn't. Honestly though, since you are only playing one player, you can afford to be a little more experimental to see what works and what doesn't.

As to when to change your strategy at the plate, the best answer is probably the simplest one: When your current strategy stops working.