Directional Hitting Guide

[HypeRNT]

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When a batter comes up and there are 3 types (contact, balanced and power) does that mean i should be using corresponding swing button with him?

So for example, if underneath a batters name it says "contact", should i be swinging with a circle? and if a batter is "balanced" does that mean X button?

[TheWarmWind]

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Just an update, there will definitely be an update to this guide. Things have changed in 19, and while the guide will still help, it's not entirely accurate anymore either. I'll probably write a "changes for 19" section, as opposed to editing.

My batting approach strategies are so outdated. I either need to either update or delete that section. I'm not going to go into detail now, all I can say is that the down influence is more than a little OP. I use it a lot (although not all the time). Also another reminder that the up influence has been buffed. It's still not a good idea in a lot of situations, but it's no longer the trash swing it was in previous iterations. It's really good for getting that sac fly now.

I also want to tell you that the work has not ended on the fielding guide. It's near ready, and if I find myself wanting to do some writing on a lazy Sunday, it will probably be my next project.

[sportyguyfl31]

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Just an update, there will definitely be an update to this guide. Things have changed in 19, and while the guide will still help, it's not entirely accurate anymore either. I'll probably write a "changes for 19" section, as opposed to editing.

My batting approach strategies are so outdated. I either need to either update or delete that section. I'm not going to go into detail now, all I can say is that the down influence is more than a little OP. I use it a lot (although not all the time). Also another reminder that the up influence has been buffed. It's still not a good idea in a lot of situations, but it's no longer the trash swing it was in previous iterations. It's really good for getting that sac fly now.

I also want to tell you that the work has not ended on the fielding guide. It's near ready, and if I find myself wanting to do some writing on a lazy Sunday, it will probably be my next project.

Was just going to ask this...lol. also is this a viable hitting interface for online play?

[DeputySmoke]

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If using zone hitting, can you still use influence? Say pre-pitch by moving R3 inside if I wanted to pull? Is there anyway to influence for zone hitting? Not sure if this is different for 19. Sorry if this was already answered.

[KBLover]

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If using zone hitting, can you still use influence? Say pre-pitch by moving R3 inside if I wanted to pull? Is there anyway to influence for zone hitting? Not sure if this is different for 19. Sorry if this was already answered.

"Influence" for zone hitting is mostly placing the PCI in certain locations relative to the pitch and manipulating your timing as with Directional. You can create similar effects with PCI location relative to the pitch location (ex: PCI under the ball "influences" fly ball) but you won't be able to natively replicate any of the nerf/buffs TWW talks about.

The difference is that if you move your R3 to the inside corner and the pitch is middlish - you'll "swing inside the ball" and probably push it to his opposite field, or towards the middle of the field (around the 2B/RCF if a RHB).

Looking inside would still require you to swing just early. In and of itself, it won't increase pull chances because that depends on your timing and the specific area of the PCI the pitch is when the bat contacts it.

So, assuming I understand Zone correctly, the "influence" for direction is more like: outside part of the PCI = opposite field tendency, inside part of the PCI = pull field tendency. Where the pitch actually is doesn't matter so much other than inside pitches are more likely to land on the inside part of a PCI (unless you're looking/moving way in). That's actually true for Directional. Inside, in and of itself, doesn't mean pull. You can "Jeter it" the other way, and with authority, if the ratings and timing are there.

It's actually true of real hitters. Unless a hitter can pull those hands in, he's probably pulling an inside pitch but it's still a function of his swing plane (part of what the PCI is abstracting with this system). The pitch location just makes hit more/less difficult to hit a certain direction.

So, in your example, if I want to turn on something in, and I'm expecting him to try to burn off the inside corner, I'd probably put the PCI more "middle-in" and swing with Good timing. That would put the ball on the inner half of the PCI, causing a pull tendency.

JMO, correct me if I'm wrong

[TheGr8Drake28]

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Got a question.. Say I have an right handed batter if I influence to pull the ball with the right analog, what is the difference when holding the left analog to the left. Using directional.. I'm confused lol.

[TheWarmWind]

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Got a question.. Say I have an right handed batter if I influence to pull the ball with the right analog, what is the difference when holding the left analog to the left. Using directional.. I'm confused lol.

The right analog is to influence bunts. I don't believe it has an impact on swings. I can double check though if you like, I have honestly never tried it, or even considered trying it.

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[TheGr8Drake28]

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The right analog is to influence bunts. I don't believe it has an impact on swings. I can double check though if you like, I have honestly never tried it, or even considered trying it.

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Ok. So just using the left stick while batting is the right approach. Also you suggest always using the left stick before every pitch?

[TheWarmWind]

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Ok. So just using the left stick while batting is the right approach. Also you suggest always using the left stick before every pitch?

I suggest choosing an influence before every pitch yes. The no influence swing, where you don't touch the joystick, is one of those choices. It's all in the OP.

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[Coach11]

Directional Hitting Guide

Ok. So just using the left stick while batting is the right approach. Also you suggest always using the left stick before every pitch?

I’ve been having just as much success this year when NOT using any influence.

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[Drty_Windshield]

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I’ve been having just as much success this year when NOT using any influence.

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I'll hold down every now and then, and hold up for sac fly purposes, but 95% of the time I just swing.

[lere2001]

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having tons of success with drive swing this year. Looking forward to update

[TheWarmWind]

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having tons of success with drive swing this year. Looking forward to update

It might not be for a while. I've been chatting about it in other threads, but I still haven't nailed down exactly what has changed.

I do know that contact affects more, but all of what it does affect now is still not clear.

I do know that the pull swing has been nerfed and the up swing has been buffed though. That I can confirm. The down or drive swing is just as powerful as ever though, maybe even more so.

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[wcu25rs]

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It might not be for a while. I've been chatting about it in other threads, but I still haven't nailed down exactly what has changed.

I do know that contact affects more, but all of what it does affect now is still not clear.

I do know that the pull swing has been nerfed and the up swing has been buffed though. That I can confirm. The down or drive swing is just as powerful as ever though, maybe even more so.

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Yep, in years past, especially 18, an influence up and to the left or right on a hitter's count and a pitch in the zone to a power hitter and it was gone. Dont think I've hit a dinger yet with that influence. Just lazy pop fly. I haven't tried the just up influence since it used to be terrible. I'll have to give it a try.

[julolo]

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For me the best influence has been "no influence" so far. And maybe the push swing and down/pull.
I was using directional for online RS last year and made WS this way but i'm having a lot more difficulties to hit this year. May consider turning to zone.