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  • Gagnon39
    Windy City Sports Fan
    • Mar 2003
    • 8544

    #16
    Re: HOF has saved this game for me...

    Not a fan of bumping the contact slider to 7. I like to play as close to default as possible.


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    • PsychoBulk
      Hoping for change...
      • May 2006
      • 4191

      #17
      Re: HOF has saved this game for me...

      As do i, but on default HOF there are still many k's, only a tad, on both sides, so i have it at 6 for both HUM and CPU.

      I never have any slider on different settings for the Human or the Computer.

      Fairness all the way.

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      • RogueHominid
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2006
        • 10900

        #18
        Re: HOF has saved this game for me...

        I had the same experience this year. I've been working on AS as a matter of principle, as I figured HOF would just add a bunch of BS to the game play to make it "harder." Not the case at all. I'm getting amazing games on HOF, but the difference is that the CPU pitchers are more intelligent and the hitters more consistently MLB-caliber.

        What I'm surprised by is that even ace pitchers on HOF can be hittable, and mid-level starters are certainly so. Likewise, good CPU hitters can miss hittable pitches on HOF.

        What I saw on AS was that CPU pitchers left twice as many hittable pitches in the zone as on HOF, and CPU hitters took far too many mistakes for strikes instead of swinging at them.

        HOF seems to heighten the intelligence and competitiveness of the CPU while also allowing ratings to dictate outcomes. I pretty much never feared the CPU hitters on AS, but now I do, depending on the matchups. And I got to a point where I could knock around good pitchers at will on AS. Not so much anymore.

        Glad I'm not alone on this!

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        • Armor and Sword
          The Lama
          • Sep 2010
          • 21790

          #19
          Re: HOF has saved this game for me...

          Switching to HOF pitching (Classic) with no ball marker or vibration is awesome. I love it and will never go back down to AS. That is a done deal.

          I still have not tried HOF hitting though. But some of the posts here have me quite curious. I would like a more intelligent pitcher. Not that I am raking like a mad man on AS. I still feel hitting is pretty balanced on AS. But I am able to sit on pitches easier this year than in years past and that IMO is my skill level just getting better.

          So it might be time to try HOF hitting as well.

          What the heck.....I will try it out tonight.
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          • Gagnon39
            Windy City Sports Fan
            • Mar 2003
            • 8544

            #20
            Re: HOF has saved this game for me...

            The other thing that makes me want to stay on All-Star is the absurd amount of web gems by average fielders. I wish I had video of a double play that was turned on me on Hal of Fame. It's was just ridiculous. Does it happen? Sure. But not at the rate that it does on the game on Hall of Fame. I'm sure some will say they don't see it, but it's something I noticed consistently.


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            • Armor and Sword
              The Lama
              • Sep 2010
              • 21790

              #21
              Re: HOF has saved this game for me...

              Originally posted by Gagnon39
              The other thing that makes me want to stay on All-Star is the absurd amount of web gems by average fielders. I wish I had video of a double play that was turned on me on Hal of Fame. It's was just ridiculous. Does it happen? Sure. But not at the rate that it does on the game on Hall of Fame. I'm sure some will say they don't see it, but it's something I noticed consistently.


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              Dude....I see amazing plays every night when I watch baseball. And go ahead and watch Quick Pitch every morning.

              There is a reason only 750 men in the entire world play in The Show.

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              • PsychoBulk
                Hoping for change...
                • May 2006
                • 4191

                #22
                Re: HOF has saved this game for me...

                Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                Switching to HOF pitching (Classic) with no ball marker or vibration is awesome. I love it and will never go back down to AS. That is a done deal.

                I still have not tried HOF hitting though. But some of the posts here have me quite curious. I would like a more intelligent pitcher. Not that I am raking like a mad man on AS. I still feel hitting is pretty balanced on AS. But I am able to sit on pitches easier this year than in years past and that IMO is my skill level just getting better.

                So it might be time to try HOF hitting as well.

                What the heck.....I will try it out tonight.
                Honestly Armor, i thought i just wouldnt be up to HOF hitting, as i wasnt exactly lighting up A/S, but the fact im better and over a longer period of time shows me it is more than do-able.

                I dont think there is the vast chasm between the two levels some people seem to think.

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                • CaseIH
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 3945

                  #23
                  Re: HOF has saved this game for me...

                  It seems to me that they have lowered the CPU ability some on AS. Its what I had played on for the past few years. I didnt buy the game last yr, but compared to 15, the CPU offensively at AS just seems to suck.

                  I decided to try dynamic this yr as hitting has gotten difficult for me over the last few yr, and figured I didnt have anything to lose, so I tried it out and to my surprise its been tuned really well.

                  I also found out I suck even more at hitting than I even thought, as I hoover at rookie, but Im hovering between HOF and Legend with my pitching.

                  Im getting some really good games, where they are pitching duels, then I get some games where a lot of runs get scored.
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                  • NewNapkin
                    Moderator
                    • May 2009
                    • 989

                    #24
                    Re: HOF has saved this game for me...

                    Highly recommend. I'm currently using Hall of Fame hitting and Legend pitching (Mike Lowe's sliders), and every home run, clutch strikeout, or web gem results in a big fist-pump from me. Pitchers are fooling the heck out of me, and it feels like the real deal.

                    For those who are getting hung up on too many small things, challenge yourself and play a damn good game of baseball. It's fun.

                    EDIT: It kind of reminds me of when people started turning off the strike zone and Guess Pitch. In theory the game became more difficult, but we became more well-rounded against a good AI and the realism and fun levels increased.
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                    • Sumodeads
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 195

                      #25
                      Re: HOF has saved this game for me...

                      I've raised my difficulty levels this year as well and I'm having much more challenging games. I play on HOF hitting and LEGEND pitching with default sliders. I used to dominate the CPU on the mound too much. This year I have to be careful with each and every pitch because they will absolutely rock you if you make a mistake(and sometimes even if you don't).

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                      • Gagnon39
                        Windy City Sports Fan
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 8544

                        #26
                        Re: HOF has saved this game for me...

                        Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                        Dude....I see amazing plays every night when I watch baseball. And go ahead and watch Quick Pitch every morning.



                        There is a reason only 750 men in the entire world play in The Show.



                        Enjoy it.


                        Don't you hit on All-Star?

                        And I know. But these 750 men don't make 99% of the diving catches they attempt. One of the things I absolutely love about The Show is that it's the only baseball game I've ever played that replicates errors and imperfections well. In every other game the CPU automatically knows as soon as the ball is hit how to take a perfect angle to the ball, and whether or not it can make a diving catch. In The Show I've seen players dive (both infielders and outfielders) for a ball and miss. I've seen the ball pop out of a player's glove on a ball that would have been a home run (a robbed home run attempt), that rolled away from him for a standup triple. I love that kind of stuff. And it happens (in my opinion) at a realistic rate on All-Star.

                        However, on Hall of Fame players (no matter their fielding ability) make insane plays almost every time. It happens, I get that. But arguing that it happens at the frequency at which it does on Hall of Fame is just not a logical argument. Again, in my opinion.

                        Like I said, I really wish I had a video of a double play that was turned on me a week or so ago when I was hitting on Hall of Fame. It was my breaking point, and it was not just one isolated incident. It was the final straw of the web-gem fest on display on Hall of Fame.

                        And also as I've stated previously, all my numbers; stats, results are great, except my high home run totals. I play as the Cubs so it's to be expected to some degree but it's just too much. There's no doubt that tuning my players power ratings just a bit would fix the issue so that's what I'm going to do. I wish I didn't have to but I'd rather do that then see every player be Ozzie Smith reincarnated.

                        Ultimately, any way we all want to cut it, and any justification we want to make does not discount an apparent and evident trend on this year's game. There are just more home runs and they are going farther than ever before. It would be silly for us not to note the obvious, that the new ball physics are most likely the culprit.

                        I'd be willing to bet any amount of money that someone's willing to lose that next year in the streams prior to release the development team talks about how "last year's ball physics created a little too much power at the plate."

                        I just think it's something that it troublesome for them to adjust but I imagine that we won't see the frequency or distances in next year's game that we're seeing this year.


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                        • EWRMETS
                          All Star
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 7491

                          #27
                          Re: HOF has saved this game for me...

                          What were your numbers at before Patch 1.05. I had a ridiculous amount of homers with Nelson Cruz prior to 1.05 and even though he has slowed down to a more realistic rate, his numbers are still overall very high because of his big April.

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                          • Armor and Sword
                            The Lama
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 21790

                            #28
                            Re: HOF has saved this game for me...

                            Originally posted by Gagnon39
                            Don't you hit on All-Star?

                            And I know. But these 750 men don't make 99% of the diving catches they attempt. One of the things I absolutely love about The Show is that it's the only baseball game I've ever played that replicates errors and imperfections well. In every other game the CPU automatically knows as soon as the ball is hit how to take a perfect angle to the ball, and whether or not it can make a diving catch. In The Show I've seen players dive (both infielders and outfielders) for a ball and miss. I've seen the ball pop out of a player's glove on a ball that would have been a home run (a robbed home run attempt), that rolled away from him for a standup triple. I love that kind of stuff. And it happens (in my opinion) at a realistic rate on All-Star.

                            However, on Hall of Fame players (no matter their fielding ability) make insane plays almost every time. It happens, I get that. But arguing that it happens at the frequency at which it does on Hall of Fame is just not a logical argument. Again, in my opinion.

                            Like I said, I really wish I had a video of a double play that was turned on me a week or so ago when I was hitting on Hall of Fame. It was my breaking point, and it was not just one isolated incident. It was the final straw of the web-gem fest on display on Hall of Fame.

                            And also as I've stated previously, all my numbers; stats, results are great, except my high home run totals. I play as the Cubs so it's to be expected to some degree but it's just too much. There's no doubt that tuning my players power ratings just a bit would fix the issue so that's what I'm going to do. I wish I didn't have to but I'd rather do that then see every player be Ozzie Smith reincarnated.

                            Ultimately, any way we all want to cut it, and any justification we want to make does not discount an apparent and evident trend on this year's game. There are just more home runs and they are going farther than ever before. It would be silly for us not to note the obvious, that the new ball physics are most likely the culprit.

                            I'd be willing to bet any amount of money that someone's willing to lose that next year in the streams prior to release the development team talks about how "last year's ball physics created a little too much power at the plate."

                            I just think it's something that it troublesome for them to adjust but I imagine that we won't see the frequency or distances in next year's game that we're seeing this year.


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                            Are you watching baseball every night like I do? I watch MLB games every night around the league.

                            This is the trend IRL. It really is folks. Bombs are being hit all the time.

                            I remember a thread on here the first week of the release complaining about Brett Gardners power LOL. (People forget he hit 17 and 16 HR’s in 14 and 15)

                            Dude has already hit 9 HR’s this season.....and he is crushing the ball. Why?

                            Simple.

                            He is jumping on pitches very early in the count this year. And it has made a huge difference for him. He is hitting first pitch fastball strikes over 380 feet.....this is a trend in the game today......more bombs.

                            Guys are striking out more because the aggression of hitters has increased a ton.

                            It does not equate to better hitters......but the long ball is alive and well in the MLB today. The game has changed.

                            The Show is replicating that.

                            The hit variety this year is unmatched by any previous version of this game. I am just calling it like I am seeing it.

                            I see web gems on AS hitting too. Plenty of them.

                            I am about to try out HOF hitting.
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                            • Gagnon39
                              Windy City Sports Fan
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 8544

                              #29
                              Re: HOF has saved this game for me...

                              You've missed some of my points. I see web gems on All-Star as well, and it's great. But on Hall of Fame they are far too frequent.

                              In regards to the power, I agree that home runs are up. But if you had a player on your team on The Show that hit 70 and two others that hit 55-60, would that not be a bit much for you?


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                              • Armor and Sword
                                The Lama
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 21790

                                #30
                                Re: HOF has saved this game for me...

                                Originally posted by Gagnon39
                                You've missed some of my points. I see web gems on All-Star as well, and it's great. But on Hall of Fame they are far too frequent.

                                In regards to the power, I agree that home runs are up. But if you had a player on your team on The Show that hit 70 and two others that hit 55-60, would that not be a bit much for you?


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                                I would really question my difficulty level and sliders before I would say the game is not right. I am not having the power issues that some are having.

                                I am getting great results on All-Star hitting. I am curious about pitcher AI though on HOF and want to see how it plays.

                                But I understand some of your points. And those HR totals are way high for you. Maybe you should try tweaking some things around to make it more difficult to hit HR’s.

                                Wish I had that problem LOL. My big boppers hit the right amount. I have not seen anything out of whack like you have.

                                I would try adjusting your hitting sliders on All-Star if you want nothing to do with HOF.
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