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  • tessl
    All Star
    • Apr 2007
    • 5685

    #181
    Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

    Originally posted by BXBRUINS
    I umpire. Trust me it slices!! You better be paying attention because the speed of the ball off the bat is insane[emoji1303]


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    they curve IRL but not as extreme as in the show 17



    That ball was fair 20 feet in front of the bag and made a left turn and landed several feet foul just behind the bag.

    The problem was the curve was too extreme and the balls landed foul far too often.

    It appeared on the little things steam the problem was fixed but when I watched it a second time I noticed Ramone had foul balls turned off so who knows.

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    • Rob_NYY
      Jedi Master
      • Dec 2004
      • 2495

      #182
      Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

      Originally posted by tessl
      they curve IRL but not as extreme as in the show 17



      That ball was fair 20 feet in front of the bag and made a left turn and landed several feet foul just behind the bag.

      The problem was the curve was too extreme and the balls landed foul far too often.

      It appeared on the little things steam the problem was fixed but when I watched it a second time I noticed Ramone had foul balls turned off so who knows.
      You keep posting that clip to prove your point, yet nothing there is extreme or unrealistic.




      That ball JUST sliced foul. What is wrong with that?! That happens in baseball all the time. I've seen balls in real life slice way more extremely than that clip.

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      • Blzer
        Resident film pundit
        • Mar 2004
        • 42523

        #183
        Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

        Well for only 100 feet of travel that is on the extreme side, but I don't think it's unrealistic. I don't think it would happen from that bat angle and contact point, though. Perhaps I'm mistaken. I'm on the side of "It looks normal to me," though.
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        • Padgoi
          Banned
          • Oct 2008
          • 1873

          #184
          Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

          Originally posted by Rob_NYY
          You keep posting that clip to prove your point, yet nothing there is extreme or unrealistic.




          That ball JUST sliced foul. What is wrong with that?! That happens in baseball all the time. I've seen balls in real life slice way more extremely than that clip.
          I think the point he's trying to make in the show 17 (which I agree with) is that these types of foul balls are far too prevalent and happen on a constant basis. There are way too many instances of hits down the line that just curve foul by inches. The best example of this from 17 is the almost absurd amount of long fly balls that literally land foul by 2 inches! Yes, ball curve is realistic, but not at the rate it happens in 17 and not all balls that curve are foul.

          Also, in the video shown of 18, while it doesn't really curve that much, another point that should be made is that, as shown in the Colon video, the ball needs air time to curve like that. In the show 18 video, that ball is barely off the ground. A ball barely off the ground like that is probably not going to curve close to that much and most certainly going to stay fair!

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          • nemesis04
            RIP Ty My Buddy
            • Feb 2004
            • 13530

            #185
            Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

            If there was a batting average for hitting foul balls, I would be hitting over .400 in 17 with solid contact. Between the lines? I was lucky to get past the Mendoza line. Hitting was whacked out last year.
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            • Culture Rot
              MVP
              • Aug 2011
              • 3018

              #186
              Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

              Originally posted by nemesis04
              If there was a batting average for hitting foul balls, I would be hitting over .400 in 17 with solid contact. Between the lines? I was lucky to get past the Mendoza line. Hitting was whacked out last year.
              It was never any better. What version do you honestly think hitting wa better in?

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              • countryboy
                Growing pains
                • Sep 2003
                • 52789

                #187
                Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

                Personally I like the hitting in '16.

                As an overall game, I think that '16 is the best of the series.
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                • nemesis04
                  RIP Ty My Buddy
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 13530

                  #188
                  Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

                  Originally posted by xlatinoheatx
                  It was never any better. What version do you honestly think hitting wa better in?
                  I hit well with 11,13,14,15. Things started to slide in 16 and 17 was a disaster for me.
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                  • EnigmaNemesis
                    Animal Liberation
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 12216

                    #189
                    Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

                    Originally posted by nemesis04
                    I hit well with 11,13,14,15. Things started to slide in 16 and 17 was a disaster for me.
                    It is called age. We getting old!

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                    • HypoLuxa13
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 1156

                      #190
                      Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

                      Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                      It is called age. We getting old!

                      Absolutely agreed! My reflexes suck compared to 10-15 years ago. I actually have hit the best in 16 and 17 that I've hit in years, since MLB 11. MLB 12 and 13 were seriously humbling experiences for me and my gaming ego.

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                      • Culture Rot
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 3018

                        #191
                        Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

                        Originally posted by countryboy
                        Personally I like the hitting in '16.

                        As an overall game, I think that '16 is the best of the series.
                        You think 16 is a better game because hitting was easier? What about all the improvements from 16 to 17. I'd really be interested to hear what you mean. Because Ive read the opposite. Seems like people are all over the place with their hitting experiences. Seems very anecdotal. Maybe you have lost your reflexes?

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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52789

                          #192
                          Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

                          Originally posted by xlatinoheatx
                          You think 16 is a better game because hitting was easier? What about all the improvements from 16 to 17. I'd really be interested to hear what you mean. Because Ive read the opposite. Seems like people are all over the place with their hitting experiences. Seems very anecdotal. Maybe you have lost your reflexes?
                          No...I think '16 overall was a better game because I got more enjoyment out of playing '16 than I did playing '17. '17 was a good/great game, just some of the hiccups prevented me from enjoying it as much as I did '16.

                          And honestly, I thought hitting was easier on '17 than it was on '16. I thought the hitting was more balanced in '16 than it was in '17.
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                          I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                          • Caulfield
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 10986

                            #193
                            Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

                            Originally posted by xlatinoheatx
                            You think 16 is a better game because hitting was easier? What about all the improvements from 16 to 17. I'd really be interested to hear what you mean. Because Ive read the opposite. Seems like people are all over the place with their hitting experiences. Seems very anecdotal. Maybe you have lost your reflexes?
                            17's PCI probably makes 16 seem harder to hit, if anything. Passed balls & wild pitches, combined with new physics also gives 17 a very different feel from 16. Among other small things.
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                            • tessl
                              All Star
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 5685

                              #194
                              Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

                              In case anybody cares this is my take on the gameplay stream.

                              First my take on the show 17 gameplay. In manage mode there wasn't enough offense and the primary culprits were new ball curve which turned about a dozen balls which were hits down the line in the show 16 into foul balls - and slightly overpowered infielders. When they removed that much offense from the game they failed to add offense elsewhere which is why runs were inordinately low and why I quit playing the game and quit posting on this forum in June 17.

                              What caught my attention about the show 18 streams is ball curve remains the same. In the little things stream the balls were landing fair - because as you can see at one point in the stream they had foul balls turned off. When you have to turn off foul balls that's not promising.

                              They mentioned they lowered density of air to increase ball travel which should add offense.

                              They mentioned fielder ability is now more dependent on all attributes which should add offense. They missed a great opportunity to show the differences between different fielders in the stream. They mentioned it as a feature but didn't show it.

                              They mentioned improved catcher and tag animations which result in more outs and should subtract offense.

                              What does it mean in terms of gameplay? It's hard to say until and unless you buy the game and play it.

                              Biggest potential positive is the change in fielders which differentiates between fielders depending on attributes.

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                              • Padgoi
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 1873

                                #195
                                Re: MLB The Show 18 Gameplay Features Revealed (22 minutes)

                                Deleted as I started another thread.
                                Last edited by Padgoi; 02-26-2018, 01:30 PM.

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