Phases?

[MattP598]

Is this really a feature? I mean this is basically just being told what any decent franchise player already knows. Are there any other changes to the mode? Seems like offline franchise never receives any love. There are so many things that need to be improved in franchise mode and we get phases and retro mode??

I would of been happy if no new features were added and instead trading, contracts, scouting, and stats had been improved.

Of course I'll still buy it because of the new gameplay additions but franchise is getting really stale to someone who doesn't play any other sports game and plays multiple seasons per year. I was really hopeful this was going to be the year for some big improvements/changes to the mode because, well, there haven't been any for a long time.

[ShowSavage]

Re: Phases?

Is this really a feature? I mean this is basically just being told what any decent franchise player already knows. Are there any other changes to the mode? Seems like offline franchise never receives any love. There are so many things that need to be improved in franchise mode and we get phases and retro mode??

I would of been happy if no new features were added and instead trading, contracts, scouting, and stats had been improved.

Of course I'll still buy it because of the new gameplay additions but franchise is getting really stale to someone who doesn't play any other sports game and plays multiple seasons per year. I was really hopeful this was going to be the year for some big improvements/changes to the mode because, well, there haven't been any for a long time.

They're thinking that many players who currently have trouble with the mode will be empowered with this new feature. Apparently they have reason to believe there are a ton of those people out there, and that the people who loved the mode for years and are just looking for a couple new features are demanding too much and are not a significant market.

I have no doubt people out there will appreciate these new PHASES, but there is QUITE a bit of backlash on the internet to the way they rolled out a 2 hr live stream to tell us virtually nothing had been done for previous fans.

[tessl]

Re: Phases?

Everything in phases was already in the game. It appears to be a way to get players who previously played exclusively the arcade modes interested in franchise by simplifying everything for them.

I continue to believe they underestimate the number of people who play franchise and instead of making the mode deeper they do this stuff and in the process alienate some of the people who currently use franchise.

[Dolenz]

Re: Phases?

I continue to believe they underestimate the number of people who play franchise and instead of making the mode deeper they do this stuff and in the process alienate some of the people who currently use franchise.

I highly doubt that. They obviously have stats on how many games are played in each mode because they have given out those numbers the last few years.


Plus everybody's profile logs how much time they spend in each mode of the game. SDS, I would hope, could simply query how many people have > 0 hours in franchise. Or better yet > 10 hours since many DD players jumped in franchise just long enough to accomplish the mission that was attached to the mode in 17.

[Rob_NYY]

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I highly doubt that. They obviously have stats on how many games are played in each mode because they have given out those numbers the last few years.

The issue with those numbers are that they get their data from people connected to the internet. Of course the ONLINE mode DD is going to have the most players. How do they account for the millions of people who have a PS4 that is not connected to the internet? Those offline players who have The Show surely aren't playing DD, they are playing Franchise and other offline modes and since their PS4s aren't connected to the internet, their "games played" and "time spent" stats in those modes don't get counted.

[Bacong]

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The issue with those numbers are that they get their data from people connected to the internet. Of course the ONLINE mode DD is going to have the most players. How do they account for the millions of people who have a PS4 that is not connected to the internet? Those offline players who have The Show surely aren't playing DD, they are playing Franchise and other offline modes and since their PS4s aren't connected to the internet, their "games played" and "time spent" stats in those modes don't get counted.

do you honestly think there are "millions" of PS4 owners who don't connect to the internet? do you honestly think that a significant number of those "millions" play this game, a game which is played in vast majority by people from the USA, which reduces your sample size even further?

[tessl]

Re: Phases?

I highly doubt that. They obviously have stats on how many games are played in each mode because they have given out those numbers the last few years.


Plus everybody's profile logs how much time they spend in each mode of the game. SDS, I would hope, could simply query how many people have > 0 hours in franchise. Or better yet > 10 hours since many DD players jumped in franchise just long enough to accomplish the mission that was attached to the mode in 17.

At the risk of being scolded for posting this again I played hundreds of hours in mlbts 17 franchise manage mode and I am unable to post on the "official" website. When I asked the moderator of that forum - who is an employee of San Diego Studios - he said the reason I can't post is because his data indicates I haven't play the game enough.

Try it for yourself. Go to the official website and see how many hours they have you listed as playing in franchise.

They underestimate the number of hours in franchise.

[Dolenz]

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At the risk of being scolded for posting this again I played hundreds of hours in mlbts 17 franchise manage mode and I am unable to post on the "official" website. When I asked the moderator of that forum - who is an employee of San Diego Studios - he said the reason I can't post is because his data indicates I haven't play the game enough.

They underestimate the number of hours in franchise.

There are posters over there who don't even post on their normal profile. Sounds like a rogue moderator to me.

[Rob_NYY]

Re: Phases?

do you honestly think there are "millions" of PS4 owners who don't connect to the internet? do you honestly think that a significant number of those "millions" play this game, a game which is played in vast majority by people from the USA, which reduces your sample size even further?

Yes, it is estimated that there are over 15 million PS4's in the United States that are not connected to the internet.

Who's to say how many of those people play The Show or not? They are not connected so there is no data. Whether it's 50 players, 500 players or 5,000 players, they are still playing hundreds, maybe thousands of games in Franchise mode and other offline modes that are not being counted. To just dismiss these players, like SDS is doing by only focusing on modes that are playing primarily online, is not right.

[Impetuous65]

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Just so you guys know, if you are connected to the net, they use their own dev tools (telemetry data) to determine everything e.g. how many times people swing a bat or strike out, you don't have to upload anything, that is something they have to extract data, it is involuntary.

Horizon Zero Dawn dev released some telemetry stat tracking data. To show user activity.

[underdog13]

Re: Phases?

At the risk of being scolded for posting this again I played hundreds of hours in mlbts 17 franchise manage mode and I am unable to post on the "official" website. When I asked the moderator of that forum - who is an employee of San Diego Studios - he said the reason I can't post is because his data indicates I haven't play the game enough.

Try it for yourself. Go to the official website and see how many hours they have you listed as playing in franchise.

They underestimate the number of hours in franchise.

Maybe the data used for that and data used for comparing player hours is different

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[TheBleedingRed21]

Re: Phases?

Regardless how many play, hardcore franchise players are the minority. Phases is bringing out a much needed facelift and hopefully will bring more players in which would be a win win for anyone.

[HypoLuxa13]

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Yes, it is estimated that there are over 15 million PS4's in the United States that are not connected to the internet.

source? That seems really high. As of December 2017, they have sold 70 million worldwide(1). 15 million in the US alone to not be connected to the internet?

(1) Polygon.com, 12/7/2017

[Dolenz]

Re: Phases?

Try it for yourself. Go to the official website and see how many hours they have you listed as playing in franchise.

They underestimate the number of hours in franchise.

I have said it before. On the website the hours don't roll over to days. They just reset to 00:00


I checked this a few nights ago and the hours and minutes showed correctly but for DD and Franchise it cut off days. the website shows that I have 21 hours and 55 minutes in DD but if I check on the PS4 it is actually 6 days, 21 hours, and 55 minutes.

[Vmascarello]

Re: Phases?

I like Phases because after playing Franchise for a couple months. You start to appreciate a clean and well organized mode.

With the displays looking clean and the player models bigger with better detail on the matchup screen, I think this is the stuff that I'll enjoy all year. I loved last years game, but as time went on I wasn't a big fan of the way it was set up. Especially the dark blue background without really anything eye-catching and engaging.

I feel like the the new interface along with Phases will be more appreciated as time wears on. And people get over the fact that a feature they were hoping for didn't make the game.