No Season Mode?

[BigOscar]

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I heard a rumour about this yesterday and frankly it's pretty appalling for them to remove it and not tell anyone before release. That's straight up scamming people in my book as they have purposely withheld the information, knowing that they'd lose sales if they announced it.

Really poor form SDS.

[Nature_Boy]

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MLB The Show 18 also removed Season Mode.

http://www.pastapadre.com/2018/03/23/mlb-the-show-18-also-removed-season-mode

[thescoop]

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I usually can find a reason to defend SDS but there is no defense for this. The fact they not only removed it but didn't tell anyone is offensive. How many live streams did they have? They didn't think at anytime this might be important.

While this mode is NOT one I play, I have always viewed removing features as a negative. But this is bigger. This is a mode that has ALWAYS BEEN THERE. It isn't a new feature for a few years they decided was unimportant and just dropped. This is SEASON MODE. It existed before Franchise mode. SDS needs to patch this in ASAP or offer refunds to the folks they didn't warn about this omission. What's next? Are you going to remove Franchise and not tell us next year?

Sorry, SDS. But you cannot be defend on this one. This is unacceptable. One could defend the removal of Online Franchise for a year while you got the servers straightened out. (Defend but not be OK with.) But there is NO REASON to remove this feature. And there is NO EXCUSE to not tell anyone.

Shame on you, SDS. We expect better from you guys.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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They never said it was gonna be in either

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This is a pretty ridiculous stance to take. lol

Did they say there was gonna be dirt on the fields? And grass? Did they say the White Sox are in the game? That the player models have eyeballs?

We shouldn't have to search for visual evidence that something like this wasn't removed. A simple notification is all people would've needed, then to go through a "grieving process" for those affected. To go through a 2 month hyping process to just happen to forget to say "oh, we took out a major mode" is the worst kind of optics. It makes customers feel cheated. And even if those customers are wrong (they're not!), you don't want to bite the hand that feeds you so to speak.

There really is no "yeah, but..." counterargument here. Best of luck to anyone who even tries to do so...

I just wanna hear them TRY to give a justification for removing seasons. What on Earth caused them to remove a feature that wasn't broken and many folks enjoyed and preferred over franchise?

If they looked at metrics and said, wow nobody plays this mode, we should remove it, that's piss poor and a tone deaf call. For a game that brags about giving players streamlined ways to play baseball, removing this and forcing people to play franchise is horrible.

Now we know why the touted "phases" so much for franchise when nobody EVER complained that franchise takes too long.

And the fact that you don't mention the removal of seasons before people pre-order is downright criminal. SDS is shades of EA.

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Now "phases" is making a whole lot more sense, eh?

I'm going to remind all of you:

You can be upset. But if you attack anyone, INCLUDING the guy from SDS here on his own time trying to help however he can, you will not be welcome at OS anymore.

We're better than that, folks.

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I'd be curious to see what your take is? Both on them removing the mode and how they ended up going about it?

Hi folks. While the option for Season mode is no longer available, there are steps you can take to create a similar experience to it within Franchise mode.

1. Set the GM Contracts option to OFF in the mode entry options list.
2. On the Franchise Responsibilities page, set Player Development & GM Tasks to AUTO.
3. From there, you can control how much or how little you want to control by visiting User Settings > Mode Specific Options to tailor what additional areas you want to control.

You Season mode enthusiasts can be disappointed about this...actually you should be furious I think. But, Victor here is giving good advice (^^) for those of you who played Season mode because you were intimidated by Franchise mode and didn't want to do any of the managing stuff. Franchise mode with everything set to "auto" (except setting your own lineups probably) is kinda like a better Season mode.

If you were playing Season mode for other reasons (custom season length, porting rosters etc) well, then you're kinda screwed.

[ckarlic]

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Not the point. Also, people want to just select 28 or 56 games in a season which you can't now. The main point is that they did it without even saying anything which is pretty shady.

I have to agree with you. Even though I didn't play season mode in the past, I was really thinking about rolling with season mode this year since my time for gaming has decreased significantly over the years. I applauded SDS for not removing features but like others have said, I hope SDS does not eventually become like EA. Unfortunately, it seems like they are trending that way with DD and show packs. Hope I am wrong on this one since MLB 18 looks and plays great.

[thescoop]

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I assume it was removed as it was probably the least played mode in the game. chopping block.

Also, if you want to just play games in franchise without all the worry of contracts, minors, etc. then just set all of it to auto and the CPU will handle everything for you. I honestly enjoy everything franchise has to offer. Give it a go,

I doubt this mode was used less than Retro Mode. But since that was a focus for them last year, they cut something that has been there since the game started. SDS should have just left it alone. Wasn't like they had to do much to update Season Mode.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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I do not understand the removal of Season mode, but Retro Mode stays in. What is even more strange, they incorporated Retro into Franchise, but... still no Season. If RTTS was not my main mode of play, I would seriously reconsider opening it when it arrives.

Paying $38 for it at the end of the day for the MVP Edition makes it much easier to swallow.

They also should have been more forthcoming with letting the community know. I seen the question asked in many streams, and have it go unanswered.

[ckarlic]

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I do not understand the removal of Season mode, but Retro Mode stays in. What is even more strange, they incorporated Retro into Franchise, but... still no Season. If RTTS was not my main mode of play, I would seriously reconsider opening it when it arrives.

Paying $38 for it at the end of the day for the MVP Edition makes it much easier to swallow.

They also should have been more forthcoming with letting the community know. I seen the question asked in many streams, and have it go unanswered.

I didnt think about Retro mode since I played it for 5 mins and didnt care for it last year. I think it is sort of shady that this was not mentioned at all that the mode was removed before the game was released. I honestly would have still bought the game but I understand completely why those who have been playing season mode for years would be upset and feel deceived. It is not cool how SDS did not mention this.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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MLB The Show 18 also removed Season Mode.

http://www.pastapadre.com/2018/03/23...ed-season-mode

I really hope Sony gets crushed in the media for this. Their customers need to send a strong message that this is unacceptable and they deserve more respect.

The sad part is the devs probably hate the decision as much as we do, but the suits at Sony probably made them do it for some stupid corporate reason. I don't think the devs sat down and said "hey, guys so how do we finally get rid of Season mode?"

[ukas]

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So the only way to play friends online now is by single games and that's it?

[Blzer]

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I honestly thought Season mode was removed a long time ago. I seem to remember people griping about that. Maybe that was for 2K or a different sports game altogether.

As far as season/franchise carry-over, they better hope it's an important feature, because that's what gets me to buy the next game more than anything. I want to continue my franchise from the previous season. I can see why seasons-people would want to do the same thing.

If one of the constraints is on memory, maybe that is why the mode is gone. Every time they introduce something new (more stadiums, jerseys, commentary types, heck even animations), I ask myself: "At what cost?" Not everything can just be thrown into the game; some things have to be removed to make that happen. Granted, I believe they are able to get items to store on your HDD instead of the disc, but that's neither here nor there.

I'd like to pretend that SDS wasn't aware that anybody asked about Season mode, in that they would answer
honestly one way or the other. So with that, I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt. I mean they mentioned no more online franchise mode (at least for this year, but we'll see what happens) so I reckon they would have possibly said the same for no Season mode. But I was not poking around the areas when those questions were asked, so I cannot comment on the stated ignorance that everyone else seems to be claiming.

I am seeing the slippery slope of lack of options, though. There was a time when you could turn off a home run celebration camera, mute certain announcers, use analog hitting with a zone mechanism (I think they may have brought that back?), have a full uncut broadcast presentation, have a regular looking ball (instead of the "beach ball" look), not see slowdown on the infield in RttS, play a Vita copy of the game (hell, in the Vita version you really had a big beach ball and text pop-ups for FOUL and OUT, neither of which you could disable for any release of that game)... the list goes on. Hell, even Analog pitching still doesn't have a way for hiding the ball cursor on the graphic, and I have been requesting that since the MLB '11 demo (among other things). I am becoming more and more limited to what it is I can do on the field, or so it seems... and the things that have always felt like pretty obvious add-on options never came to be.

The "out of the box" version of this game is not the one that I play; I really don't like that game much to be honest, and I have to tweak the hell out of it to my liking. That's good and fine, but when those items are removed and they have little chance of seeing the light of day again, you're thrown into the mix of simply settling or selling. I love The Show, and I can't wait to get my copy of the game and hopefully transfer my franchise over without a hiccup, but this game never was a must-buy. They still have to earn my almighty dollar, and twice in the past ten years they have not earned it.

I feel incredibly sorry for those who lost Season mode, but for me it's kind of like hearing a celebrity died and I'm sitting there like: "Wait, I thought he was already dead?" It does speak volumes about their overall path for many options, though. I think it is diminishing, whereas others on here swear by the fact that nothing is ever removed. That is not true at all. I just hope they weren't being intentionally deceitful about removing this thing and not letting anyone know about it.

[thescoop]

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Hi folks. While the option for Season mode is no longer available, there are steps you can take to create a similar experience to it within Franchise mode.

1. Set the GM Contracts option to OFF in the mode entry options list.
2. On the Franchise Responsibilities page, set Player Development & GM Tasks to AUTO.
3. From there, you can control how much or how little you want to control by visiting User Settings > Mode Specific Options to tailor what additional areas you want to control.

Victor,

Thank you for the workaround and being here while a lot of folks are upset. I do have a couple of questions. I don't know if you have the time or the authorizations to answer them but I am going to ask then just wait on a reply.

1. Why wasn't the removal of this mode announced? I only play Franchise mode but I get why this is so frustrating to so many gamers. If you removed Franchise mode, the only mode I play, and didn't tell me I'd be upset too I spent my money on the game. So why not just tell everyone before the release?

2. What reason is there for the removal of this mode? I can't see any justification but maybe there is one. I'm more than willing to listen if you can answer.

3. Should we expect more core modes to just vanish moving forward without any announcement?

4. Is there any chance, due to the outrage over the removal, that this mode could be patched back into the game?

I'm not going to badger you or press you on these questions. I know that you may be limited in what you can answer. I get that as I work for a company as well. I still thank you for at least coming into the thread with the workaround you gave above but I know for some that isn't going to be the same thing.

Thank you for your time.

[Vmascarello]

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For those that just want to play the games and not manage anything else, you can still enjoy the game.

In Franchise, you can set everything to auto and just play the games. If you have other reasons like season length, then their may not not be a fit.

But if it's just being simple and playing games, you can get a similar experience in Franchise.

[whitesox2020champs]

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For those that just want to play the games and not manage anything else, you can still enjoy the game.

In Franchise, you can set everything to auto and just play the games. If you have other reasons like season length, then their may not not be a fit.

But if it's just being simple and playing games, you can get a similar experience in Franchise.

Pardon the ignorance, but how true is this? If I set everything to auto and just play the games like I would in season mode, I don't want the auto GM messing with my roster or lineups or anything. Is there a way to truly make franchise mode season mode, aside from the 162 game requirement?

[EnigmaNemesis]

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Victor,

Thank you for the workaround and being here while a lot of folks are upset. I do have a couple of questions. I don't know if you have the time or the authorizations to answer them but I am going to ask then just wait on a reply.

1. Why wasn't the removal of this mode announced? I only play Franchise mode but I get why this is so frustrating to so many gamers. If you removed Franchise mode, the only mode I play, and didn't tell me I'd be upset too I spent my money on the game. So why not just tell everyone before the release?

2. What reason is there for the removal of this mode? I can't see any justification but maybe there is one. I'm more than willing to listen if you can answer.

3. Should we expect more core modes to just vanish moving forward without any announcement?

4. Is there any chance, due to the outrage over the removal, that this mode could be patched back into the game?

I'm not going to badger you or press you on these questions. I know that you may be limited in what you can answer. I get that as I work for a company as well. I still thank you for at least coming into the thread with the workaround you gave above but I know for some that isn't going to be the same thing.

Thank you for your time.

Very good constructive questions.