No Season Mode?

[tonysnow45]

With the franchise mode, the season mode will not be missed.  It was a wasted mode that only pleased a small fan base.

[TheBigTee]

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With the franchise mode, the season mode will not be missed. *It was a wasted mode that only pleased a small fan base.

Thanks for the productive commentary.


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[elfdutch]

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With the franchise mode, the season mode will not be missed. *It was a wasted mode that only pleased a small fan base.

Last year we had franchise and season mode. It is being missed, this thread already has 20 pages so a lot of ppl are missing it.

[Caulfield]

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I dont hold any ill-will to SDS but next year will be the first time in forever that the Show isnt a day one purchase. unless they say they're bringing back season mode in 19. otherwise I'll wait till a price drop or I can get a good deal on a used copy from gamestop. again, I'm not upset, I will just replay 14 15 16 & 17 for my season needs.

[Houston]

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I don't think you quite understand what was removed.

Yes, online franchise was removed. That is a separate conversation.

There has always been both season mode and franchise mode. Franchise is a multiple season venture whereas season mode was a single season mode where you could even change the number of games in the season. They've always been two separate modes.

Season mode was indeed something else that was removed. It is not the same as franchise.

Also I just would like to add to this season mode is just 40 man rosters for those who dont want to manage a full 90 man roster. Season mode had the same exact features as regular franchise but with a downsized roster and less games if you preferred.

If you had made a franchise on 17 let's say using OSFM roster anyone who was not on the 40 man roster would all go into the free agent pool giving all 30 teams just 40 players to worry about.

[Turbojugend]

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I guess the only question I would have for SDS is "why"? Was Season Mode a massive resource hog? Did it require a complete retooling? I honestly have no idea why a seemingly simple feature that was already well-implemented would just go missing.

I'm not super-upset or anything, but I will miss Season Mode this year.

[LowerWolf]

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Season mode wasn't single season. You could play multiple seasons with offseason, free agency, etc., just like Franchise. It was basically Franchise Lite.

I always had my own little reality where each team just had 40 players. Maybe that wasn't realistic, but it added intrigue to me when I only had 2-3 prospects instead of AA and AAA rosters full of them.

[spyjam]

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i will not buy 18 or future installments after finding this out. i have been a day one purchase for 14-17 and have strictly only played season mode for the past decade. it is ridiculous that this was not announced at all and had to be discovered by day one players.

it would be somewhat excusable if they added the ability to change the number of games in franchise mode and the ability to bring forward past season mode saves to 18's franchise. but this is insane and highly disappointing. it seems like it could have taken more effort to remove season mode than to keep it in anyway.

im hoping they somehow patch this back in, if not, the show is dead to me.

[bkrich83]

No Season Mode?

Another lesson into why pre ordering games should be a thing of the past and people should stop doing it.

If no one pre ordered it and got it early then we wouldn’t know about it until release day. Use your head.


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[bkrich83]

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I’m assuming it was taken out with Online Franchise when they rewrote the code. I enjoy both online and offline play but this explicit and destructive bias for online play is insane and it’s clear that the priority is on online play for the DD microtransactions. Offline play simply doesn’t produce the profit that DD does. I completely understand the profit motive, but seeing as they’re the only true to life simulation baseball game out there, they should at least *try* to make the experience fulfilling for all players instead of continuing to line their pockets while deconstructing less profitable aspects of the game.
For years I’ve refused to overly criticize the developers and I’ve been very tolerant of their questionable decisions because I truly believed they still had all players’ interests in mind and were attempting to improve all areas, but at this point I see no way that can still be true. They removed these modes for the sole reason of catering to online gameplay.
I’ve enjoyed Season a lot and I’m incredibly disappointed it’s gone but I’m mostly upset because they’ve 100% confirmed the direction they’re heading and I do not see them ever turning it around.


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Best post of the thread.


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[Caulfield]

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If no one pre ordered it and got it early then we wouldn’t know about it until release day. Use your head.



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Guess its time to start renting games first again, before buying lol

[Houston]

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I guess the only question I would have for SDS is "why"? Was Season Mode a massive resource hog? Did it require a complete retooling? I honestly have no idea why a seemingly simple feature that was already well-implemented would just go missing.

I'm not super-upset or anything, but I will miss Season Mode this year.

If I had to guess they removed it kind of the same excuse they gave for online franchise the whole re-coding took longer than expected. I know they removed online franchise for stability reasons, but with the "Phases" they worked on franchise and did not have time to do it for season or phases would have messed up season mode. I think there really the same mode just a lesser version like someone already had mentioned so the 2018 franchise, phases should have worked with season mode. Maybe they needed space and something had to go. I would have removed Retro Mode and Home Run Derby before removing Season mode and Online Franchise modes that's been there since the beginning.

[bkrich83]

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Stop assuming that a mode that really like ten people play should be in a game anymore.

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Stop. Just stop.


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[doctemple]

I often read that “no one plays off-line” anymore. Actually, one of the developers actually said during one of the endless pre-release videos that SD knew that MANY people play off-line and that was the reason for the “improvements” (apparently, not very important ones) to aspects of the game other than DD. So, for all those bashing those of us who play franchise and other non-revenue producing modes,  you may  want to go back and  find that video. I wish I could remember the one.

Like others have said so well, this was way below SDS’s level and, like others, I do not even play season mode. I started buying the game every two years starting with ‘15, and this is the first year I have pre-ordered. You I will certainly never do so again. The trust is  gone.

[JTommy67]

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Just want to reiterate something:

By extending the carry-over saves to season mode a few years ago they effectively showed a commitment to protecting a ten-year old game mode that many obviously enjoyed. After all, why would they do this if they didn't see the mode as a permanent fixture in the series?

This is the part that really grinds me...their actions indicated it was a priority...then comes the blindside.

I am in the seventh season of a historical season mode where I've edited the rookies to real players, etc...started this in 2016! Now for 2018 it's useless.

I did it PRECISELY because THEIR OWN ACTIONS indicated they were going to continue support for the mode. Had they said something like..."we can't guarantee season mode will always be there" or something along those lines a lot of heartache could have been avoided.

For those who don't realize: season mode is far "quicker" than franchise not only because you don't have to worry about minor league transactions, but the simming is much quicker due to only needing to sim 1/3 of the games each day...so you can go fast...much easier to manage transactions throughout the league and on any team you are controlling...easier to follow developments...can select shorter seasons.

I would suspect that those who play season mode stick with it longer because of this - they are not likely to suffer fatigue from it nearly as much. Probably why there is a thread filled with very fanatical but disappointed devotees.

In a perfect world, someone should write a conversion utility to convert a season file to a franchise file...fill in all the empty player slots with generic values so at least we could continue what we started, if not in the same mode. Of course, this will never happen...and while I am not one to say I am owed anything it is not unreasonable to expect some kind of statement from them.