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  • nemesis04
    RIP Ty My Buddy
    • Feb 2004
    • 13530

    #196
    Re: No Season Mode?

    Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
    I don't share your confidence in the data quality, actually. I feel there have been too many oddities with severs/connectivity over the previous several years to presume their telemetry system is this slick data-collecting behemoth. Based on my own personal experiences that I described above. Too much cognitive dissonance here.

    But, I have no hard evidence either way.
    Fair enough, it is impressive though.
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    • LowerWolf
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jun 2006
      • 12268

      #197
      Re: No Season Mode?

      Originally posted by Houston
      Well said. Now I get it why phases was done in the first place this year, The knew they were removing season mode never said anything, so they introduce phases to get people to play franchise who don't understand the full mode that preferred to play an easier option. They take away online franchise and season mode and break down franchise mode in phases to get people to either play it or forced to play DD.
      I don't think you meant it this way, but just to clarify: I think most, if not all, of us Season mode guys understand how franchise works. It's not that it's too complicated or too hard, we just prefer a more streamlined approach to our dynasty mode.

      Edit: I'm talking about the diehards here at OS. I'm sure there's plenty of casual fans who do find Franchise a bit intimidating.
      Last edited by LowerWolf; 03-23-2018, 08:18 PM.

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      • WaitTilNextYear
        Go Cubs Go
        • Mar 2013
        • 16830

        #198
        Re: No Season Mode?

        One last comment and I think I'll have it all out of my system, lol.

        So this thread has pretty much established that: (1) people are upset at SDS having tons and tons of opportunities to mention this mode was taken out and deciding not to (and what this might mean about future recurrences of this type of thing); and (2) Franchise mode even with everything set to auto doesn't exactly mimic all the features people enjoyed about Season mode (different roster size, ability to have shorter games and shorter seasons, ability to port in certain kinds of rosters).

        But, there's a third issue...

        The devs have been hammering away on us for 2 years now (at least) that Franchise mode is too complicated for most people to fully understand and their data has revealed this in a big way, so they've been adding method after method after method for shortening and simplifying (critical situations, slicker menu interfaces, quick counts, player lock, phases...which is basically a menu interface, etc). This has been their stated focus. Make it simpler and easier for people to use. So, then, how does removing the simplest possible way for people to get a Franchise-like experience (and one that is already in the game and works just fine!) fit in with this philosophy? It seems to be completely inconsistent with their stated intentions and what they've been doing about Franchise mode. To me, that adds another layer of skepticism and confusion about where they are headed with this title in the future.
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        • EnigmaNemesis
          Animal Liberation
          • Apr 2006
          • 12216

          #199
          Re: No Season Mode?

          It is clear that they want to streamline the modes down to one, so they don't have to work on two separate modes (3 if you count online Franchise).

          I just hope they can figure out a way, where inside Franchise, one click of the button could basically set it to 'season' (40 man, season/inning lengths, etc.), and strip out all the weight making those options inaccessible essentially.

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          • WaitTilNextYear
            Go Cubs Go
            • Mar 2013
            • 16830

            #200
            Re: No Season Mode?

            Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
            It is clear that they want to streamline the modes down to one, so they don't have to work on two separate modes (3 if you count online Franchise).

            I just hope they can figure out a way, where inside Franchise, one click of the button could basically set it to 'season' (40 man, season/inning lengths, etc.), and strip out all the weight making those options inaccessible essentially.

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            Yeah, I agree. But an announcement in, say, January or February to the effect of: "Hey guys, we are consolidating Season mode into Franchise mode, which has been newly streamlined, and are temporarily cutting out Online Franchise until we can make it more stable. This will allow us to use our limited resources in a more effective way"--this would've gone a long way. Even if it takes them until next year to develop Franchise mode to the point where it can totally mimic Season mode. And even if it takes until 2020 before Online Franchise [hopefully] returns.
            Last edited by WaitTilNextYear; 03-23-2018, 08:36 PM.
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            • bkrich83
              Has Been
              • Jul 2002
              • 71582

              #201
              Re: No Season Mode?

              Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
              This is not true. They use telemetry statistics and are able to see how many minutes/seconds each mode has been played for.

              Now for those who do not connect online, I am sure that may not count, but I highly doubt that number is remotely high enough to alter statistics in this gen of gaming.
              I'm starting to believe they don't use this telemetry data as much as they say they do, and they instead prioritize revenue generating opportunities above all else, which offline franchise/Season does not provide for the most part.

              It sucks, but it's the way the industry is moving. One more reason I play less and less every year.
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              • bkrich83
                Has Been
                • Jul 2002
                • 71582

                #202
                Re: No Season Mode?

                Originally posted by doctemple
                As I said in my post, I have heard SDS say that a large portion of their customers (many more than the “10” *you, bkrich 83, speak of) play season mode and franchise.
                WTF are you talking about?
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                • SeahawkSanders
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 55

                  #203
                  Re: No Season Mode?

                  This sucks to know season mode is gone. Any chance an update could at least allow a shorter schedule or innings in francy mode? Bummed.

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                  • chris68pj
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 212

                    #204
                    Re: No Season Mode?

                    The funny thing is how up front they were about announcing there would be no online franchise mode. It's like they toyed with the idea of being transparent, saw the backlash, and were then like "oh ****, we better let them figure out there's no season mode on their own after they've paid for the game".

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                    • Caulfield
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 10986

                      #205
                      Re: No Season Mode?

                      Originally posted by chris68pj
                      The funny thing is how up front they were about announcing there would be no online franchise mode. It's like they toyed with the idea of being transparent, saw the backlash, and were then like "oh ****, we better let them figure out there's no season mode on their own after they've paid for the game".
                      That doesnt make sense because the backlash from that scenario is worse than just saying upfront that season mode as a stand-alone is being removed. I really hope something can be done through a patch by May. But I doubt it
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                      • DvsClint
                        Just started!
                        • Mar 2018
                        • 4

                        #206
                        Re: No Season Mode?

                        I’m mind boggled there is no reg season option

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                        • DvsClint
                          Just started!
                          • Mar 2018
                          • 4

                          #207
                          Re: No Season Mode?

                          But I’m assuming that you can make Franchise mode just like a season

                          Correct?

                          Like just to where you control the lineups and play your individual

                          Teams games .

                          God I sure hope so, not everyone wants to play

                          Conquest or that laggy *** fukking online bull****

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                          • baz351b
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 37

                            #208
                            Re: No Season Mode?

                            Thank god i had time to CANCEL my order Shame on on u SDS
                            thanks for letting me know.

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                            • ChiTownKid
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 1002

                              #209
                              Re: No Season Mode?

                              Well, I bought the game today, digital, because I was sold on the hype. I will never do that again.

                              I will never buy MLB again on launch day, and I will never buy it again if season mode is not restored.

                              I feel ripped off, SDS. If I had known there was no season mode ahead of time, I would not have purchased the game. As it stands, you have my money for a product sold in bad faith, and I don't take that lightly. Plenty of others here obviously feel the same way.

                              Do the right thing and patch season mode back in.

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                              • ninertravel
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 4833

                                #210
                                Re: No Season Mode?

                                You guys are kidding yourselves if you are going this would be patched in, I’ve never seen an entire mode patched in in a sports game

                                It’s gone l for people keep saying DD is the mode they care about franchise had already been secondary enough , they will do a EA soon and take out30 real control thinking single player is dead

                                There was. A stream where I seen the menu and didn’t see season mode and a lot of ppl asked in the stream not seeing it, question got ignored. Just like the ohrani 2 way question that was adjed3 million times, I’d no answer you know the answer is no.

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