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  • slyfox
    Rookie
    • Sep 2003
    • 232

    #106
    Re: Franchise Budget Question

    From what I've gathered.....contract lengths are ok, but real dollar figures throw it off. I would encourage you to ask for more information in the rosters forum for ways to make contract lengths work.

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    • Unlucky 13
      MVP
      • Apr 2009
      • 1707

      #107
      Re: Franchise Budget Question

      Originally posted by slyfox
      From what I've gathered.....contract lengths are ok, but real dollar figures throw it off. I would encourage you to ask for more information in the rosters forum for ways to make contract lengths work.

      Sent from my LG-H900 using Tapatalk
      The dollars are just as important to me. Thank you, and I'll browse that forum. I've never wandered into that section before.
      Anyone who claims to be a fan of two teams in the same pro sport is actually a fan of none.

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      • Vanilla_Gorilla
        Rookie
        • May 2018
        • 420

        #108
        Re: Franchise Budget Question

        I'm really confused on how the budgets work. I thought I knew, but after my recent White Sox franchise season end. I'm more confused than ever.

        When I entered into Year 1 offseason I had about 64 million in the bank(63.75 exactly) with a cash flow of 1.11 million and a team revenue of 3.3 Million

        When I exited Offseason I had a cash flow of 2.35 million.

        Entering in the season I have a revenue of 3.5 million and a cash flow of 695k where the heck did all my money go?

        I didn't hardly sign anybody I signed 8 players total. 2 were traded. 3 were youngsters on Minor league contracts and the other 3 aren't making more than 1.1 million a year.

        I finished the year 77-85

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        • Unlucky 13
          MVP
          • Apr 2009
          • 1707

          #109
          Re: Franchise Budget Question

          Originally posted by Vanilla_Gorilla
          I'm really confused on how the budgets work. I thought I knew, but after my recent White Sox franchise season end. I'm more confused than ever.

          When I entered into Year 1 offseason I had about 64 million in the bank(63.75 exactly) with a cash flow of 1.11 million and a team revenue of 3.3 Million

          When I exited Offseason I had a cash flow of 2.35 million.

          Entering in the season I have a revenue of 3.5 million and a cash flow of 695k where the heck did all my money go?

          I didn't hardly sign anybody I signed 8 players total. 2 were traded. 3 were youngsters on Minor league contracts and the other 3 aren't making more than 1.1 million a year.

          I finished the year 77-85
          Those are really great questions. Its something that the team at SDS really needs to patch.
          Anyone who claims to be a fan of two teams in the same pro sport is actually a fan of none.

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          • Vanilla_Gorilla
            Rookie
            • May 2018
            • 420

            #110
            Re: Franchise Budget Question

            Originally posted by Unlucky 13
            Those are really great questions. Its something that the team at SDS really needs to patch.
            My payroll only increased by about 5 million I think, but even then the bank revenue increase should've easily covered that.

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            • moTIGS
              Pro
              • Jun 2003
              • 566

              #111
              Re: Franchise Budget Question

              Thankfully I've rarely found myself in a position where the budget has mattered, as I've given up trying to make it make sense.

              I more or less just treat it as I'm working for an owner whose goal is to make money, so the budget is whatever arbitrary number they give me and everything else is theirs to keep.

              I really hope the system gets an overhaul next year.

              And if not an overhaul, at least give us the option to turn it off (and adjust other things like team control) without restarting a franchise.

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              • Vanilla_Gorilla
                Rookie
                • May 2018
                • 420

                #112
                Re: Franchise Budget Question

                Originally posted by moTIGS
                Thankfully I've rarely found myself in a position where the budget has mattered, as I've given up trying to make it make sense.

                I more or less just treat it as I'm working for an owner whose goal is to make money, so the budget is whatever arbitrary number they give me and everything else is theirs to keep.

                I really hope the system gets an overhaul next year.

                And if not an overhaul, at least give us the option to turn it off (and adjust other things like team control) without restarting a franchise.
                I like how the system works they just need to take some more time and effort into accurately explaining it. They give next to no tutorial at all on how it works and the complicated method behind it.

                Your revenue increase is based upon your record(attendance in irl, reflected by record in game) and bank, but they give no set in stone numbers on how the money transfers which leaves us confused as all hell.

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                • Other Guy
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 1585

                  #113
                  Re: Franchise Budget Question

                  Originally posted by countryboy
                  I see my weekly cash flow available and multiply that by 26 weeks and it gives me a rough estimate of what I have to spend.
                  Thanks for this! I just finished my first off-season, and using this guideline, I had no problems. I started with a cash flow 3.09M.

                  3,090,000 weekly x 26.7 weeks = 82,500,000 roughly.

                  So I had 82.5M to resign my guys and any new FAs. I kept all but a few of my guys, and signed a couple of role player FA's. I didn't go after big FAs (Harper, Bumgarner) and I missed out on Arrieta because I didn't want to pay what the Cubs offered.

                  After all that, my final cash flow was 0.682M weekly or 18.2M. I kinda left a lot on the table, but didn't want to spend needlessly. I hope it rolls over to next year. I did not have any contract offers cancelled or run into any budget restrictions of any kind. As far as the bank amount goes, I have no idea. I just ignored it completely.

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                  • countryboy
                    Growing pains
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 52736

                    #114
                    Re: Franchise Budget Question

                    Originally posted by Other Guy
                    Thanks for this! I just finished my first off-season, and using this guideline, I had no problems. I started with a cash flow 3.09M.

                    3,090,000 weekly x 26.7 weeks = 82,500,000 roughly.

                    So I had 82.5M to resign my guys and any new FAs. I kept all but a few of my guys, and signed a couple of role player FA's. I didn't go after big FAs (Harper, Bumgarner) and I missed out on Arrieta because I didn't want to pay what the Cubs offered.

                    After all that, my final cash flow was 0.682M weekly or 18.2M. I kinda left a lot on the table, but didn't want to spend needlessly. I hope it rolls over to next year. I did not have any contract offers cancelled or run into any budget restrictions of any kind. As far as the bank amount goes, I have no idea. I just ignored it completely.
                    You're welcome!

                    I honestly have no idea if my "formula" is 100% accurate, but it worked for me. And you.
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                    • Unlucky 13
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 1707

                      #115
                      Re: Franchise Budget Question

                      Originally posted by Other Guy
                      Thanks for this! I just finished my first off-season, and using this guideline, I had no problems. I started with a cash flow 3.09M.

                      3,090,000 weekly x 26.7 weeks = 82,500,000 roughly.

                      So I had 82.5M to resign my guys and any new FAs. I kept all but a few of my guys, and signed a couple of role player FA's. I didn't go after big FAs (Harper, Bumgarner) and I missed out on Arrieta because I didn't want to pay what the Cubs offered.

                      After all that, my final cash flow was 0.682M weekly or 18.2M. I kinda left a lot on the table, but didn't want to spend needlessly. I hope it rolls over to next year. I did not have any contract offers cancelled or run into any budget restrictions of any kind. As far as the bank amount goes, I have no idea. I just ignored it completely.
                      Holy cow! How did you manage to profit 3mil every week? Did you start with a big budget team and slash them to start over? I'm way, way under budget with the Cubs and I get about 1 mil/week. I've had times where its been under 300k.
                      Anyone who claims to be a fan of two teams in the same pro sport is actually a fan of none.

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                      • countryboy
                        Growing pains
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 52736

                        #116
                        Re: Franchise Budget Question

                        I shared two screens from my in season franchise to show what I did in the offseason and it worked. (thanks to those on OS that shared this)

                        Basically if you take your weekly cash flow and multiply it by 26, you'll get your remaining/available budget. (26 isn't exact but its close enough)

                        Example below:

                        My remaining budget is $38.31M

                        If I go into the free agent screen, I see that my max weekly offer is $1.47M. Take 1.47 times 26 and you'll get $38.22M, which is close enough. The closer to exact, if not exact number would be 26.0612245.

                        Hope this helps.
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                        • Unlucky 13
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 1707

                          #117
                          Re: Franchise Budget Question

                          So, lets say that you profit 1 million a week for 26 weeks. Does that mean that you cannot spend more than 26 million on players the coming offseason? No matter how much budget room that you show? That seems to be badly, badly broken.
                          Anyone who claims to be a fan of two teams in the same pro sport is actually a fan of none.

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                          • countryboy
                            Growing pains
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 52736

                            #118
                            Re: Franchise Budget Question

                            Originally posted by Unlucky 13
                            So, lets say that you profit 1 million a week for 26 weeks. Does that mean that you cannot spend more than 26 million on players the coming offseason? No matter how much budget room that you show? That seems to be badly, badly broken.
                            Not sure I'm understanding what you're asking.

                            The amount it shows for your weekly cash flow, you take that amount and multiply it by 26 and that is your remaining budget, or very close to it.
                            I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                            I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                            • coach422001
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 1492

                              #119
                              Re: Franchise Budget Question

                              Originally posted by countryboy
                              Not sure I'm understanding what you're asking.

                              The amount it shows for your weekly cash flow, you take that amount and multiply it by 26 and that is your remaining budget, or very close to it.
                              Almost all my teams had in-season profit per week of < 1 million but had plenty of money (save the Red Sox and Astros) to spend in free agency and re-signs. Doesn't the off-season free agent window show you what your budget is before and what it is after the offer you're showing, in both per week and absolute budget? The one thing I haven't come across is the situation where at the end of the season a team has about 5 million in the bank (i.e. they were losing money per week during the year). That I can see having a big impact on what the final number for off season spend could be. So currently my Astros are -18K per week. So the amount the owner will give from the bank portion is going to be minimal compared to other teams. Someone else had just about worked out the formula in one of the other threads on this topic, but suffice to say that I would need to start slashing the 'stros budget to get a better off season budget

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                              • Unlucky 13
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 1707

                                #120
                                Re: Franchise Budget Question

                                Originally posted by countryboy
                                Not sure I'm understanding what you're asking.

                                The amount it shows for your weekly cash flow, you take that amount and multiply it by 26 and that is your remaining budget, or very close to it.
                                Well, lets say that at the start in one year of my franchise, I have a budget of 200 million dollars.

                                At the trading deadline at the end of July, I trade away players with contracts totalling 80 million dollars, and don't add any large ones. (just prospects)

                                To me, logically, that means that I should go into the following offseason with at least 80 million in budget space. Regardless of how much profit my team has made weekly. That's pretty much how it always worked in previous versions. 80 million that I can spend signing free agents from other teams or extending my own guys.

                                However, it doesn't seem like that is the case now. Does that make sense?
                                Anyone who claims to be a fan of two teams in the same pro sport is actually a fan of none.

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