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  • underdog13
    MVP
    • Apr 2012
    • 3222

    #16
    Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

    The gameplay is 17 was pretty poor.

    The gameplay is practically perfect for a video game.

    I love all the gameplay changes they have made and also hate practically all the " game mode" decisions they've made.

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    • HighCmpPct
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      • Oct 2011
      • 3595

      #17
      Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

      Originally posted by underdog13
      The gameplay is 17 was pretty poor.

      The gameplay is practically perfect for a video game.

      I love all the gameplay changes they have made and also hate practically all the " game mode" decisions they've made.

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      Idk that I agree it was pretty poor, I absolutely loved 17, I mean you can't go back to it after 18 but it was still a damn good game.

      I'm kinda curious about the game modes changes you don't like. Is it season mode being gone?

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      • underdog13
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        • Apr 2012
        • 3222

        #18
        Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

        Originally posted by HighCmpPct
        Idk that I agree it was pretty poor, I absolutely loved 17, I mean you can't go back to it after 18 but it was still a damn good game.

        I'm kinda curious about the game modes changes you don't like. Is it season mode being gone?
        To me the gameplay just wasn't balanced at all. Which I think is very important, one reason I still play Madden 04. It really shined in a few areas but was bad in other areas. That's due to happen when you bring in large new features like the new ball physics.

        Yeah season mode was a huge blow, I spent about half my time in that mode and the other half in rtts.

        That was big but also some of the small things they have removed. Like I used to be able to attach a profile to a rtts save. Now every time I want to load up a different rtts save I have to set a new default profile or else I'll be playing with different settings. Not very intuitive. Why did they remove it? No idea.

        I used to be able to consider the series very customizable and really allow you to play the way you wanted to. That isn't a very accurate statement anymore in my opinion.

        It's still a good game, and the gameplay is as best as ever. But I was able to have the time of my life playing games a decade ago, so gameplay has never been the most important thing.

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        • LowerWolf
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          • Jun 2006
          • 12268

          #19
          Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

          If 18 had Season mode it would be perfect.

          As it is, it’s still pretty dang good. The gameplay is so much better in 18. And I liked 17 a lot.

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          • Impetuous65
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            • Feb 2015
            • 1451

            #20
            Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

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            • AUTiger1
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              • Oct 2008
              • 2413

              #21
              Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

              Game is so much better. The ball physics on this year's game are amazing!
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              • bkrich83
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                • Jul 2002
                • 71577

                #22
                Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

                Originally posted by HighCmpPct
                They are literally night and day man.

                There's no way to go back to 17 after playing 18, and i loved 17 it was the first year I played 162+ game chise. But it holds no candle to 18.

                Anybody saying that they are similar, doesn't really know these games. They just see baseball and go oh it's the same.

                But that's the only thing 17 and 18 have in common. They are both baseball games, everything else is different.


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                • My993C2
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                  • Sep 2012
                  • 1588

                  #23
                  Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

                  MLB 18 is more polished (I love the MLB stadium scapes played between innings when playing the full broadcast presentation mode) and some of the game play improvements are noticeable. However there are many aspects of MLB 18 that work exactly the same as MLB 17 as well as the earlier versions because the two games share common code. I certainly don't expect SDS to rewrite the game every year. They just slowly evolve it year after year. Now there are certain aspects of MLB 18 RTTS that are driving me crazy. But I can't see myself going back to MLB 17 for RTTS. The game is still installed on my PS4 just in case I do need to go back. But chances are very strong that I am in with MLB 18 until the very end, until MLB 19 is released?

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                  • Chai2112
                    Pro
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 574

                    #24
                    Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

                    I am enjoying reading this thread, as I am still on the fence about buying this game. I keep going to the PS store and hovering over the "buy" button, but then go out. My main concern is whether I will end up getting bored of the game in a couple months, as I have done the past few years. I've been an avid The Show player since 2006, and I only do Franchise. For some reason, the past few years, the games grow repetitive and stale and I lose interest after a few months. I don't know if it's because there is just a lack of immersion and variety or what.

                    I just played a few games in a new Franchise in 2017, and they were fun. But still there is something lacking. Perhaps it's because I fiddled with the sliders but never got to realistic results (still way too many strikeouts by my pitchers and not enough walks on either side).

                    My questions are:
                    1) Is there a noticeable difference between elite players and regular players in 2018?
                    2) I've read people talking about how fielding is so much better. I always thought the fielding in 2017 was great. How is it better in 2018?
                    3) Are people able to get realistic results (i.e., walks on both sides of the ball, a lot of Ks with aces but less so with worse pitchers, hit variety, game score variety, etc.)? If so, which slider sets do you use?

                    Thanks!

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                    • CSUFresnoClassof2011
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                      • Jul 2013
                      • 440

                      #25
                      Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

                      [QUOTE=Chai2112;2049310954]
                      I've read people talking about how fielding is so much better. I always thought the fielding in 2017 was great. How is it better in 2018?

                      [\QUOTE]

                      I’ve seen a lot of people complaining about the fielding. Most of the errors I’ve seen have been with players with low fielding ratings & people just taking bad angles on ground balls. I’m pretty sure that SDS said in one their streams that fielding would be a bigger deal this year.


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                      • Armor and Sword
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                        • Sep 2010
                        • 21790

                        #26
                        Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

                        Originally posted by countryboy
                        Hitting
                        Pitching
                        Fielding
                        Presentation
                        Commentary
                        Ball Physics
                        Weather

                        Are all substantially better in ‘18.


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                        As someone who played 17 till March 22nd 2018......I endorse this post.

                        18 is the pinnacle of the series. I am simply blown away how great the game plays this year. And the presentation upgrades are beautiful. Just fantastic. I played an overcast night game in Fenway last night.....just stunning.
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                        • Chai2112
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                          • Mar 2007
                          • 574

                          #27
                          Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

                          Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                          As someone who played 17 till March 22nd 2018......I endorse this post.

                          18 is the pinnacle of the series. I am simply blown away how great the game plays this year. And the presentation upgrades are beautiful. Just fantastic. I played an overcast night game in Fenway last night.....just stunning.
                          You're definitely making me want to take the plunge. Presentation has always been lacking for me. When they added the two city scenes in 2017, it was great, but quickly grew repetitive. And I always wished they would give us the ability to look all around the stadium/sky by pushing L3 as a batter, instead of being limited to just viewing from 3rd base to 1st base. I know that's not in, but I'm hoping the other stadium scenes are a welcome addition.

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                          • da_centa_fielda
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                            • Jun 2007
                            • 324

                            #28
                            Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

                            I rented 18 over the weekend to get a first hand feel of the game because I wasn't seeing much of a difference from all the videos I've been watching.

                            The game is improved in all areas. The best and most notable improvement is:

                            Hitting - Swings look much more natural. You can see the improved ball physics as the ball comes off the bat. Especially on line drives back up the middle.

                            Partly cloudy day games in HDR are much more realistic looking.

                            Other improvements are so subtle that it doesn't feel worth $60 after playing so much of last year's game.

                            The presentation aspect is overhyped by alot. Yes there are some new cutscenes and some replays finally play at normal speed. But those cutscenes will get old fast like cutscenes in sports games always do. Plus to even enjoy them you have to just sit there and wait instead of actually playing. As time passes, more and more people will just skip them anyway.

                            RTTS is so bad this year that I don't even want to play it anymore. You don't have the same control of developing your player like you used to

                            Franchise is just a menu overhaul. That's pretty much it. It's clear this year's game was more of a DD update.

                            I want to buy the game eventually because it is a well put together game and I enjoy playing the latest and best baseball simulation available. But after a few days with it, I can't justify spending more than $40 on it.

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                            • esdot404
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                              • Mar 2008
                              • 183

                              #29
                              Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

                              Areas where I see differences from 17 to 18.
                              Fielding, hitting, pitch speeds, pci, graphics (lighting/stadiums, etc)

                              I think 17 was a solid game. The biggest issue I saw with 17 was the hitting in terms of opposite field power/contact, especially online. I think they somewhat fixed that issue in 18, but they lowered the pitch speeds online causing people to turn on fastballs now. I personally think the pitching online has taken a big drop. There is way to much contact now, fouling off pitches in dirt, way outside zone, etc. The art of being able to pitch corners and high and have swings and misses online are lower than 17. Now, it could be different for some, but I am certainly seeing lower K numbers with good pitchers (gold) in DD than anything. Against the CPU, the game plays nicely in 18 with better graphics, and if you play with the dynamic difficulty, it will get to a nice setting for each specific player gameplay wise.

                              Additionally, the pci feedback/placement/movement needs to be explained. I am seeing a lot of twitter feeds/video links showing PCI movement and location differently than when the swing was taken (under or above ball) causing for weak contact. Now I think it has to do with swing timing (early/late) and that adds some of the extra movement, but that is just me guessing.

                              Fielding - it is way better IMO, but, there are still some routine plays and situations that fielders are taking way too much time to make a throw.

                              Pitching animations-love that they are doing more in this area and making pitchers look a lot more lifelike. In 17, all pitching arms at delivery looked stiff and similar. Immediate upgrade with the new pitching motions/delivery/release points.

                              I agree with the above posts about presentation! I am having a blast with 18 and I think it overall plays very well. Disappointing they took season mode off, but, it is what it is.
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                              • KnightTemplar
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                                • Feb 2017
                                • 3282

                                #30
                                Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

                                Originally posted by da_centa_fielda

                                The presentation aspect is overhyped by alot. Yes there are some new cutscenes and some replays finally play at normal speed. But those cutscenes will get old fast like cutscenes in sports games always do. Plus to even enjoy them you have to just sit there and wait instead of actually playing. As time passes, more and more people will just skip them anyway.
                                Man, big disagreement here. You need more than just a few games. I've been (as well as many) clamoring for this and I sit and enjoy it immensely. Why else would we want this in the game. Do I occasionally hit X, sure, but as a lover of the game I watch the cut scenes. I'm in no rush most of the time. Now, if somebody wants fast play, fine, but to say this is over hyped? We really disagree with this especially if your reasoning is you want to "actually play". This lack of presentation is what made the game SO stale for the last few years.

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