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  • Chai2112
    Pro
    • Mar 2007
    • 574

    #31
    Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

    Originally posted by KnightTemplar
    Man, big disagreement here. You need more than just a few games. I've been (as well as many) clamoring for this and I sit and enjoy it immensely. Why else would we want this in the game. Do I occasionally hit X, sure, but as a lover of the game I watch the cut scenes. I'm in no rush most of the time. Now, if somebody wants fast play, fine, but to say this is over hyped? We really disagree with this especially if your reasoning is you want to "actually play". This lack of presentation is what made the game SO stale for the last few years.
    Interesting. I always played 17 on fast play with quick counts because I just didn't have an hour to devote to each game. Are you saying we would need to play on full broadcast to see all the new cut scenes? If so, are they easy and quick to skip by?

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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52731

      #32
      Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

      Originally posted by Chai2112
      Interesting. I always played 17 on fast play with quick counts because I just didn't have an hour to devote to each game. Are you saying we would need to play on full broadcast to see all the new cut scenes? If so, are they easy and quick to skip by?


      Yes just press x to skip


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      • KnightTemplar
        MVP
        • Feb 2017
        • 3282

        #33
        Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

        Originally posted by Chai2112
        Interesting. I always played 17 on fast play with quick counts because I just didn't have an hour to devote to each game. Are you saying we would need to play on full broadcast to see all the new cut scenes? If so, are they easy and quick to skip by?
        Yes, and, like you, love rhe quick counts.

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        • EnigmaNemesis
          Animal Liberation
          • Apr 2006
          • 12216

          #34
          Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

          Let's put it this way. '18 got me addicted to this game/series again (the way '06-'09 did), where I played '14 sparsely, never got '15, played '16 sparsely, never got '17, but this one man, my goodness!

          I feel just as into it, like I did when '08/'09 started the whole evolution of the series. I cannot go a day without playing at least 1 game now, and I have yet to dive into the new revamped RTTS (my favorite mode)!

          It is the best looking and playing version of the game (from top to bottom) they have ever done, by far! Had a friend over, she walked by my TV heading into the kitchen, and she goes, "That is the game? I thought you were watching an actual broadcast on TV at first!"

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          • underdog13
            MVP
            • Apr 2012
            • 3222

            #35
            Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

            Originally posted by esdot404

            Additionally, the pci feedback/placement/movement needs to be explained. I am seeing a lot of twitter feeds/video links showing PCI movement and location differently than when the swing was taken (under or above ball) causing for weak contact. Now I think it has to do with swing timing (early/late) and that adds some of the extra movement, but that is just me guessing.
            Yeah that's exactly how it works. Been like that for a while.

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            • Bochte23
              Banned
              • Mar 2018
              • 114

              #36
              Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

              18 has better animations on swings, but I can't stand the added on base celebrations and the home run cam. That idiotic green rainbow following the ball on some replays. Very arcadey. It's still way too buggy as well. Not much else is different. Ball off the bat was better in 17. Most of the time you knew when you hit one out, on 18 , the ball floats a lot longer. Crowd reactions, IMO, are awful. There is a delay to it, and most of the time crowd cheers just as hard for the away team. Oh boy , the outfielder errors. Don't even know where to start with that one. Convoluted "stance creator". I only play Exhibition vs cpu
              Last edited by Bochte23; 04-09-2018, 04:13 PM.

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              • Bunselpower32
                Pro
                • Jul 2012
                • 947

                #37
                Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

                Well I see lots of hyperbolic opinions that range from "This is the greatest baseball game ever made" (it's not) to "This is literally '17 with Judge on the Cover" (it's not). As usual, the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

                My 2 cents? It's a definite upgrade, but there are some lingering issues. It isn't the widest gap between releases, but it isn't the smallest either.

                -Certain animations that should have been purged years ago persist (the really soft liner to a guy's left that floats for at least 2 seconds and he never reacts to name one)

                -Default timing windows funnel everything toward opposite/center field, but not as bad as last year.

                +Batting is smoother and there are more foul tips/balls fouled back instead of a flare party like last year.

                +Ball physics seem very good. Last year they had trouble with the wind and with spin so they nerfed it, and it took away the boomerang line drive. This year the ball doesn't always go straight into the gap (in fact it seldom does).

                ~Crowd is better and not better. They are deafening during kinda pedestrian situations and they still don't always erupt when an inning ends on a K (TV broadcast cuts in) BUT they are more lively and they react well a lot of the time. Still haven't seen a lot of low sellers yet but generally play DD until some pitch edit rosters come out for Franchise.

                +Ball getting away from the catcher is fixed.

                -Some fielding animations still suck.

                +Better tagging (real quick at second base)

                ++There is occasion to dive now. Last year I don't think I dove on a play one time because I didn't have to, but this year I've already made several diving plays that mattered.

                +DD has virtually everything available through offline play. If you're not an online player like me but like to play DD and collect every once in a while, all of the programs are achievable offline.

                Overall, the smoother hitting, better tagging, catcher fixes, and way better ball physics make it a good buy for me.

                Still waiting for gesture pitching and individual position ratings, but alas, I'll make do.
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                • ElvisP41174
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2018
                  • 94

                  #38
                  Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

                  Originally posted by Bochte23
                  18 has better animations on swings, but I can't stand the added on base celebrations and the home run cam. That idiotic green rainbow following the ball on some replays. Very arcadey. It's still way too buggy as well. Not much else is different. Ball off the bat was better in 17. Most of the time you knew when you hit one out, on 18 , the ball floats a lot longer. Crowd reactions, IMO, are awful. There is a delay to it, and most of the time crowd cheers just as hard for the away team. Oh boy , the outfielder errors. Don't even know where to start with that one. Convoluted "stance creator". I only play Exhibition vs cpu

                  Is there anyway you can turn off the home run camera?

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                  • countryboy
                    Growing pains
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 52731

                    #39
                    Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

                    Originally posted by ElvisP41174
                    Is there anyway you can turn off the home run camera?
                    Unfortunately there is not.
                    Last edited by countryboy; 04-10-2018, 10:32 AM. Reason: missing words
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                    • Caulfield
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 10986

                      #40
                      Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

                      Originally posted by countryboy
                      Unfortunately there is not.
                      See! I knew 18 was the same as 17.


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                      • ElvisP41174
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2018
                        • 94

                        #41
                        Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

                        Originally posted by Bunselpower32
                        Well I see lots of hyperbolic opinions that range from "This is the greatest baseball game ever made" (it's not) to "This is literally '17 with Judge on the Cover" (it's not). As usual, the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

                        My 2 cents? It's a definite upgrade, but there are some lingering issues. It isn't the widest gap between releases, but it isn't the smallest either.

                        -Certain animations that should have been purged years ago persist (the really soft liner to a guy's left that floats for at least 2 seconds and he never reacts to name one)

                        -Default timing windows funnel everything toward opposite/center field, but not as bad as last year.

                        +Batting is smoother and there are more foul tips/balls fouled back instead of a flare party like last year.

                        +Ball physics seem very good. Last year they had trouble with the wind and with spin so they nerfed it, and it took away the boomerang line drive. This year the ball doesn't always go straight into the gap (in fact it seldom does).

                        ~Crowd is better and not better. They are deafening during kinda pedestrian situations and they still don't always erupt when an inning ends on a K (TV broadcast cuts in) BUT they are more lively and they react well a lot of the time. Still haven't seen a lot of low sellers yet but generally play DD until some pitch edit rosters come out for Franchise.

                        +Ball getting away from the catcher is fixed.

                        -Some fielding animations still suck.

                        +Better tagging (real quick at second base)

                        ++There is occasion to dive now. Last year I don't think I dove on a play one time because I didn't have to, but this year I've already made several diving plays that mattered.

                        +DD has virtually everything available through offline play. If you're not an online player like me but like to play DD and collect every once in a while, all of the programs are achievable offline.

                        Overall, the smoother hitting, better tagging, catcher fixes, and way better ball physics make it a good buy for me.

                        Still waiting for gesture pitching and individual position ratings, but alas, I'll make do.

                        What is it with everyone on this site. It seems like everyone review is all over the place
                        Some people say it's way better then 18 and some people say 18 sucks and it's arcadey. I was on the fence to buy because I played a few innings over my buddies. Should I just stick with 17? I see alot of complaints threaded popping up all over this site.

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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52731

                          #42
                          Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

                          Originally posted by ElvisP41174
                          What is it with everyone on this site. It seems like everyone review is all over the place
                          Some people say it's way better then 18 and some people say 18 sucks and it's arcadey. I was on the fence to buy because I played a few innings over my buddies. Should I just stick with 17? I see alot of complaints threaded popping up all over this site.
                          For someone on the fence about buying or not, you sure have a lot of confirmed opinions about the game.

                          I thought you weren't getting '18, because it was the same game as '17 and anyone who bought it "got duped"?

                          If you're on the fence still, why not go back to your buddy's house and play some more then you can make up your own mind as to whether to buy or not instead of reading reviews that are all over the place?
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                          • a bit outside
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2017
                            • 187

                            #43
                            Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

                            Originally posted by ElvisP41174
                            What is it with everyone on this site. It seems like everyone review is all over the place
                            Some people say it's way better then 18 and some people say 18 sucks and it's arcadey. I was on the fence to buy because I played a few innings over my buddies. Should I just stick with 17? I see alot of complaints threaded popping up all over this site.
                            What is with someone that complains about the game as much as you and you don’t even own it? But the pitchers only throw strikes........huh?

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                            • countryboy
                              Growing pains
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 52731

                              #44
                              Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

                              Originally posted by a bit outside
                              What is with someone that complains about the game as much as you and you don’t even own it? But the pitchers only throw strikes........huh?
                              He played at a buddy's house.
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                              • Bunselpower32
                                Pro
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 947

                                #45
                                Re: Difference between MLB 17 vs MLB 18

                                Originally posted by ElvisP41174
                                What is it with everyone on this site. It seems like everyone review is all over the place
                                Some people say it's way better then 18 and some people say 18 sucks and it's arcadey. I was on the fence to buy because I played a few innings over my buddies. Should I just stick with 17? I see alot of complaints threaded popping up all over this site.
                                Everyone is all over the place because everyone sees the game through a different lens. Some love The Show and no matter what, every year's game should be enshrined in the Smithsonian. Others will complain if you put neural controllers on MLB players and sat in a ballpark that it wasn't real enough. If you're judging whether or not to buy this game based on complaint threads, you'll never buy it, as they are rampant.

                                Some, like myself, lie in the middle. I was playing baseball and baseball video games long before The Show existed, and have somewhat of a sense of perspective of features this game has that are great and things that are way behind games from 10 years ago (and there are several of each).

                                If you're looking for an opinion, unless you're fed up with 17 (as I kinda was), I would just wait for a sale (or find a used copy from one of those annoyed players) and keep playing 17. One will pop up probably mid summer, and you'll be able to get the game with most of the gameplay patches already out and a full bevy of roster selections if you're an offline player (OSFM Hybrid and TrueSim are good bets).

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