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  • Charvalos
    Rookie
    • Oct 2016
    • 310

    #1

    Bug at bat - The ball goes through the bat

    I already reported this to the bug website but, I'm the only one who has this problem ?









    All of these images come from the same match and, tbh, for me, it's just a game breaking. When you're supposed to hit but the ball goes through the bat, well, it's kinda annoying.
  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52731

    #2
    Re: Bug at bat - The ball goes through the bat

    This has been brought up before with other games in the series.

    The ball isn't going through the bat in live gameplay.

    I don't know how to technically explain it, but basically you are seeing this in replays because of how they are compressed or something along those lines.

    Maybe someone else will be able to explain why you see this in replays, but again it's not happening during actual gameplay.
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    • Will I Am
      Pro
      • Nov 2013
      • 928

      #3
      Re: Bug at bat - The ball goes through the bat

      This is what happens when the game dictates a K is needed, ball goes through bat.

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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52731

        #4
        Re: Bug at bat - The ball goes through the bat

        Originally posted by Will I Am
        This is what happens when the game dictates a K is needed, ball goes through bat.
        Please don't do this.

        We don't need more conspiracy/scripting theories.

        This "issue" has been brought up before on the forums and it was explained that it has to do with how the game handles replays and the missing of frames or something along those lines.
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        • nomo17k
          Permanently Banned
          • Feb 2011
          • 5735

          #5
          Re: Bug at bat - The ball goes through the bat

          It's just one of those things where the visuals rendered by the game are not exactly one-to-one with what the game is actually making happen.

          I believe collision with the stadium walls and such may actually be rendered pretty accurately, since the game likely uses the stadium model to detect whether the collision happened or not.

          However, bat/ball contact involves a very complicated physics that the game internally tries to model as best as it can, but as graphics the movement and physics cannot fully accurately rendered, since graphics simply cannot model near infinite amount of ways things can move/change.
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          • Bochte23
            Banned
            • Mar 2018
            • 114

            #6
            Re: Bug at bat - The ball goes through the bat

            Originally posted by Will I Am
            This is what happens when the game dictates a K is needed, ball goes through bat.
            no scripting huh.

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            • countryboy
              Growing pains
              • Sep 2003
              • 52731

              #7
              Re: Bug at bat - The ball goes through the bat

              Originally posted by Bochte23
              no scripting huh.
              Yep no scripting.
              I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

              I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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              • KnightTemplar
                MVP
                • Feb 2017
                • 3282

                #8
                Re: Bug at bat - The ball goes through the bat

                Originally posted by Will I Am
                This is what happens when the game dictates a K is needed, ball goes through bat.
                Just curious re the ‘scripted’ game people and the ‘comeback’ code people. Are you wasting your time with the game if this is actually programmed into the game?

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                • MLB14
                  Pro
                  • May 2014
                  • 636

                  #9
                  Re: Bug at bat - The ball goes through the bat

                  Originally posted by countryboy
                  Please don't do this.

                  We don't need more conspiracy/scripting theories.

                  This "issue" has been brought up before on the forums and it was explained that it has to do with how the game handles replays and the missing of frames or something along those lines.
                  What he said is true though. You'd have to understand how game logic is coded to fully realize it.
                  Do it. (Release The Show for PC)

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                  • countryboy
                    Growing pains
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 52731

                    #10
                    Re: Bug at bat - The ball goes through the bat

                    Originally posted by MLB14
                    What he said is true though. You'd have to understand how game logic is coded to fully realize it.


                    Ok


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                    I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                    I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                    • underdog13
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 3222

                      #11
                      Re: Bug at bat - The ball goes through the bat

                      Originally posted by MLB14
                      What he said is true though. You'd have to understand how game logic is coded to fully realize it.
                      This is completely laughable, organic comebacks happen just from playing enough games.

                      Just because some racing games use code to keep things close, doesn't mean that this game or other sports games do.

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                      • Drty_Windshield
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2018
                        • 880

                        #12
                        Re: Bug at bat - The ball goes through the bat

                        This is a real picture in slow motion. Crazy huh?

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                        • Padgoi
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 1873

                          #13
                          Re: Bug at bat - The ball goes through the bat

                          Originally posted by underdog13
                          This is completely laughable, organic comebacks happen just from playing enough games.

                          Just because some racing games use code to keep things close, doesn't mean that this game or other sports games do.

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                          I actually spoke to a developer regarding this topic and he admitted that while there is absolutely no scripting in the code whatsoever, he too has experienced these comebacks and has no idea what's causing them to happen.

                          My point is this - we've all seen the CPU make absurd comebacks in this game and it literally happens on a regular basis. When I say regular, I mean literally almost (ALMOST) every single game. Just two days ago, I was up 5-1 in the ninth with Chapman pitching. Single, error, double, home run later, it's 5-5. Friend of mine on the exact same day, up 5-2 in the ninth. Error, bean ball, single, single and it's 5-4. You guys can say organic comebacks happen in baseball and my all means, you're right, they do. The thing with the game is they happen ALL THE TIME, almost every game. That's what we complain about. So while "scripting" per se may not be in the code, there is clearly SOMETHING going on (and the developer agrees with this) that is causing this to happen regularly.

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                          • MLB14
                            Pro
                            • May 2014
                            • 636

                            #14
                            Re: Bug at bat - The ball goes through the bat

                            Originally posted by countryboy
                            Ok


                            Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
                            It's OK to be wrong sometimes. Explain your stance on the clipping and I'll explain mine now.

                            When a player presses the swing button lots of numbers are considered (attributes) and ran through equations to determine the contact result and sometimes, no matter what, the player will not make contact. It's how the game keeps stats realistic (strikeouts, etc) for the MLB player batting and pitching, but yea, I'm wrong.

                            You're right with that tired replay compression excuse that you can't even explain.
                            Do it. (Release The Show for PC)

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                            • countryboy
                              Growing pains
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 52731

                              #15
                              Re: Bug at bat - The ball goes through the bat

                              Originally posted by Padgoi
                              I actually spoke to a developer regarding this topic and he admitted that while there is absolutely no scripting in the code whatsoever, he too has experienced these comebacks and has no idea what's causing them to happen.
                              Care to share which developer?
                              I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                              I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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