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  • KBLover
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2009
    • 12172

    #181
    Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

    Originally posted by ericjwm
    The power has been toned WAY down!
    This I have not seen.

    My HR/G rate is still 1.4 HR per 35 PA, HR/H rate at 13.5, HR/FB rate at 12.7% (MLB average 13%) across all my franchises.

    Pretty much where it always was and reasonable given one of my teams is the Red Sox with no real slugger (MLB17 carryover so no J.D. Martinez - this team's biggest power threat is Hosmer/Devers with 70's Power).

    Red Sox have the lowest - line drive types at Fenway. Makes sense to me. My fantasy Rockies (MLB18) have the highest. Coors + Gallo + Sano - makes sense to me.

    Ancient MLB14-started Marlins are up there - but that team has a middle of the other that can slug (91 Power, 99 Power, 90 Power vs RHP) and a couple hitters at 70 power. So 5 guys with some pop. Makes sense to me.

    So I think the power is still there. I haven't had to adjust anything sliders or approach-wise after the patch.

    I play every game and track every game's stats to see objectively where I am.
    Last edited by KBLover; 05-21-2018, 12:22 PM.
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    • Jsmitty
      Rookie
      • Feb 2015
      • 168

      #182
      Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

      Can they add a pitch speed increase in a patch or do we have to wait for 2019? Chapman hit 105 3 or 4 years ago and now Hicks has done it again. Also with a 2 seam fastball. Also 95-98mph sinker is unacceptable as well as Thor has been throwing his 99-100mph before maybe even 101 last year. It’s time to hit the small things. It’s a game first. Second it’s supposed to be a real simulation. Has to happen!


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      • MatrixTN
        MVP
        • Mar 2009
        • 1857

        #183
        Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

        Originally posted by LowerWolf
        Every time I load the game, I get prompted for the live roster update. It's like it's not saving it. Is that happening for anyone else? Never had that happen prior to 1.09.

        Same with me - has anyone besides me submitted a report on TSN? I've even deleted/re-saved it, same deal every time I boot up.

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        • Bullit
          Bacon is Better
          • Aug 2009
          • 5004

          #184
          Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

          Originally posted by crques
          Fair enough. I wish I had more time for more of a sample size, but 5 games is all I currently have to go on. I've just noticed a different feel to the game in all 5 of those games. Maybe after 5 or 10 more I will feel differently. Just saying what I'm seeing and feeling at this time. Still a great game, just liked it better before the last patch. To be fair, I never said "I've played 5 games since the patch and it sucks now." I just stated some of the things I'm seeing or noticing that are different and that its not a good thing for me.
          This wasn't meant to be aimed at any one person and was certainly not an attack. I meant it more as a generalization of the attitude held by quite a crowd here on OS. We all know who they are and I don't believe you are one of them. I am just as guilty on the other side of generalization in that I tend to not give enough credit to those that do see these problems. But I also truly believe that Baseball is a game of streaks and averages.

          To hit .280 you have missed 72 out of 100 times. This is not only a game of inches it is a game of failure. Yes we all know this, but I think we loose sight of this when playing a video game. This is also why this year I quit playing as MY team in franchise. I was becoming obsessed with playing the way my team was doing. If I could not perform as well as the real players I was getting upset and not having fun at all. Since I put forth my effort into a rebuild, a first for me in The Show, with the Padres and man I can't tell you how much fun I am having now. It is like a whole new game.
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          My heart and soul hurt for your lost presence in my life.

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          • taterskin
            Pro
            • Jul 2008
            • 590

            #185
            Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

            Originally posted by Bullit
            This wasn't meant to be aimed at any one person and was certainly not an attack. I meant it more as a generalization of the attitude held by quite a crowd here on OS. We all know who they are and I don't believe you are one of them. I am just as guilty on the other side of generalization in that I tend to not give enough credit to those that do see these problems. But I also truly believe that Baseball is a game of streaks and averages.

            To hit .280 you have missed 72 out of 100 times. This is not only a game of inches it is a game of failure. Yes we all know this, but I think we loose sight of this when playing a video game. This is also why this year I quit playing as MY team in franchise. I was becoming obsessed with playing the way my team was doing. If I could not perform as well as the real players I was getting upset and not having fun at all. Since I put forth my effort into a rebuild, a first for me in The Show, with the Padres and man I can't tell you how much fun I am having now. It is like a whole new game.
            "Know what the difference between hitting .250 and .300 is? It's 25 hits. 25 hits in 500 at bats is 50 points, okay? There's 6 months in a season, that's about 25 weeks. That means if you get just one extra flare a week - just one - a gorp... you get a groundball, you get a groundball with eyes... you get a dying quail, just one more dying quail a week... and you're in Yankee Stadium."
            -- Crash Davis

            Couldn't resist.... you're post took me to this exact moment with Crash Davis.

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            • DJ
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2003
              • 17756

              #186
              Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

              No change to power output from me or the CPU since the patch.

              Saw a great bloop single the other day where the 2B raced back to try and catch the ball and it fell just out of his reach, all while the RF was charging in to make a play on the ball, until he veered off course to avoid a collision. Looks so good and realistic.
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              • bcruise
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2004
                • 23274

                #187
                Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

                I just walked 11 times on, for all practical purposes, default legend hitting. Fielder speed is down two clicks but that doesn't affect the pitching.

                The thing is, it was completely believable because it was the Marlins (and mostly their bullpen) allowing the walks.

                Also stole 2 bases with two guys (Happ and Baez) with less than 40 stealing ability. It's all about picking the right moments (and, for guys like that with low steal ratings, risking the extra step lead past the default that might get you picked off).

                I'm trying to see and understand the problems people are having. I just can't.

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                • Armor and Sword
                  The Lama
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 21790

                  #188
                  Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

                  Originally posted by bcruise
                  I just walked 11 times on, for all practical purposes, default legend hitting. Fielder speed is down two clicks but that doesn't affect the pitching.

                  The thing is, it was completely believable because it was the Marlins (and mostly their bullpen) allowing the walks.

                  Also stole 2 bases with two guys (Happ and Baez) with less than 40 stealing ability. It's all about picking the right moments (and, for guys like that with low steal ratings, risking the extra step lead past the default that might get you picked off).

                  I'm trying to see and understand the problems people are having. I just can't.
                  Stealing is so freaking good this year. I do not pre-load my steals. I manually jump. It is the only way (unless you want to pull off a double steal). You absolutely have to work the pitcher, see his move, see if he is slide stepping, anticipate the front foot lifting and taking off just before the moment he actually lifts his front foot. And that is with real good base swipers. I am getting some sick jumps this year and it feels so good. They really improved the art of stealing and it is not automatic like it used to be.

                  Situations!!! Counts, what pitch they are throwing, the catcher he has, his pick-off ratings (meaning the pickoff artist player quirk) so much going on.

                  Also not seeing all these problems. Right there with you. Game has never been better.

                  Edit - you can actually manual jump for a double steal as well. Just pull back and release and both will jump at the same time (but how good depends on ratings and your timing).
                  Last edited by Armor and Sword; 05-21-2018, 03:51 PM.
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                  • BrianMcNulty11
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 194

                    #189
                    Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

                    I've made the switch from manual fielding to auto. Still using throw meter too. Game is 1,000x better for me this way. I think manual fielding is just buggy maybe? I dunno either way the game is playing way better after I switched


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                    • Armor and Sword
                      The Lama
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 21790

                      #190
                      Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

                      Originally posted by BrianMcNulty11
                      I've made the switch from manual fielding to auto. Still using throw meter too. Game is 1,000x better for me this way. I think manual fielding is just buggy maybe? I dunno either way the game is playing way better after I switched


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                      • KnightTemplar
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2017
                        • 3282

                        #191
                        Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

                        Originally posted by BrianMcNulty11
                        I've made the switch from manual fielding to auto. Still using throw meter too. Game is 1,000x better for me this way. I think manual fielding is just buggy maybe? I dunno either way the game is playing way better after I switched


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                        You have to be quick and precise on manual fielding, not much room for error. Auto with manual throw (no meter) is the only way I play. I’ve tried manual fielding, but all it will do, for me, is if I make the tiniest mistake
                        it can ruin an entire inning. Heck, I don’t use hot/cold zones, ball fade off, as much junk removed from the screen as possible, pitch on classic, no meters in sight.

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                        • KBLover
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 12172

                          #192
                          Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

                          Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                          Stealing is so freaking good this year. I do not pre-load my steals. I manually jump. It is the only way (unless you want to pull off a double steal). You absolutely have to work the pitcher, see his move, see if he is slide stepping, anticipate the front foot lifting and taking off just before the moment he actually lifts his front foot. And that is with real good base swipers. I am getting some sick jumps this year and it feels so good. They really improved the art of stealing and it is not automatic like it used to be.
                          I like pre-loading steals. Puts some more emphasis on stealing ability as it seems to help govern their jumps. Plus, I use auto baserunning so guys will go on their own anyway.

                          I agree with the rest, both getting and preventing steals.
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                          • bcruise
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 23274

                            #193
                            Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

                            Originally posted by KnightTemplar
                            You have to be quick and precise on manual fielding, not much room for error. Auto with manual throw (no meter) is the only way I play. I’ve tried manual fielding, but all it will do, for me, is if I make the tiniest mistake
                            it can ruin an entire inning. Heck, I don’t use hot/cold zones, ball fade off, as much junk removed from the screen as possible, pitch on classic, no meters in sight.
                            I use a few visual aids when I'm playing seriously (like I was doing in my stream today), but only enough to account for the fact that you really need to know exactly what your players' capabilities are and where you want to locate your pitches (because they usually don't end up there) to play on legend effectively. I do use manual fielding but with Analog throwing (just a preference), and for hitting I have the zone PCI on to give me a visual representation of the batter's hitting skill. For pitching I have the Classic aiming cursor on, because I have to often aim precisely in areas off the plate otherwise I get hammered - and the pitches usually come back to the corners anyway.

                            While I was one-off testing the settings I was using I did have the swing/pitch info on, but now that I've all but locked those settings in I've turned it off - it just gets me overthinking about PCI location too much, which is a liability with the way I hit (rarely moving the PCI off of a pre-determined location except on 2 strikes). Plus there's nothing like seeing the umpire ring up a batter without being told immediately that it was a ball or strike.

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                            • KBLover
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 12172

                              #194
                              Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

                              Originally posted by bcruise
                              I just walked 11 times on, for all practical purposes, default legend hitting. Fielder speed is down two clicks but that doesn't affect the pitching.

                              The thing is, it was completely believable because it was the Marlins (and mostly their bullpen) allowing the walks.

                              After seen the way I got pitched on legend hitting with the sliders I was using for HoF hitting, I'm going to try to find some sliders to let me cope with it using Directional hitting.

                              I love the pitching strategy, especially with a lower strike frequency. Really see a lot of refusing to give in.

                              I hope I can find hitting sliders that will make me happy because I adore the pitching AI.

                              I wish you could get that pitching logic regardless of difficulty setting.
                              "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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                              • Armor and Sword
                                The Lama
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 21790

                                #195
                                Re: Patch 1.09 is Live

                                Originally posted by KBLover
                                After seen the way I got pitched on legend hitting with the sliders I was using for HoF hitting, I'm going to try to find some sliders to let me cope with it using Directional hitting.

                                I love the pitching strategy, especially with a lower strike frequency. Really see a lot of refusing to give in.

                                I hope I can find hitting sliders that will make me happy because I adore the pitching AI.

                                I wish you could get that pitching logic regardless of difficulty setting.
                                I have pitchers refusing to give in on HOF.....plenty. Judge leads the league in walks and i have drawn them all. Stanton in the top 10 as well. Sanchez getting respect.

                                The pitching AI this year is unmatched by any console baseball game I have ever played. Actually I have not seen it even close to this good since the High Heat series!

                                Anyway. I hit at default settings except solid hits at 4 and foul frequency at 4. But that is HOF/HOF. You may want to bump solid hits to 6 and foul frequency to 5 with Legend pitching to compensate for the constant corner painting. Just a thought. Otherwise I would be going straight default.
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