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  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52760

    #46
    Re: 9-3 putouts

    Originally posted by Blzer
    CB's entire opinion in this thread in response to my posts is centered around what you're saying below:




    I'm more in the camp of: "Just get it fixed. No more band-aids. It causes several issues in this game, not just the 9-3 putout."


    He’s not me.

    Seems you’re hell bent on having an argument instead of discussing differences of opinion


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    • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
      MVP
      • Jun 2016
      • 1354

      #47
      Re: 9-3 putouts

      Originally posted by Blzer
      CB's entire opinion in this thread in response to my posts is centered around what you're saying below:

      I'm more in the camp of: "Just get it fixed. No more band-aids. It causes several issues in this game, not just the 9-3 putout."
      (CB didn't say that....)

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      • Blzer
        Resident film pundit
        • Mar 2004
        • 42520

        #48
        Re: 9-3 putouts

        Okay, then let's go back to this post:

        Originally posted by countryboy
        My perspective is that the first baseman not covering the bag isn’t a “fix to an element that is broken”, but rather simulating what you see in actual baseball.
        My counter-claim here would be: "If they altered aspects of the outfield defense (reaction, positioning, speeds of any sort), whether or not the first baseman is on the bag would have no difference as to that runner being safe on his single alone."

        Would you agree, or disagree?

        Everything I've said in this thread has completely to do with the fact that this game has inherent issues that is causing the 9-3 putout, among several other things. You seem to have been dismissive/defensive about this point.

        (my second counter-claim, by the way, would be that the first baseman would cover the bag iff he had a chance to get an out, as you've seen in the MLB clips)
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        • countryboy
          Growing pains
          • Sep 2003
          • 52760

          #49
          Re: 9-3 putouts

          Originally posted by Blzer
          Okay, then let's go back to this post:



          My counter-claim here would be: "If they altered aspects of the outfield defense (reaction, positioning, speeds of any sort), whether or not the first baseman is on the bag would have no difference as to that runner being safe on his single alone."

          Would you agree, or disagree?

          Everything I've said in this thread has completely to do with the fact that this game has inherent issues that is causing the 9-3 putout, among several other things. You seem to have been dismissive/defensive about this point.

          (my second counter-claim, by the way, would be that the first baseman would cover the bag iff he had a chance to get an out, as you've seen in the MLB clips)


          I’ve already addressed this.

          For me I don’t have an issue with the rate of 9-3 putouts, runners advancing first to third on hits to right field, outfield positioning, or anything else brought up in this thread.

          That is MY opinion based on my experience and what I find “sim” about the game.

          Pick an argument with someone else


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          I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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          • Blzer
            Resident film pundit
            • Mar 2004
            • 42520

            #50
            Re: 9-3 putouts

            Well, you have a strange way of showing it then.

            I'm not trying to argue with you. As you can see, I contributed to this thread before you did, and you quoted me right after.

            Anyway, I guess we can agree to part ways in this thread, but for me these concerns aren't over and you'll see me post about them time to time because they need to be addressed.
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            • countryboy
              Growing pains
              • Sep 2003
              • 52760

              #51
              Re: 9-3 putouts

              Originally posted by Blzer
              Well, you have a strange way of showing it then.
              Showing what? My opinion?

              Originally posted by blzer
              I'm not trying to argue with you. As you can see, I contributed to this thread before you did, and you quoted me right after.
              You used a post by nemesis to basically come after me and my opinion.

              And I posted my opinion as to why I believe it is the way that it is. I never said you were wrong in your opinion just that the way it is now beats the alternative of having guys thrown out at first on a "regular" basis. I did call into question your use of the term "broken" because I don't think its actually broken but rather done this way purposely to balance the game in terms of hitting and to prevent the issue that was in previous editions of players being easily thrown out at first base on 9-3 putouts.

              Originally posted by blzer
              Anyway, I guess we can agree to part ways in this thread, but for me these concerns aren't over and you'll see me post about them time to time because they need to be addressed.
              Thanks for the warning???...threat???
              Last edited by countryboy; 07-04-2018, 09:24 PM.
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              • Blzer
                Resident film pundit
                • Mar 2004
                • 42520

                #52
                Re: 9-3 putouts

                Originally posted by countryboy
                You used a post by nemesis to basically come after me and my opinion.
                Holy crap, that is totally my bad.

                Even as he posted again I still thought it was you. I guess the lowercase blue name combined with a Show regular just had me intertwine you both.

                Wow, I gotta lay off the proverbial a little bit.
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                • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2016
                  • 1354

                  #53
                  Re: 9-3 putouts

                  Originally posted by Blzer
                  Holy crap, that is totally my bad.

                  Even as he posted again I still thought it was you. I guess the lowercase blue name combined with a Show regular just had me intertwine you both.

                  Wow, I gotta lay off the proverbial a little bit.
                  At least that makes more sense.

                  I was wondering why you kept going once we all pointed out it wasn't him. I couldn't figure out what you were doing so i was just going to stay out of it but i was really having to hold my tongue.
                  Last edited by NolanRyansSnowmonkey; 07-04-2018, 10:16 PM.

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                  • Blzer
                    Resident film pundit
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 42520

                    #54
                    Re: 9-3 putouts

                    Originally posted by NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                    I was wondering why you kept going once we all pointed out it wasn't him. I couldn't figure out what you were doing so i was just going to stay out of it.
                    LOL I thought you were saying that CB wasn't implying that, but you were really saying that he wasn't the person who posted it.
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