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  • AUTiger1
    MVP
    • Oct 2008
    • 2413

    #151
    Re: The Disturbing Trend I've Noticed About MLB: The Show

    My biggest issue right now is stopping the big inning. I just for the life of me cannot keep the other team from scoring a ton of runs in a single inning, and twice it happened right on the heels of me having a big inning. The last 3 games I've played (2 against the Reds, 1 against the Mets) I had innings where I gave up 8, 4, and 5 runs. The last game, just mind blown. I scored 5 runs in the top of the 4th. I allowed 5 runs in the bottom of the 4th. The stupidest thing about it was that all of a sudden my fielders just went stupid making 3 of the runs unearned. There were two errors on the infield and I had an outfielder just completely overun a ball allowing it to roll all the way to the wall. No runs the rest of the game. So, in the last 3 games I've played, I've given up 17 runs in 3 innings and 0 runs in the other 23 innings. How in the world do I explain that? How does that happen? I just know that it's extremely frustrating that I can pitch so well all those other innings but I've got that one magical inning where nothing goes right and it happens right on the heels of me having a big offensive inning.


    I will also say that getting swings and misses on Legend is extremely difficult and that's even with the CPU's contact slider down a notch or two. If I get more than 5 strikeouts in a game on legend I'm doing good. That's not adding up with the realistic strikeout totals we're seeing across the board these days.
    Last edited by AUTiger1; 07-22-2018, 11:19 PM.
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    • Padgoi
      Banned
      • Oct 2008
      • 1873

      #152
      Re: The Disturbing Trend I've Noticed About MLB: The Show

      Originally posted by AUTiger1
      What does RNG stand for?
      Random number generator

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      • Padgoi
        Banned
        • Oct 2008
        • 1873

        #153
        Re: The Disturbing Trend I've Noticed About MLB: The Show

        I don't have issues with cpu strikeouts. Granted I have a very strong staff, but I've had more than a fair share of games where I strike out the cpu double digit times on legend. You have to mix it up, nibble corners, use all four quadrants. Try not to be predictable.

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        • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
          MVP
          • Jun 2016
          • 1354

          #154
          Re: The Disturbing Trend I've Noticed About MLB: The Show

          Originally posted by AUTiger1
          My biggest issue right now is stopping the big inning. I just for the life of me cannot keep the other team from scoring a ton of runs in a single inning, and twice it happened right on the heels of me having a big inning. The last 3 games I've played (2 against the Reds, 1 against the Mets) I had innings where I gave up 8, 4, and 5 runs. The last game, just mind blown. I scored 5 runs in the top of the 4th. I allowed 5 runs in the bottom of the 4th. The stupidest thing about it was that all of a sudden my fielders just went stupid making 3 of the runs unearned. There were two errors on the infield and I had an outfielder just completely overun a ball allowing it to roll all the way to the wall. No runs the rest of the game. So, in the last 3 games I've played, I've given up 17 runs in 3 innings and 0 runs in the other 23 innings. How in the world do I explain that? How does that happen? I just know that it's extremely frustrating that I can pitch so well all those other innings but I've got that one magical inning where nothing goes right and it happens right on the heels of me having a big offensive inning.


          I will also say that getting swings and misses on Legend is extremely difficult and that's even with the CPU's contact slider down a notch or two. If I get more than 5 strikeouts in a game on legend I'm doing good. That's not adding up with the realistic strikeout totals we're seeing across the board these days.
          To stop the big inning, turn down certain CPU sliders or turn up your pitching sliders a notch or two. Maybe just contact, or something else. I also had big innings on me at first. Random big innings also can be confused with "cpu boosts" if they come at the wrong times.

          Over-compensate on where you drop the sliders to, if you have to. Then go back up and meet halfway. There will be a slider point somewhere where big innings never occur (even when they are behind, or you just had a big inning) You need to be somewhere between that point, and where you are now.

          Remember, pitching sliders affect CPU hitting too. Low pitching sliders will get crushed more frequently than default. Those sliders with CPU hitting sliders all affect cpu hitting, and need to balance. Dont underestimate the consistency slider for just a wild pitch slider. It also can increase swings and misses, believe me, contrary to popular belief. Those sliders are not only about location. They are both (not just Control) about effectiveness.

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          • KBLover
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2009
            • 12172

            #155
            Re: The Disturbing Trend I've Noticed About MLB: The Show

            Originally posted by NolanRyansSnowmonkey
            Dont underestimate the consistency slider for just a wild pitch slider. It also can increase swings and misses, believe me, contrary to popular belief. Those sliders are not only about location. They are both (not just Control) about effectiveness.

            So much this.

            Consistency is like how fast the CPU Meter is. So lower makes it harder for the CPU to nail that perfect release and mistakes are penalized more in effectiveness and location.

            Control is like how good the CPU is with the Meter. How good the CPU is timing that perfect spot.

            So high control and low consistency is like the CPU is good with hitting it, but any mistake will be more off because of how "sensitive" the meter is.

            Low control means the CPU might not nail it consistently, but higher consistency will keep mistakes hurting a bit less.

            Control also factors into the hitting rolls and how precise you need to be to avoid penalties. It works with/against Contact to impact that part of the hitting engine (in Directional anyway but I imagine it has it's impacts in Zone).
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            • KBLover
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2009
              • 12172

              #156
              Re: The Disturbing Trend I've Noticed About MLB: The Show

              Originally posted by AUTiger1
              I will also say that getting swings and misses on Legend is extremely difficult and that's even with the CPU's contact slider down a notch or two. If I get more than 5 strikeouts in a game on legend I'm doing good. That's not adding up with the realistic strikeout totals we're seeing across the board these days.

              I raised my Control and Consistency to offset that.

              Granted, I use Classic pitching, but...it worked and I have the least control of the pitching interfaces. They still can get me, but I can get them too.
              "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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              • ASG82
                Rookie
                • Jul 2018
                • 10

                #157
                Re: The Disturbing Trend I've Noticed About MLB: The Show

                My first post here so some preface about me:


                First time playing The Show since 12/13. Used to get the game every other year before that.

                Didn't like some of the changes made to RTTS this year so been trying DD this year.
                First time playing any game online in any real fashion.


                So this is my first time I'm seeing these new hitting options (zone and even really directional) and I got to say I'm not a fan of zone especially. When I say I'm not a fan, I don't mean that I don't like using it, I mean that I don't like how it has converted the game. The previous versions of the games I bought were about mixing up pitches and being situational with both the situation (runners on base, etc.) as well as the type of batter you are facing. This is still the case when pitching to the CPU but online is a completely different story thanks to PCI. This game is no longer a strategy game, which is what I think baseball is in its most base form. Throwing a sinker, change up, or other off-speed pitch down and outside doesn't increase the likelihood of inducing a ground ball for a double play. Now add that with some patch (1.10?), they made it so you can move your PCI outside the zone and I literally had a game where I don't think I threw a pitch inside the strike zone and only had 10 Ks and gave up a HR.


                So I'm the opposite of the OP and a lot of other people online in my views. I want the attributes to matter more (more base hits for high contact players, not a bigger PCI, that's what vision is for) and I want a game that isn't a target game with a baseball skin (that's what I call zone hitting). What they have turned the game into with zone/PCI is why this game is all about power hitters. Take the other attributes being useful for anything other than making that zone circle bigger and all that matters is power.


                Also, to the OP's compliment of The Show fixing "just late," I completely believe people such as Sparky who say that all they did was relabel the timing description so that "just late" is now "good" and "good" is now "just early" and it was just a cosmetic change.

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                • Gosens6
                  All Star
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 6101

                  #158
                  Re: The Disturbing Trend I've Noticed About MLB: The Show

                  Originally posted by countryboy
                  But perfectly squared and good timing shouldn’t always equate to a hit or homerun.

                  It happens in real life a guy will square it up and hit it right at someone or fly out or something other than a hit.




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                  It’s like trying to explain to the guys on the NBA 2K forum that being wide open doesn’t mean you’re going to hit every shot you take.


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                  • Caulfield
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 10986

                    #159
                    Re: The Disturbing Trend I've Noticed About MLB: The Show

                    Originally posted by Gosens6
                    It’s like trying to explain to the guys on the NBA 2K forum that being wide open doesn’t mean you’re going to hit every shot you take.


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                    • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2016
                      • 1354

                      #160
                      Re: The Disturbing Trend I've Noticed About MLB: The Show

                      Not only that but, not only that, you miss 100% of the shots you dont take - "Wayne Gretzky" - Michael Scott -Caulfield

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                      • ASG82
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2018
                        • 10

                        #161
                        Re: The Disturbing Trend I've Noticed About MLB: The Show

                        But if a hitter sends a ball to the deepest part of the yard in CF at over 100 MPH, unless the outfielder was playing deep or is really fast, they should probably not get there in time. Yet I only see this happen in The Show at the corner OF positions.

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                        • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2016
                          • 1354

                          #162
                          Re: The Disturbing Trend I've Noticed About MLB: The Show

                          Originally posted by ASG82
                          But if a hitter sends a ball to the deepest part of the yard in CF at over 100 MPH, unless the outfielder was playing deep or is really fast, they should probably not get there in time. Yet I only see this happen in The Show at the corner OF positions.
                          Is this supposed to be in the outfielder routes thread? Either way im not 100% sure what you are saying. That nothing ever gets over the CF's head?

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                          • ASG82
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2018
                            • 10

                            #163
                            Re: The Disturbing Trend I've Noticed About MLB: The Show

                            Originally posted by NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                            Is this supposed to be in the outfielder routes thread? Either way im not 100% sure what you are saying. That nothing ever gets over the CF's head?
                            I'm saying the balls hang up too long so the outfielders have too much time to be able to get to them. It's not about their route, this happens even online.

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                            • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2016
                              • 1354

                              #164
                              Re: The Disturbing Trend I've Noticed About MLB: The Show

                              Originally posted by ASG82
                              I'm saying the balls hang up too long so the outfielders have too much time to be able to get to them. It's not about their route, this happens even online.
                              You may to make some adjustments because i see it happen. My favorite one was when i smashed a line drive over Springer's head in CF that even he couldn't run down.

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                              • Vanilla_Gorilla
                                Rookie
                                • May 2018
                                • 420

                                #165
                                Re: The Disturbing Trend I've Noticed About MLB: The Show

                                Originally posted by ASG82
                                But if a hitter sends a ball to the deepest part of the yard in CF at over 100 MPH, unless the outfielder was playing deep or is really fast, they should probably not get there in time. Yet I only see this happen in The Show at the corner OF positions.
                                I think this is more of a wind issue or a fielding slider issue.

                                I think they need to separate fielding sliders to human and cpu. I have CPU fielders making insane diving grabs 2-3 times per game. I might toy with those next.

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