Batting Feedback: Let's Talk About This

[Vanilla_Gorilla]

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Why allow this? Your last nerve. This game is meant to be enjoyed. For years we've had to do some workarounds, no problem. Look at the rocket bunts...there's actually a couple good workarounds. Even the comeback code was finally put to rest the way BCruise explained to test it.

You posted that fielding need to be completely overhauled, but, from the posts, you really didn't know what assisted fielding was and what it was supposed to do. You want a free agent overhaul, but it was explained that some of the stuff you wanted was available, but you didn't seem to know this. You attributed the out of control foul balls to possibly the devs putting it in if you were ahead in the game. The list sort of goes on and on. Basically the game sucks.

People are trying to help you, but it's not certain you're listening. I would shelve this game in a minute if I was coming on here and lamenting that this needs to be "stripped", this is to be redone, that I'm a wits end.

I figured out how to not have rocket bunts on my own. I had a lot of those when I would bunt on a fastball, so I stopped bunting on fastballs.

I still do believe Meter throwing(for fielding) needs an overhaul and fielding needs some major improvements because of the amount of bugs I have seen with it. Changing what makes you play comfortably with the game is not the way to fix it either, that's cheap. I shouldn't have to change the way I'm comfortable playing the game to enjoy it.

I still do think free agency needs work because of the lack of negotiations and sometimes the pure randomness of it.

And I'm still experiencing the CPU fouling off crazy amounts of balls in at-bats every now and then. I had one in a game against Detroit yesterday where Miki Mahtook fouled off 7 pitches not once but twice. That's with CPU foul frequency on 0. He fouled off 2 that were literally in the dirt.

[KnightTemplar]

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Changing what makes you play comfortably with the game is not the way to fix it either, that's cheap. I shouldn't have to change the way I'm comfortable playing the game to enjoy it.

And I'm still experiencing the CPU fouling off crazy amounts of balls in at-bats every now and then. I had one in a game against Detroit yesterday where Miki Mahtook fouled off 7 pitches not once but twice. That's with CPU foul frequency on 0. He fouled off 2 that were literally in the dirt.

That's it for me, good grief. I didn't tell you that things didn't need some work in the game. It was in regards to your "nerves" and having FUN. You know.....FUN. I'm sorry, but I take what you post with a grain of salt. I'm beginning to think what you're doing is done with a purpose, so you'll get nothing else from me.

Just have a little mercy on the rest and post in the impressions thread instead of making another thread of what you can't figure out. Not up to me, just a suggestion.

[Vanilla_Gorilla]

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This is exactly why i have not even tried to help. It, yet again, seems to me like help isn't being sought. It seems more like wanting to find someone to agree with you that the entire game us broken. To me, it wastes these people's time who actually take time and effort to detail out how to help you, and makes it fruitless.

I wrote this post yesterday but didn't push send because apparently it would be viewed by some on here as condescending or rude etc, but here it is. If it hurts any feelings i apologize in advance:

At the risk of this being misunderstood as being condescending, i will ask this question - is there honestly anything good about MLB the Show? I really mean that.

Because catchers are morons, fielding needs an overhaul, baserunning is bugged, free agency is total cheese, quick manage logic is disastrous, you dont get franchise notifications, players aren't urgent enough, and now, PCI/Feedback is broken and somehow actually even getting worse as you go along. Did i miss anything? Because that is basically every aspect of the Show.

I think i actually remembering you saying you liked your bullpen or something one time.

I wouldn't doubt that some of these problems may exist in the game to some degree or another. Especially if you haven't found the right settings for your skill level. But when you are constantly saying the game is bugged/broken in just about every conceivable area, yet you continue to play the game, it becomes increasingly more difficult for people who have read your other posts/threads to take posts like this seriously at all. Even if there might be validity to it.

It's honestly getting old to me, day after day. If it is rude to point out I apologize.

I understand where you're coming from, and you probably wonder why I'm still playing the game. That's because it's a Sports game and I've stick through a sports game no matter what. Because well, I love the sport. I've played every Madden game from 98 up to 2018. Every single one. Every NCAA game as well.

This is just my 2nd MLB: The Show game. My first since 2013.

But I'm actually having these issues. My feedback is egregiously off at times. Fielding has been atrocious for me. Player's urgency has been stupid at times.

4 years ago I pre-ordered Total War: Rome II. If you don't know what that game is, well, just know it had an absolutely disastrously buggy launch.

I didn't have a single bug that people reported. Not one. I experienced literally no bugs at all.

My point with that is, I'm experiencing bugs with the game that you and others aren't. Whether it be feedback errors or fielding bugs. Things will happen to others that won't happen to you.

Sports, in general, is frustrating. Ken Giles didn't say "Ah, **** you man" to A.J. Hinch for no reason. But when you couple the frustrations of sports into the frustrations of video game bugs that affect your gameplay, it causes some real anger to come out.

To answer your question about whether there is anything good with the show, plenty. I am having a far more enjoyable experience with the game than I am having a frustrating one. But when it is frustrating, it is extremely frustrating.

[Vanilla_Gorilla]

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That's it for me, good grief. I didn't tell you that things didn't need some work in the game. It was in regards to your "nerves" and having FUN. You know.....FUN. I'm sorry, but I take what you post with a grain of salt. I'm beginning to think what you're doing is done with a purpose, so you'll get nothing else from me.

Just have a little mercy on the rest and post in the impressions thread instead of making another thread of what you can't figure out. Not up to me, just a suggestion.

To begin with, this was less of a thread about this feature is broken, and more of one on how they can improve this particular feature and what it's lacking on.

I'm a noob at some things and I make mistakes because I don't know about certain things. The quick manage logic being one of those

I'm just trying to point out issues where I see them, if it's on me, fine, I'll fix it and move on. But sometimes, it's not on me, and I can't fix it because it's a game issue.

[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

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My point with that is, I'm experiencing bugs with the game that you and others aren't. Whether it be feedback errors or fielding bugs. Things will happen to others that won't happen to you.

This is what i always have a problem with. Your experience is not unique. Your copy isn't unique. I promise - if you go to the store and buy a used copy of MLB 18, you will see zero difference. If that is the case, the common denominator is the user himself, along with his settings.

If i really believed i was experiencing bugs no one else is experiencing, i would buy another copy and throw my old one away. If you really want to end your frustrations, just trade in your current copy for another one. But we both know this is not the problem.

As i have said before, no copy is unique (other than slight differences in patches). I experienced a lot of "bugs" before I got my settings and skill level balanced. I got frustrated at times trying to get there. Is the game perfect? No. But it's awesome. And no longer frustrating, other than the common frustrations that come in any 162 game season.

If you are having this many problems, the vast majority of what you are seeing is not a "bug" problem, or a "game" problem. It seems to me that it is either a settings problem or a pessimism problem.

[Vanilla_Gorilla]

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This is what i always have a problem with. Your experience is not unique. Your copy isn't unique. I promise - if you go to the store and buy a used copy of MLB 18, you will see zero difference. If that is the case, the common denominator is the user himself, along with his settings.

If i really believed i was experiencing bugs no one else is experiencing, i would buy another copy and throw my old one away. If you really want to end your frustrations, just trade in your current copy for another one. But we both know this is not the problem.

As i have said before, no copy is unique (other than slight differences in patches). I experienced a lot of "bugs" before I got my settings and skill level balanced. I got frustrated at times trying to get there. Is the game perfect? No. But it's awesome. And no longer frustrating, other than the common frustrations that come in any 162 game season.

If you are having this many problems, the vast majority of what you are seeing is not a "bug" problem, or a "game" problem. It is either a settings problem or a pessimism problem.

Did you not see my point about Rome II? Bugs don't happen to everyone. I see countless posts of people in different video games having bugs that I am not having. Just because you don't see them, doesn't mean they don't happen.

[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

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Did you not see my point about Rome II? Bugs don't happen to everyone. I see countless posts of people in different video games having bugs that I am not having. Just because you don't see them, doesn't mean they don't happen.

Then what causes the difference? It has to be either the copy of the game, the ps4 itself, or the way the user perceives the game.

If you traded copies of Rome II with someone who was experiencing bugs, which person would now see the bugs?

[Caulfield]

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Not to go too far off topic, but since the OP did introduce it into the discussion, Rome II was a pc game and IMO that had a lot of why there were such drastic user experiences.

Also, it could be that the feedback is correct and the replay is actually whats screwy.

[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

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Not to go too far off topic, but since the OP did introduce it into the discussion, Rome II was a pc game and IMO that had a lot of why there were such drastic user experiences.

Also, it could be that the feedback is correct and the replay is actually whats screwy.

I have only heard of Rome II so yeah that may make a difference. I know for a fact that replay isn't an exact representation of what really happened. Its close, but when it comes to bat/ball contact it can definitely be off. And i am fine with it. It is a good artist's representation.

[KBLover]

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And I'm still experiencing the CPU fouling off crazy amounts of balls in at-bats every now and then. I had one in a game against Detroit yesterday where Miki Mahtook fouled off 7 pitches not once but twice. That's with CPU foul frequency on 0. He fouled off 2 that were literally in the dirt.

It happens.

I have 7-8-9 pitch at-bats every now and then, too. I had an PA where I fouled off, literally, 6 pitches in a row (some I should have taken, meaning out of the zone, and yes, I've fouled some off heading to the dirt).

Had a 13-pitch one not long ago.

I have foul frequency on 0 for both myself and CPU. Long PAs occasionally occur for both teams.

Foul frequency doesn't actually set the frequency of foul balls. It does not "create" foul balls. It impacts the "gray areas" both in the timing window and around the PCI, which can impact the frequency of foul balls (because otherwise, maybe it's an outright miss).

There's no givens or guarantees. Those pitches could have been put in play. It just means I'm more likely to outright miss them and the edges of the timing window and the tolerance for PCI error is smaller...but there's other factors at play as well (contact slider, timing slider, PVIS, K/9, Movement, Execution of the pitch [i.e. what you get on the meter, your timing on Pulse, or RNG'd for Classic], pitch/pitcher confidence, etc.).

If anything, 0 foul frequency would mean those were "more pure" fouls because they occurred with the smallest possible "gray area" impact from that slider.

But, no one slider works independently of the others either.

[KBLover]

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Did you not see my point about Rome II?

PC games are a different animal because my PC, even with the exact same specs, isn't necessarily yours.

Different age, different component brands, different BIOS, different OC settings/aggressiveness, different temps/cooling, other software/hardware/drivers.

PS4's, to my knowledge, are far more uniform (in theory), with age and damage/defect being the variables...but then those wouldn't likely show up just on The Show.

[Subway_sub]

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To me it kinda sounds like ur bad at the game and want to blame the game rather than yourself. Don't worry I do it too lol

[Vanilla_Gorilla]

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Then what causes the difference? It has to be either the copy of the game, the ps4 itself, or the way the user perceives the game.

If you traded copies of Rome II with someone who was experiencing bugs, which person would now see the bugs?

Do you honestly think the game is perfect? Bugs are in every single video game. Every single one. They're in Madden, NBA 2K, MLB: The Show, Rome 2, even way back in the days of Age of Empires. There are always bugs.

System, genre, type of game, controller, it makes no difference. No one can make an absolutely perfect game.

There's going to be bugs and quirks and glitches with their coding and programming that makes these bugs happen. That's just technology.

[Vanilla_Gorilla]

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Not to go too far off topic, but since the OP did introduce it into the discussion, Rome II was a pc game and IMO that had a lot of why there were such drastic user experiences.

Also, it could be that the feedback is correct and the replay is actually whats screwy.

Could be, but I would think that replay would be the more accurate one since it, is in a sense, a replay of what happened.

Either way, it's frustrating to see how you screwed up when one shows you you hit the thing perfectly and the other shows you screwed up big time.

Thanks Caulfield!

[Vanilla_Gorilla]

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To me it kinda sounds like ur bad at the game and want to blame the game rather than yourself. Don't worry I do it too lol

Nah, I win most of my games by about 2-3 runs. Have close games every now and then and I lose a good bit of playoff games. I suck in the playoffs