After 150 games, I can honestly say the show 18 has been an utter disappointment...

[jeffy777]

Re: After 150 games, I can honestly say the show 18 has been an utter disappointment.

I don't know if I'm in this alledged "fan boy" camp or not (nor do I care), but I certainly acknowledge the flaws in this game - and I know I'm going to have to tweak it to get what I want to see out of it.

But that doesn't disappoint me because it's what I expect to do. Whether it's Madden (when I played it) or The Show or whatever - I expect to need to change things.

It is annoying, but I'll tweak and move on (because doing nothing and being upset will just upset me...while not addressing the problem), report it to the devs on their board or if they ask for input here, and get on with it.

It can be better and should be better, but I don't expect it to be. If it is, I'm pleasantly surprised. If it's not...what else is new - I'll do what I've done since MLB12 - tweak, report, and get on with it until I decide I've had enough and I'll just leave the series.

That’s where I’m at too. Honestly, I’m just happy we have a baseball game that’s this good. Looking at the competition, or rather lack thereof, we’re pretty lucky. Yes, there’s always room for improvement (I posted my main gripes earlier in the thread), but if you constantly dwell on the flaws, you’ll never be happy. Just got to try to enjoy the game for what it is and hope next year will see the improvements you long for.

[stealyerface]

Re: After 150 games, I can honestly say the show 18 has been an utter disappointment.

Pad,
In the Slider Vault - “Stealys TrueSimV3.1”. I used the OSFM Hybrid Roster with pitch edits.

Play a few games and see what you think. Might be something to freshen it up for you.
~syf


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[Padgoi]

Re: After 150 games, I can honestly say the show 18 has been an utter disappointment.

Pad,
In the Slider Vault - “Stealys TrueSimV3.1”. I used the OSFM Hybrid Roster with pitch edits.

Play a few games and see what you think. Might be something to freshen it up for you.
~syf


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I'll try the sliders, bro. I already use the hybrid roster in my own season

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[bobloblah1980]

Re: After 150 games, I can honestly say the show 18 has been an utter disappointment.

I have been playing The Show since 08, and while in love the series I have repeatedly said in say the last 5 years or so that Sports games need to get off the Yearly release cycle and go to a 2 year cycle with a Roster updates and Patches every non release year so the Devs have time to correctly fix issues. Having said that I know that will realistically never happen. But to me that would be the ideal way for Sports franchises

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[Padgoi]

Re: After 150 games, I can honestly say the show 18 has been an utter disappointment.

These are the normal, every day animations I come across. Honestly, I really have no words to describe just how bad these are. I remember back in the ps2 and ps3 days, before we were able to readily catch videos of these things, people would constantly berate us and ask us to capture video evidence. Now we can and this is still happening on a regular basis. These things simply need to be totally eradicated from the game before I can even remotely consider it a sim game.

http://sendvid.com/grbrawec

http://sendvid.com/qjp4fxqf

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[Caulfield]

Re: After 150 games, I can honestly say the show 18 has been an utter disappointment.

I have been playing The Show since 08, and while in love the series I have repeatedly said in say the last 5 years or so that Sports games need to get off the Yearly release cycle and go to a 2 year cycle with a Roster updates and Patches every non release year so the Devs have time to correctly fix issues. Having said that I know that will realistically never happen. But to me that would be the ideal way for Sports franchises

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I'd be okay with every other year roster updates but I too know that dog won't hunt. SDS isn't getting more time though so what they need is more developers

[bcruise]

Re: After 150 games, I can honestly say the show 18 has been an utter disappointment.

I'm not going to get involved with the discussion in this thread, I'm just going to ask one simple question. I'll leave it to you to figure out why I'm asking it.

Is that Justin Upton in those two clips?

[Padgoi]

Re: After 150 games, I can honestly say the show 18 has been an utter disappointment.

Yes. This is a friend of mine who uses the angels in his franchise.

I'm not going to get involved with the discussion in this thread, I'm just going to ask one simple question. I'll leave it to you to figure out why I'm asking it.

Is that Justin Upton in those two clips?

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[Jeffrey Smith]

Re: After 150 games, I can honestly say the show 18 has been an utter disappointment.

While I can’t say that I don’t see what your seeing I still believe the positives far outweigh the negatives when it comes to gameplay and animations. I’ve probably played about 100 games so far and still have “oh my” moments.
Just curious but you say you’v played 150 games so you must be enjoying some aspect of the game. What are the positives for you?

[Padgoi]

Re: After 150 games, I can honestly say the show 18 has been an utter disappointment.

While I can’t say that I don’t see what your seeing I still believe the positives far outweigh the negatives when it comes to gameplay and animations. I’ve probably played about 100 games so far and still have “oh my” moments.
Just curious but you say you’v played 150 games so you must be enjoying some aspect of the game. What are the positives for you?

It's baseball.

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[Caulfield]

Re: After 150 games, I can honestly say the show 18 has been an utter disappointment.

It's baseball.

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for awhile I wondered if my main reason for playing the Show was because its baseball.but then I played RBI last year. nope. couldnt take it. yeah, its baseball. but its not enjoyable IMO. I might feel different if I only owned an X-Box. its like retro-mode in the Show. once you've had steak, its hard to go back to eating baloney every day

[tessl]

Re: After 150 games, I can honestly say the show 18 has been an utter disappointment.

There are a few minor issues but on the field in manage mode this is the best version of the show to date.

[bfindeisen]

Re: After 150 games, I can honestly say the show 18 has been an utter disappointment.

I just wanted to chime in to say that I wholeheartedly agree with just about everything the OP has said in this thread. I've been playing The Show now for 10 years, and it seems like always the same things in these forums. Long time users (and general lovers of the game) express their frustration with the games' more obvious and ridiculous shortcomings, many that are often legacy issues for YEARS AND YEARS, and people pile in to drown out their valid complaints with noise about how they don't agree...as if somehow someone expressing their frustration is an an affront to the game and it's creators.

I love this game, but when you continuously see the exact same legacy issues for over 5 years now, you begin to ask yourself what the developers are doing. Unfortunately, I can see the writing on the wall...and although this game is still a tremendous baseball game, it seems the focus will be on developing the "Ultimate Team"-like mode of Diamond Dynasty because it generates micropurchases. With that, the game is going to cater more to that crowd, who generally accept more arcade-like gameplay (all players All-Stars or Legends, ridiculous uniforms with pick stirrups and black socks, etc.). Just having that realization is a bummer for someone who roots for realism in their sports games. Players like me are not prioritized anymore in this game. They're trying to serve too many masters.

[TheWarmWind]

Re: After 150 games, I can honestly say the show 18 has been an utter disappointment.

I just wanted to chime in to say that I wholeheartedly agree with just about everything the OP has said in this thread. I've been playing The Show now for 10 years, and it seems like always the same things in these forums. Long time users (and general lovers of the game) express their frustration with the games' more obvious and ridiculous shortcomings, many that are often legacy issues for YEARS AND YEARS, and people pile in to drown out their valid complaints with noise about how they don't agree...as if somehow someone expressing their frustration is an an affront to the game and it's creators.

I love this game, but when you continuously see the exact same legacy issues for over 5 years now, you begin to ask yourself what the developers are doing. Unfortunately, I can see the writing on the wall...and although this game is still a tremendous baseball game, it seems the focus will be on developing the "Ultimate Team"-like mode of Diamond Dynasty because it generates micropurchases. With that, the game is going to cater more to that crowd, who generally accept more arcade-like gameplay (all players All-Stars or Legends, ridiculous uniforms with pick stirrups and black socks, etc.). Just having that realization is a bummer for someone who roots for realism in their sports games. Players like me are not prioritized anymore in this game. They're trying to serve too many masters.

You're right that there have been legacy issues that have been prevalent for years, and you're also right that DD is a disastrous pit where the Devs attention goes, but I think you have some unrealistic expectations.

Legacy issues would still exist even without DD. Maybe fewer of them, but they would still be there. Because updating the game in any significant way in a 1 year cycle is impossible.

Updating the engine is a fiscal impossibility. A small studio like SDS would die instantly without iterations every year. Just look at how much the pace of new features is crushed every time they have to switch consoles. They'd be releasing a worse game if they made an engine swap.

By today's standards, a 1 year development cycle is insanity. The fact that they are even able to make small, iterative improvements each year is impressive.