MLB the show 19 or BUST

[sydrogerdavid]

Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

I'll give 19 a look, but I would be surprised if I bought it. Never regretted passing on 18 as there just isn't enough there in franchise anymore, like most of you have said. With working in baseball and trying to play guitar everyday, I don't have enough time for The Show.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

2 games. One is a franchise edition (offline and online). The other is for diamond dynasty, road to the show, etc. Sony wouldn't be making 2 completely different games where they'd have to start from scratch on one. The cost and time wouldn't be a burden. I read once that discs game producers use cost around a dollar compared to much more expensive cartridges used by Nintendo. The gameplay, sound, physics, and graphics would be shared. The main difference would be the options and free space to add additional content and help the patches be more effective.

Respectfully, I think this is a horrible idea. There are too many people that dabble in multiple game modes and making them BUY 2 GAMES would make them extremely pissed off. Selling the franchise-only version would be bad for Sony because that title would be largely absent of the microtransactions that are driving development. Producing 2 games would raise their overhead considerably. Make them patch 2 titles. Support 2 games. Hire more people when it's already widely speculated on that they don't really have quite enough people to manage/support a single game.

The cost of the physical media to put the game on is nowhere near the crux of the issue as that's a relatively minor cost and more and more sales are digital anyway.

This whole discussion sort of reminds me of when a fan of a particular team schemes up a really lopsided trade that benefits his team and leaves the other team with absolutely no incentive to do it at all. In other words, I don't see what Sony's getting out of the '2 separate games' idea.

[countryboy]

Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

2 games. One is a franchise edition (offline and online). The other is for diamond dynasty, road to the show, etc. Sony wouldn't be making 2 completely different games where they'd have to start from scratch on one. The cost and time wouldn't be a burden. I read once that discs game producers use cost around a dollar compared to much more expensive cartridges used by Nintendo. The gameplay, sound, physics, and graphics would be shared. The main difference would be the options and free space to add additional content and help the patches be more effective.

It's 3 games. Franchise edition, RTTS/DD edition, and the combo game that has all of the game modes in it. (which is what we have now) There has to be the combo game because if not then you're going to lose sales, because no fan is going to want to buy two copies of a game ($90 using your pricing earlier) to play all the modes when they could pay $60 before and play them.

Cost and time would definitely be a burden. If you are developing 3 different skus of the same game, no matter what is shared, there is increased costs. There has to be. It goes beyond the cost of a disc, its marketing, packaging, and production of that game. It's not as simple as you're making/wanting it to be.

And I ask again, has there been any mention anywhere that space is an issue currently? I've never seen it. Just because there is more space doesn't automatically equate to the fact that the developers will be able to fill all that space, because time is a factor/burden, because its finite. They still only get roughly 10 months to develop the game.

And again, what does SDS gain from doing this? There is nothing to suggest that doing 3 different skus is going to increase sales. Again, they would be increasing costs and lowering profit margin for what?

And if the driving force behind wanting multiple skus is because the devs only care about DD and microtransactions, what makes you think they would add everything that we want into the franchise edition if they already don't care about it? Wouldn't they just keep it at minimal upgrades and focus more attention the DD version and how to maximize microtransactions?

There seems to be a line of thinking that multiple skus will result in everyone getting what they want and being happy, and I just don't see that being the case.

[BigOrangeVol4Life]

Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

Respectfully, I think this is a horrible idea. There are too many people that dabble in multiple game modes and making them BUY 2 GAMES would make them extremely pissed off. Selling the franchise-only version would be bad for Sony because that title would be largely absent of the microtransactions that are driving development. Producing 2 games would raise their overhead considerably. Make them patch 2 titles. Support 2 games. Hire more people when it's already widely speculated on that they don't really have quite enough people to manage/support a single game.

The cost of the physical media to put the game on is nowhere near the crux of the issue as that's a relatively minor cost and more and more sales are digital anyway.

This whole discussion sort of reminds me of when a fan of a particular team schemes up a really lopsided trade that benefits his team and leaves the other team with absolutely no incentive to do it at all. In other words, I don't see what Sony's getting out of the '2 separate games' idea.

I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Sony make 2 completely different games either the way you have 2k producing NBA2k and Playgrounds. Sell "MLB The Show: Franchise" for $59.95 and "MLB The Show: Role player" for the same price. That way Sony doesn't hurt their profits, franchise guys like myself can choose not to buy the other fluff, and Sony can add new features. After a while, everything gets stale especially when it has problems year after year. Why not deliver fresh blood and generate all sorts of new interest?

[countryboy]

Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Sony make 2 completely different games either the way you have 2k producing NBA2k and Playgrounds. Sell "MLB The Show: Franchise" for $59.95 and "MLB The Show: Role player" for the same price. That way Sony doesn't hurt their profits, franchise guys like myself can choose not to buy the other fluff, and Sony can add new features. After a while, everything gets stale especially when it has problems year after year. Why not deliver fresh blood and generate all sorts of new interest?

What about people that want to play both? They now would have to pay $120 to play all the modes when before they only had to pay $60.

The minute they decide to develop a separate game or multiple skus their profit margins are hurt. 2 games = increased costs.

And why would SDS compete against themselves, which is essentially what they would be doing by developing 2 separate games.

[jeffy777]

Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

What happens when the offline version only sells like 1/3rd or less the amount of the online version? Be careful what you wish for with this 2 version idea.

Plus it’s just a bad idea for the reasons others mentioned. If this were a viable idea, I’m sure they and every other sports franchise would’ve already done it years ago and it would be the standard, but they know people aren’t going to go for it so neither are they, and wisely so.

[OneTonneBaby]

Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

After skipping '18 completely, I really hope they give me a good reason (or several) to get back on the bus. If nothing else, I've proven to myself that I can skip the game if I feel underwhelmed. I was afraid I'd cave at some point during the summer, but nope. Hoping it was just a one year hiatus tho

Exactly the same. I decided to carry on with my 2017 Franchise and skip this year and i didn't cave.

After setting their stall out with pretty much no changes to Franchise, it really wasn't worth the money for me.

I understand that they have to cater for the non details obsessed people (unlike) us but sounds like they are on the verge of losing their core audience, to an extent. The clear fact that the money is in DD is a shame.

[Ace2734]

Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

A lot of good input here. I just wanted to say, even though the game is flawed (basically everything in franchise, animations, crazy patch work for example), I still think it’s an amazing game and the best, most authentic sports game around.

With that said, imagine where it COULD be. Still thankful it exists because I don’t play much 2K or Madden anymore.


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[DukesofHazzard]

Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

I just had a play almost made me wanna break my controller lol. I'm down 2-0 in Miami and Miami is batting, my pitcher about to get out of the fifth inning only allowing 2 runs and with a guy on 3rd and 2 outs I got the batter to hit a ground ball, I dove with my first baseman and snagged it and tossed it to my pitcher heading to first and the runner was called safe allowing the runner to score. I checked the replay and my pitchers foot beat the baserunners foot to the bag by a half step and there was no automatic challenge. I'm done with SDS and the show. Pathetic. Its not even fun anymore cuz us users don't have full controll. I want to see challenges at every base and I want to be the one to ask for a review, not automatic or not decided by the computer.

[DirtBallNation]

Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

So many “little things” could be added but all they care about is Diamond dynasty. They ask to make requests in these forums but 90% of things that are requested, don’t get added. So many people are so sick of Diamond Dynasty, yet they only focus on that. Franchise could use a huge facelift but year after year, there’s only small improvements. Time to make the stand against the game unless the big changes come.


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[jada855]

Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

I am going to say BUST!

Baseball has 5 Core fundamentals. MLB The Show has captured 1.5 out of 5 of the fundamentals needed for a Baseball game! For a game that has been in production since 2006 even though I am referencing only the PS4 Platform versions here. Something's not right!

If you play any of the key modes long enough! You will quickly come to realize and know exactly which ones are missing!

5 Baseball Fundamentals

Pitching
Hitting
Fielding
Baserunning
Strategy

[Lisac]

Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

Ill start off by saying The Show is the reason why I switched over to Playstation-
With that being said to me The Show would not be around if it had competition-

Its it good? Yes

But like many of you have said its getting stale
Diamond Dynasty and Retro Mode can go-
Give us Relocation or Create a Stadium and alot of us would be happy even though there is still alot they can fix on the Gameplay side of things.
To me the last couple of yrs has just been Roster Updates and thats about it!
Keeping fingers crossed for a vast improvement but probably not if PS5 is coming in 2020

[countryboy]

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I just had a play almost made me wanna break my controller lol. I'm down 2-0 in Miami and Miami is batting, my pitcher about to get out of the fifth inning only allowing 2 runs and with a guy on 3rd and 2 outs I got the batter to hit a ground ball, I dove with my first baseman and snagged it and tossed it to my pitcher heading to first and the runner was called safe allowing the runner to score. I checked the replay and my pitchers foot beat the baserunners foot to the bag by a half step and there was no automatic challenge. I'm done with SDS and the show. Pathetic. Its not even fun anymore cuz us users don't have full controll. I want to see challenges at every base and I want to be the one to ask for a review, not automatic or not decided by the computer.

Try pressing square. I don’t remember if someone told me or I read it here, but I’ve done it and it seems to work and allows me to challenge.

Could just be a coincidence though


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[Lisac]

Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

You mean competition like MLB2K, or RBI?

MLB was good
RBI No
MVP yes-

Cant even imagine a Bball game with the player models like Fifa or Madden to go along with Frostbite- Damn would be sick!
And add Create A Stadium and Relocation and you have a Winner!

[mikeq672]

Re: MLB the show 19 or BUST

These card collecting game modes are game killers, been saying it for years. Every single sports game has gotten worse and much less consistent in gameplay since these modes have been added. Dev teams start making the game in a way that will push people to spend more money on packs and completely ignore every other game modes.

At some point, the bubble will burst on this game modes, and we'll just be left with a garbage game because they wanted more inconsistent and random gameplay because that keeps more people invested in DD and spending money on packs.

I used to play a little of every mode in the game, now most of the time when I turn it on I just sit there and then realize I dont actually even enjoy the game because 90% of the modes are stale.