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  • KingCho4525
    Rookie
    • Apr 2017
    • 41

    #451
    Re: Official MLB 19 the Show Trade Discussion

    In an orioles franchise with no moves being made.. what are possible deals to acquire Miguel sano, nomad Mazara, and/or Tyler o’Neil? Looking at mlb ready young talent.

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    • MrSerendipity
      MVP
      • Jun 2013
      • 1397

      #452
      Re: Official MLB 19 the Show Trade Discussion

      Originally posted by joejoe0783
      I’m the A’s & I was looking at trading Profar to the Brewers. They lost their starting 2nd baseman & their top prospect 2nd baseman. I was wondering what would be a fair trade for Profar who is doing okay in my franchise. Thanks
      Something like the following should work for Profar:

      MIL REC:
      Jurickson Profar

      OAK REC:
      Mauricio Dubon
      Marcos Diplan

      Originally posted by Dakotabt09
      What kind of package could I put together to bring Stroman to the Twins?
      MIN REC:
      Marcus Stroman

      TOR REC:
      Brusdar Graterol
      Stephen Gonsalves
      Akil Baddoo

      Originally posted by pickle2002
      I know Aaron Sanchez has been asked about a lot in this thread so far but I’m wondering if either of these would work. Was looking for teams that had pitching depth in minors but only like one or two reliable pitchers in the majors.

      Aaron Sanchez to Los Angeles Angels for-

      Jaime Barria (22 years old, 74 ovr, B pot, SP)
      Parker Bridwell (27 years old, 69 ovr, B pot, SP)
      Nonie Williams (20 years old, 57 ovr, C pot, CF)

      Aaron Sanchez to Milwaukee Brewers for-

      Corbin Burnes (24 years old, 72 ovr, B pot, SP)
      Freddy Peralta (22 years old, 76 ovr, B pot, SP)

      I don’t know if any of these are good or not they might be not enough for Sanchez but they might be too much idk. I was mainly looking to get pitching prospects that are close and an outfielder if I could sneak one in.
      I personally, think Toronto is getting back too much in either scenario. There are some Toronto fans in here who may disagree but Barria is only 22 and posted a 2.6 WAR in his rookie year for LA. Burnes was a Top 100 Prospect in 2017 and posted a positive WAR in his rookie season last year. Burnes is a closer get for Toronto than Barria but I truthfully don't see why either team would swing those. LAA would be foolish to deal Barria right now and Milwaukee can get a better pitcher in return for Burnes than Sanchez.

      You could do either of these deals:

      LAA Receives:
      Aaron Sanchez

      TOR Receives:
      Jose Suarez
      Jordyn Adams

      MIL Receives:
      Aaron Sanchez

      TOR Receives:
      Zack Brown
      Joe Gray

      That is still overpaying if we're going off of Surplus Value. But assuming Sanchez can return to pre-2017 form and is having a good year, you could add an additional lottery piece.

      Originally posted by KingCho4525
      In an orioles franchise with no moves being made.. what are possible deals to acquire Miguel sano, nomad Mazara, and/or Tyler o’Neil? Looking at mlb ready young talent.
      To be completely honest with you, a deal for any of those guys is going to start with one of Mountcastle, Diaz or Hall which severely hits the Baltimore farm system.
      2019 OS Realistic Trades and Surplus Log


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      • kinsmen7
        MVP
        • Mar 2016
        • 1661

        #453
        Re: Official MLB 19 the Show Trade Discussion

        Originally posted by MrSerendipity
        Something like the following should work for Profar:

        MIL REC:
        Jurickson Profar

        OAK REC:
        Mauricio Dubon
        Marcos Diplan



        MIN REC:
        Marcus Stroman

        TOR REC:
        Brusdar Graterol
        Stephen Gonsalves
        Akil Baddoo



        I personally, think Toronto is getting back too much in either scenario. There are some Toronto fans in here who may disagree but Barria is only 22 and posted a 2.6 WAR in his rookie year for LA. Burnes was a Top 100 Prospect in 2017 and posted a positive WAR in his rookie season last year. Burnes is a closer get for Toronto than Barria but I truthfully don't see why either team would swing those. LAA would be foolish to deal Barria right now and Milwaukee can get a better pitcher in return for Burnes than Sanchez.

        You could do either of these deals:

        LAA Receives:
        Aaron Sanchez

        TOR Receives:
        Jose Suarez
        Jordyn Adams

        MIL Receives:
        Aaron Sanchez

        TOR Receives:
        Zack Brown
        Joe Gray

        That is still overpaying if we're going off of Surplus Value. But assuming Sanchez can return to pre-2017 form and is having a good year, you could add an additional lottery piece.



        To be completely honest with you, a deal for any of those guys is going to start with one of Mountcastle, Diaz or Hall which severely hits the Baltimore farm system.
        Agreed. LAA aren't giving up Barria unless it's in a package for a true ace.

        I actually really like both the Stroman to MIN deal, and Sanchez to LAA deal. Makes a lot of sense for both teams. If the Jays fall out of it early, this supplements a system that is pretty thin in the upper minors when it comes to pitching prospects.

        Would it be fine to switch Joe Gray for Lucas Erceg? I'd like to add a lefty thumper to my lineup, and I don't plan on keeping Vlad Jr. at 3rd longterm.
        They're both 50 fv prospects, but Gray is a heck of a lot farther from the majors than Erceg.
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        • SwampFox
          Rookie
          • Aug 2015
          • 58

          #454
          Re: Official MLB 19 the Show Trade Discussion

          Speaking of O'Neill a few trade posts ago, what would be his surplus value? I didn't see him in the chart.

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          • MrSerendipity
            MVP
            • Jun 2013
            • 1397

            #455
            Re: Official MLB 19 the Show Trade Discussion

            Originally posted by kinsmen7
            Agreed. LAA aren't giving up Barria unless it's in a package for a true ace.

            I actually really like both the Stroman to MIN deal, and Sanchez to LAA deal. Makes a lot of sense for both teams. If the Jays fall out of it early, this supplements a system that is pretty thin in the upper minors when it comes to pitching prospects.

            Would it be fine to switch Joe Gray for Lucas Erceg? I'd like to add a lefty thumper to my lineup, and I don't plan on keeping Vlad Jr. at 3rd longterm.
            They're both 50 fv prospects, but Gray is a heck of a lot farther from the majors than Erceg.
            Milwaukee really likes Erceg and see him as their guy at the hot corner in the future so I think you'd have to extend the return from your side if that was the case. It would be nice if Hidalgo had been included in the Full Minors Roster because Milwaukee would have jumped on that exchange. In the mean time, how would you feel about flipping a guy like Biggio back to Milwaukee? He can technically man the hot-corner and he gives them options as a utility guy if that doesn't work out.
            2019 OS Realistic Trades and Surplus Log


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            • kinsmen7
              MVP
              • Mar 2016
              • 1661

              #456
              Re: Official MLB 19 the Show Trade Discussion

              Originally posted by MrSerendipity
              Milwaukee really likes Erceg and see him as their guy at the hot corner in the future so I think you'd have to extend the return from your side if that was the case. It would be nice if Hidalgo had been included in the Full Minors Roster because Milwaukee would have jumped on that exchange. In the mean time, how would you feel about flipping a guy like Biggio back to Milwaukee? He can technically man the hot-corner and he gives them options as a utility guy if that doesn't work out.
              Kind of forgot how close Biggio is. Might end up sticking him at 3B, Vladdy as a DH/1B, Bo at short, and Guerriel at 2B. He and Erceg have similar upside. A 19 year old outfield prospect probably fills my needs more than a 3B that is close to MLB ready.

              Gurriel has 3 errors in 3 games for me though hahaha .
              2025 Expos Expansion:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1295163793

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              • MrSerendipity
                MVP
                • Jun 2013
                • 1397

                #457
                Re: Official MLB 19 the Show Trade Discussion

                Originally posted by SwampFox
                Speaking of O'Neill a few trade posts ago, what would be his surplus value? I didn't see him in the chart.
                You're looking at about 48M.
                2019 OS Realistic Trades and Surplus Log


                ERAZONA (My Diamondbacks Story)

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                • MrSerendipity
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 1397

                  #458
                  Re: Official MLB 19 the Show Trade Discussion

                  Originally posted by kinsmen7
                  Kind of forgot how close Biggio is. Might end up sticking him at 3B, Vladdy as a DH/1B, Bo at short, and Guerriel at 2B. He and Erceg have similar upside. A 19 year old outfield prospect probably fills my needs more than a 3B that is close to MLB ready.

                  Gurriel has 3 errors in 3 games for me though hahaha .
                  I would agree with that sentiment. The Blue Jays are going to have a pretty dynamic infield in the coming years without a need to make any changes.
                  2019 OS Realistic Trades and Surplus Log


                  ERAZONA (My Diamondbacks Story)

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                  • kinsmen7
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 1661

                    #459
                    Re: Official MLB 19 the Show Trade Discussion

                    Originally posted by MrSerendipity
                    I would agree with that sentiment. The Blue Jays are going to have a pretty dynamic infield in the coming years without a need to make any changes.
                    I'm kind of worried that I'll trade Stroman and/or Sanchez, be competitive because of some of the offence, and then immediately want to add someone like Stroman/Sanchez to the rotation closer to the deadline.
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                    • MrSerendipity
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 1397

                      #460
                      Re: Official MLB 19 the Show Trade Discussion

                      Originally posted by kinsmen7
                      I'm kind of worried that I'll trade Stroman and/or Sanchez, be competitive because of some of the offence, and then immediately want to add someone like Stroman/Sanchez to the rotation closer to the deadline.
                      From my perspective, Toronto should only deal one or the other. I would lean toward trading Stroman because he can net you a better return in terms of pitching. Sanchez is still young and if he rebounds, will be of more value to you down the road.
                      2019 OS Realistic Trades and Surplus Log


                      ERAZONA (My Diamondbacks Story)

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                      • kinsmen7
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 1661

                        #461
                        Re: Official MLB 19 the Show Trade Discussion

                        Originally posted by MrSerendipity
                        From my perspective, Toronto should only deal one or the other. I would lean toward trading Stroman because he can net you a better return in terms of pitching. Sanchez is still young and if he rebounds, will be of more value to you down the road.
                        Fair enough. I like both of them, and I love Stroman and his personality, but I like the Minny trade a lot, so I might roll with it when I get home.
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                        • pickle2002
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 273

                          #462
                          Re: Official MLB 19 the Show Trade Discussion

                          Originally posted by MrSerendipity

                          I personally, think Toronto is getting back too much in either scenario. There are some Toronto fans in here who may disagree but Barria is only 22 and posted a 2.6 WAR in his rookie year for LA. Burnes was a Top 100 Prospect in 2017 and posted a positive WAR in his rookie season last year. Burnes is a closer get for Toronto than Barria but I truthfully don't see why either team would swing those. LAA would be foolish to deal Barria right now and Milwaukee can get a better pitcher in return for Burnes than Sanchez.

                          You could do either of these deals:

                          LAA Receives:
                          Aaron Sanchez

                          TOR Receives:
                          Jose Suarez
                          Jordyn Adams

                          MIL Receives:
                          Aaron Sanchez

                          TOR Receives:
                          Zack Brown
                          Joe Gray

                          That is still overpaying if we're going off of Surplus Value. But assuming Sanchez can return to pre-2017 form and is having a good year, you could add an additional lottery piece.
                          Thanks for the reply. I kinda agree with you that Toronto is getting too much back. I was reading back in this thread about other Sanchez deals and I saw the one that you said could work was to San Diego for Josh Naylor (21 yrs, 64 ovr, B pot), Cal Quantrill (24 yrs, 67 ovr, B pot) and you said throw in Jacob Nix (23 yrs, 75 ovr, B pot). Maybe I’m just comparing the stats and potential too much but that’s a lot better offer then mine were in my opinion. I’ll probably just end up doing that trade, but I’m wondering if Sanchez for Barria or Burnes/Peralta straight up would work? I would be willing to throw in a reliever like David Phelps if that would help at all.

                          Thanks
                          Last edited by pickle2002; 04-29-2019, 12:31 PM.

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                          • Beastboy2335
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2017
                            • 78

                            #463
                            Re: Official MLB 19 the Show Trade Discussion

                            Quick Question regarding a Jays Franchise. I'm looking at younger,upside Center field and 3rd base options for Toronto (Vlad as a DH)Addison Russell and Heyward jump out to me, what would a deal for them include? Any other recommendations or possible trade ideas?

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                            • kinsmen7
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 1661

                              #464
                              Re: Official MLB 19 the Show Trade Discussion

                              Originally posted by pickle2002
                              Thanks for the reply. I kinda agree with you that Toronto is getting too much back. I was reading back in this thread about other Sanchez deals and I saw the one that you said could work was to San Diego for Josh Naylor (21 yrs, 64 ovr, B pot), Cal Quantrill (24 yrs, 67 ovr, B pot) and you said throw in Jacob Nix (23 yrs, 75 ovr, B pot). Maybe I’m just comparing the stats and potential too much but that’s a lot better offer then mine were in my opinion. I’ll probably just end up doing that trade, but I’m wondering if Sanchez for Barria or Burnes/Peralta straight up would work? I would be willing to throw in a reliever like David Phelps if that would help at all.

                              Thanks
                              I think the thought is that SD has a dearth of pitching prospects, and none of these guys has really performed at the MLB level, whereas the Angels are thin, have a super high payroll, and finally got a guy with control to come up and perform extremely well (Though his FIP suggests that there could be some regression there). LAA are probably going to try to ride Barria/Canning, and add pitching either via the FA market, or by trading some slightly more mid-range prospects (Jones, Suarez, Adams).

                              Not saying Barria > Sanchez, because I don't think that's true, but I agree with Mr. Serendipity, and don't see them trading away a guy who had a much better season last year than Sanchez. Seems like a trade that adds payroll, loses 5 years of cheap-ish control, and doesn't really improve the team.
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                              • pickle2002
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 273

                                #465
                                Re: Official MLB 19 the Show Trade Discussion

                                Originally posted by kinsmen7
                                I think the thought is that SD has a dearth of pitching prospects, and none of these guys has really performed at the MLB level, whereas the Angels are thin, have a super high payroll, and finally got a guy with control to come up and perform extremely well (Though his FIP suggests that there could be some regression there). LAA are probably going to try to ride Barria/Canning, and add pitching either via the FA market, or by trading some slightly more mid-range prospects (Jones, Suarez, Adams).

                                Not saying Barria > Sanchez, because I don't think that's true, but I agree with Mr. Serendipity, and don't see them trading away a guy who had a much better season last year than Sanchez. Seems like a trade that adds payroll, loses 5 years of cheap-ish control, and doesn't really improve the team.
                                Yeah that’s true. I don’t know why but I really liked the thought of Sanchez to the Angels. It would give them a rotation of Ohtani/Skaggs/Sanchez/Canning/Heaney(or FA) which looks pretty nice. Plus Sanchez is from California so it’s good chance he would resign. But I’ll probably just do the SD trade since I’ll get the best return.

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