Official MLB 19 the Show Trade Discussion

[kinsmen7]

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Looking at deals for Smoak still. Im sitting at May 16. I see his value to be 12.5 but he’s playing excellent with a .270/.355/.558 line with 13 HR and 20 RBI, so I figure I could bump his value a little. Looking at deals with Colorado or the Angels.

Colorado gets: Smoak, Axford

Toronto gets: Tapia.
OR Welker OR Castellani+Lavigne

LAA gets: Smoak

Toronto gets: Thiss + Jordyn Adams.

Not sure on value, or if I am taking to much back. Any input would be great!


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I like the idea Smoak in Colorado, Houston or LAA, but I don't think you're getting much for him based on the non-existent market for 1st basemen.

These teams are getting less than a year of him. IMO, Tapia is more valuable than Smoak right now unfortunately. He was dog$hit in his first two seasons, but looks to have found his stroke this year.

I don't really see a team giving up two 50 FV prospects for him, but could see something like:

LAA:

Theiss+someone in their 25-30

Hou:

Reed+Someone in their 25-30

Col:

Castellani+someone in their 15-20. Maybe they move Tapia for him, and it'd make some sense, but I think I'd feel bad making that move given that we know how he is this season.

I love Smoaky, but just don't see a team giving up one of their top 5 prospects to get him.

Interested to hear what others think though, since I'd probably move him in my Jays franchise.

[BlueJays09]

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I like the idea Smoak in Colorado, Houston or LAA, but I don't think you're getting much for him based on the non-existent market for 1st basemen.



These teams are getting less than a year of him. IMO, Tapia is more valuable than Smoak right now unfortunately. He was dog$hit in his first two seasons, but looks to have found his stroke this year.



I don't really see a team giving up two 50 FV prospects for him, but could see something like:



LAA:



Theiss+someone in their 25-30



Hou:



Reed+Someone in their 25-30



Col:



Castellani+someone in their 15-20. Maybe they move Tapia for him, and it'd make some sense, but I think I'd feel bad making that move given that we know how he is this season.



I love Smoaky, but just don't see a team giving up one of their top 5 prospects to get him.



Interested to hear what others think though, since I'd probably move him in my Jays franchise.

Thanks a lot for this! I definitely agree with you. Was hoping to get a guy like Tapia to help my OF but I do like the suggestions you have mentioned.

I will have a look at all three teams after this game and see what I want to do. It’s so hard because Smoak is valued low as an expiring 1B, but is raking in my franchise. I need to make room for the young guys though!

What could I get for Buccholtz, Richard and Hudson? Both starters have been great with ERAs between 2-3, while Hudson has been key out of the pen with a low 3s ERA. Figure I could get a few prospects back in separate deals for those vets.


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[kinsmen7]

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Thanks a lot for this! I definitely agree with you. Was hoping to get a guy like Tapia to help my OF but I do like the suggestions you have mentioned.

I will have a look at all three teams after this game and see what I want to do. It’s so hard because Smoak is valued low as an expiring 1B, but is raking in my franchise. I need to make room for the young guys though!

What could I get for Buccholtz, Richard and Hudson? Both starters have been great with ERAs between 2-3, while Hudson has been key out of the pen with a low 3s ERA. Figure I could get a few prospects back in separate deals for those vets.


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I mean, Tapia's value isn't great when you look at the calculations here, I just know that he's been playing really well in Colorado, and seems to have turned the corner.

If you're just looking at it from the calculation here, Smoak gets Tapia (Tapia has a career negative WAR), and he'd be a great fit in the outfield. I'd just feel bad doing it I think.

[BlueJays09]

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I mean, Tapia's value isn't great when you look at the calculations here, I just know that he's been playing really well in Colorado, and seems to have turned the corner.



If you're just looking at it from the calculation here, Smoak gets Tapia (Tapia has a career negative WAR), and he'd be a great fit in the outfield. I'd just feel bad doing it I think.

Yea I feel you. I’ll go for the deal outline that you suggested. Any ideas on the second part regarding the pitchers?


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[TexSkins]

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New to The Show so I do appreciate all the work all of you put in to make a more immersive experience.

Was about to look for a house rules type of thread and stumbled across this. Seems like a fair and controlled concept. Was about to start a new franchise with the Yankees and a tough rebuild in the NL (maybe the marlins).

I’ll be back if I need some guidance on trades.

[UNDERTAKER1215]

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Does Dustin Pedroia have any value whatsoever? I really want to start the season with Chavis as my starting second baseman, so if I need to, I'll just manually injure Pedroia but I'd rather trade him for anything, even if it's just a minor league depth guy or something.

I know we tend to stick to real life stats as far as value goes, but in game he still has excellent contact and fielding attributes and decent power so he still has value as far as that goes.

The only team I even see potential for are the Angels. If Pedroia went to the Angels, he would start at second, with Fletcher moving to third, and Cozart being the utility guy, or I could take Cozart back as a way to make up for the Angels taking on Pedroia's salary, and he would serve as the utility guy and maybe split time with Devers at third. Holt would go to AAA and Nunez would see more bench time.

I know I'm reaching here, but I really want Chavis in the majors like real life (he's been a favorite of mine since he was drafted), and don't want to outright release Pedroia.

[bobbyb9827]

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What would it take to get Stroman to the Yankees? Blue Jays are out of it, and he's pitching to around a 3.4 ERA.

obviously I'd have to pay a premium within the division, just not sure where to start.

[kinsmen7]

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Does Dustin Pedroia have any value whatsoever? I really want to start the season with Chavis as my starting second baseman, so if I need to, I'll just manually injure Pedroia but I'd rather trade him for anything, even if it's just a minor league depth guy or something.

I know we tend to stick to real life stats as far as value goes, but in game he still has excellent contact and fielding attributes and decent power so he still has value as far as that goes.

The only team I even see potential for are the Angels. If Pedroia went to the Angels, he would start at second, with Fletcher moving to third, and Cozart being the utility guy, or I could take Cozart back as a way to make up for the Angels taking on Pedroia's salary, and he would serve as the utility guy and maybe split time with Devers at third. Holt would go to AAA and Nunez would see more bench time.

I know I'm reaching here, but I really want Chavis in the majors like real life (he's been a favorite of mine since he was drafted), and don't want to outright release Pedroia.

Pedroia has negative value (-$2.5), so you'd probably need to include an asset to move him. Cozart still has a bit of surplus value ($6.5).

Would you consider keeping Pedroia as a bench player?

[kinsmen7]

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Looking to add some thump to my lineup.

Eric Thames has a surplus of $7.6 mil.

I'd like to move Miguel Rojas ($29.4). He could fill their hole at 2B.

Was thinking something along the lines of:

Miami
Rojas

Milwaukee
Thames
Supak
Gatewood

I'm not really too concerned about who the prospects are to be honest. Thames would play 1st so that I can ease Bobby Bradley up, and then fill in as my 4th outfielder given the continual decline of my poor beloved GrandyMan (Started .349/.390ish/.500 ish with 10 bombs, and is now .249/.290/.388 with and has only hit 1 more).

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While we're on the Smoak topic, is it too much for him to net Clint Frazier from the Yankees? If so, what type of return would I be looking at from them? It's mid-july and Smoak is an All Star with 19 HR, 49 RBI, .288 AVG.

I mean, Tapia's value isn't great when you look at the calculations here, I just know that he's been playing really well in Colorado, and seems to have turned the corner.

If you're just looking at it from the calculation here, Smoak gets Tapia (Tapia has a career negative WAR), and he'd be a great fit in the outfield. I'd just feel bad doing it I think.

[UNDERTAKER1215]

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Pedroia has negative value (-$2.5), so you'd probably need to include an asset to move him. Cozart still has a bit of surplus value ($6.5).

Would you consider keeping Pedroia as a bench player?

I'd rather not do that just because it wouldn't seem right, but in real life, I have a feeling if Chavis continues hitting the way he has been, that will be the most likely scenario, or Pedroia retires but I doubt that'll happen.

Plus the other downside of that is he has only ever played 2B and a handful of games at SS. I'd rather have someone who could at least player the entire infield like Nunez, Holt, and even though he would be the main second baseman, Chavis.

I'll probably just injure him for the year or something, but I will consider him for the bench or just rolling with him to start.

[Coldarmy13]

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Any ideas for someone looking possibly start up a Rays franchise? Particularly moves to improve the line up and maybe bring in some veteran bats to compliment all the young players. Outfield is a bit crowded but maybe a Jose Martinez as more of a DH? Any other upgrade ideas would be welcome. Not in love with the infield.

[kinsmen7]

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While we're on the Smoak topic, is it too much for him to net Clint Frazier from the Yankees? If so, what type of return would I be looking at from them? It's mid-july and Smoak is an All Star with 19 HR, 49 RBI, .288 AVG.

Yes, Clint Frazier is too much.

He was a TOP top prospect within the last year or two, and the Yanks have no reason to move him unless it's in a package to get better pitching, or a much better first baseman than Smoak. Remember that all you're giving them is 2 or 3 months of a slightly above average 1B.

I'd compare this to the JA Happ trade last year, where they got a couple of reasonably OK players, but nobody with the ceiling that Frazier has.

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How does everyone calculate surplus value for players with arbitration years left? For example, I tried calculating Ryan Tepera with an average arbitration award of 2.5M/yr. I ended up with a surplus value close to 20. On the other hand, with Ken Giles, using a similar arbitration approach, I get a negative surplus value. Somehow Tepera seems too high and Giles too low.

My gut would tell me Tepera is somewhere in the 10M range while Giles is in the 6-7M.

[Dakotabt09]

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Earlier in the (10 pages roughly ago) thread I asked about values values on a couple of relievers. I now sit at June 1 and we’re 26th in ERA with a 4.64 and lead the leauge in Blown Saves at a whopping 17. I would really like to get Trienen from the A’s could I send A package built around Wander Javier?