Official MLB 19 the Show Trade Discussion

[Gagnon39]

Official MLB 19 the Show Trade Discussion

I’m wanting to get some thoughts on the market for Addison Russell. Again, as always, please keep in mind what’s relevant is each of our games, not how these players are performing in real life.

With that being said, I do want to assume that the reality of his suspension is in effect in my game. In fact, I just recently called him up after a short stint at Triple-A.

He’s really been pretty average for me overall but he’s still young (25) and is an A potential middle infielder. I don’t assume his value to he super high, but at the same time, I’m thinking a mid-tier team that’s in need of a shortstop or second basemen would be willing to part with at least one valuable prospect or some quality pitching.

Russell is hitting .241 with a .353 OBP in just 9 games (29 at-bats). He has 1 home run and 4 RBI. Again, keep in mind he’s 25, is an above average fielder and has won a World Series.

Any chance a team like the Nationals part with someone like Carter Kieboom?


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[Daonlyjmo7]

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I’m wanting to get some thoughts on the market for Addison Russell. Again, as always, please keep in mind what’s relevant is each of our games, not how these players are performing in real life.

With that being said, I do want to assume that the reality of his suspension is in effect in my game. In fact, I just recently called him up after a short stint at Triple-A.

He’s really been pretty average for me overall but he’s still young (25) and is an A potential middle infielder. I don’t assume his value to he super high, but at the same time, I’m thinking a mid-tier team that’s in need of a shortstop or second basemen would be willing to part with at least one valuable prospect or some quality pitching.

Russell is hitting .241 with a .353 OBP in just 9 games (29 at-bats). He has 1 home run and 4 RBI. Again, keep in mind he’s 25, is an above average fielder and has won a World Series.

Any chance a team like the Nationals part with someone like Carter Kieboom?


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If you are including the suspension then his market is nonexistent. No team would really want to take on that burden unless it was for basically free. You aren’t going to get anything return, and definitely not one of the top prospects in baseball. Even if you are saying no suspension, Kieboom is way out of reach. Why would the nationals trade an MLB ready shortstop for a worse guy at the same position?


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[kinsmen7]

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I’m wanting to get some thoughts on the market for Addison Russell. Again, as always, please keep in mind what’s relevant is each of our games, not how these players are performing in real life.

With that being said, I do want to assume that the reality of his suspension is in effect in my game. In fact, I just recently called him up after a short stint at Triple-A.

He’s really been pretty average for me overall but he’s still young (25) and is an A potential middle infielder. I don’t assume his value to he super high, but at the same time, I’m thinking a mid-tier team that’s in need of a shortstop or second basemen would be willing to part with at least one valuable prospect or some quality pitching.

Russell is hitting .241 with a .353 OBP in just 9 games (29 at-bats). He has 1 home run and 4 RBI. Again, keep in mind he’s 25, is an above average fielder and has won a World Series.

Any chance a team like the Nationals part with someone like Carter Kieboom?


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This place has been pretty harsh towards domestic abusers (and rightfully so IMO).

I know MrSerendipity released him, and allowed whomever to pick him up.

Looking back, I feel like Russell's surplus, before accounting for his suspension, is along the lines of $40.5 mil.

Kieboom's is $65.6.

If Washington was trading for Russell, there would be no chance you were landing anyone significant. Look at the Jays trading away Osuna last year. He had similar value as Russell at the time, and got back a reasonably good reliever that the team had soured on (Giles), a prospect that hasn't been able to stay healthy or produce in the majors (Paulino), and another fringy prospect arm (Perez). Nothing overly exciting.

[Gagnon39]

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I see a lot of discussion about surplus value. I’m not sure I understand what that is. Can someone explain?

And I’ll just hang onto Russell for the time being.


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[kinsmen7]

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I see a lot of discussion about surplus value. I’m not sure I understand what that is. Can someone explain?

And I’ll just hang onto Russell for the time being.


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I'm sure Bard or MrSerendipity could explain it a bit better, but I'll take a stab at it.

Surplus value is essentially a dollar value assigned to a player, which is calculated by taking into account the players average WAR, remaining years on their contract, and the money that they're still owed.

For prospects, it's calculated as a comparison with their top 100 prospect ranking, and their FV (future value).

There's a formula to calculate on the first post of this page, that was put together by Bard, and MrSerendipity has kept a pretty great spreadsheet with most MLB players already calculated, plus there's a top 100 prospects tab, plus there's a list of trades that have been approved so far:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...EeU/edit#gid=0

[Wayne510]

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Okay in my A's franchise I'm not going to make the playoffs so I'm looking to trade Blake Treinen teams that i've been looking to trade him to are Red Sox, Pirates, Braves, Cubs, Padres & Twins what would packages from those teams look like? Thanks

[boxers]

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These are 2 trades I made in my Blue Jays franchise, both to division or wild card leaders:

Trade 1: 1B Justin Smoak (.288 AVG, 19 HR, 49 RBI), RHP Daniel Hudson (0-0, 15 IP, 10 Ks, 7.80 ERA, 2.20 WHIP), RHP Corey Copping to Rockies; minor league OF Yonathan Daza (.295 AVG, 8 HR, 34 RBI), minor league RHP Ryan Castellani (7-7, 100.2 IP, 90 Ks, 2.86 ERA, 1.34 WHIP)

Trade 2: RHP Marcus Stroman, IF Santiago Espinal to Phillies; RHP Enyel De Los Santos, minor league LHP Cole Irvin, minor league OF Mickey Moniak

I don't have 30 team control on, so I was limited by what the CPU would accept. In the case of Stroman, it was either get a 50-100 prospect or a couple of 5-20 organizational prospects. All of the above are projected no higher than 50 FV.

[MrSerendipity]

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I'm sure Bard or MrSerendipity could explain it a bit better, but I'll take a stab at it.

Surplus value is essentially a dollar value assigned to a player, which is calculated by taking into account the players average WAR, remaining years on their contract, and the money that they're still owed.

For prospects, it's calculated as a comparison with their top 100 prospect ranking, and their FV (future value).

There's a formula to calculate on the first post of this page, that was put together by Bard, and MrSerendipity has kept a pretty great spreadsheet with most MLB players already calculated, plus there's a top 100 prospects tab, plus there's a list of trades that have been approved so far:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...EeU/edit#gid=0

No need to follow-up on this, great explanation of the formula. I've done a poor job of managing the approved trades as of late as life has been busy but I hope to go back and update it in short time.

[Councilmann_Jamm]

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Thoughts on Nicholas Castellano. I'm in year 2 (2019) of my carry over save.

I'm at start of June so I did .70 instead of 1 for years on contract.

1 year = 2.1 x 9 x 1 = 18.9 - 7 = $11.9 value

.70 = 2.1 x 9 x .70 = 13.23 - 7 = $6.2 value

I'm going of $6.2 value and teams looking at his bat are Brewers, Dodgers, Yankees

Brewers have Corey Ray, Christian Yellich, Lorenzo Cain (60 DL), Carlos Gomez

Dodgers have Corey Bellingrr, Joc Pederson, Alex Verdugo, Andrew Toles

Yankees have Aaron Judge, Aaron Hicks, Mike Stanton (DH), Brett Gardner...as well as Billy McKinnley in the minors.


Thinking 2 Prospects between 10-18 by each team should suffice.

Any thoughts?

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[TheJoker12]

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Looking to possibly add Josh Hader to the Red Sox (since Milwaukee is in last in the NL Central in my franchise), wonder what you think the cost would be for that.

Also, potentially moving on from JBJ (who is actually having a good season fro me) and Price in the offseason...realistically would probably get more for Price but see his surplus is a lot lower?

[kinsmen7]

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Caleb Smith is having a similar season for me as he is IRL. I'm at the 1st of June, and if there's a chance of trading him for a significant haul, it would cement my farm system as one of the top 5 in baseball.

He's obviously not well established, but is showing no signs of slowing down, and his peripherals are all very good. What are our thoughts on his value? 5 years of cheap team control for a team like the Pads could make a ton of sense.

[MrSerendipity]

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Thoughts on Nicholas Castellano. I'm in year 2 (2019) of my carry over save.

I'm at start of June so I did .70 instead of 1 for years on contract.

1 year = 2.1 x 9 x 1 = 18.9 - 7 = $11.9 value

.70 = 2.1 x 9 x .70 = 13.23 - 7 = $6.2 value

I'm going of $6.2 value and teams looking at his bat are Brewers, Dodgers, Yankees

Brewers have Corey Ray, Christian Yellich, Lorenzo Cain (60 DL), Carlos Gomez

Dodgers have Corey Bellingrr, Joc Pederson, Alex Verdugo, Andrew Toles

Yankees have Aaron Judge, Aaron Hicks, Mike Stanton (DH), Brett Gardner...as well as Billy McKinnley in the minors.


Thinking 2 Prospects between 10-18 by each team should suffice.

Any thoughts?

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I'm thinking the same. Castellanos has more upside than his value would suggest so I think you're safe in your estimate for his return.

Hi, I’m the Brewers & I decided to sim to the offseason. I need a new catcher since Grandal left. I was wondering what a fair trade would be for Francisco Mejia? Thanks!

I genuinely don't know why the Padres would deal Mejia. He's 23 and they just acquired him last year when he was a Top 10 Prospect. You would have to send them somewhere around 70M in value for him. I just don't think this is realistic.

Looking to possibly add Josh Hader to the Red Sox (since Milwaukee is in last in the NL Central in my franchise), wonder what you think the cost would be for that.

Also, potentially moving on from JBJ (who is actually having a good season fro me) and Price in the offseason...realistically would probably get more for Price but see his surplus is a lot lower?

Hader is going to cost somewhere around 80M. You would literally have to roll out the red carpet and let Milwaukee do their thing to get him. I'm not sure Milwaukee is really in a position, even with a losing season, that they'd want to trade him away. He averaged 2 WAR in his first two seasons.

JBJ gives you about 31M in value, enough to build a small package that could be headlined by a guy in 75-100 range.

Caleb Smith is having a similar season for me as he is IRL. I'm at the 1st of June, and if there's a chance of trading him for a significant haul, it would cement my farm system as one of the top 5 in baseball.

He's obviously not well established, but is showing no signs of slowing down, and his peripherals are all very good. What are our thoughts on his value? 5 years of cheap team control for a team like the Pads could make a ton of sense.

I don't think you're going to get anything overly considerate here. He's playing really well this year but has two seasons of an average .1 WAR. He's also 27, so you're not really getting the benefit of dealing a young-young performing arm. If he's just really in the zone in your franchise, I could see flipping him for 15M maybe? But I don't think there's enough evidence that this season's Caleb is who you're getting for five years, as opposed to last year.

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I think a significant haul would be tough IRL if you're thinking top 100 prospect. I'm not great at valuing trades but a 27 year old with less than 30 career starts and 4 organizations having given up on him could maybe net you a 10-15 organizational prospect (45-50 FV) and a lottery ticket from a club with a deep farm system.

I might be undervaluing Smith but my sense is he would have to put in a full season or more with good numbers before he is of any significant value to a team. I definitely think a team would bite in the off-season, given his ceiling.

edit:Mr Serendipity beat me to it

Caleb Smith is having a similar season for me as he is IRL. I'm at the 1st of June, and if there's a chance of trading him for a significant haul, it would cement my farm system as one of the top 5 in baseball.

He's obviously not well established, but is showing no signs of slowing down, and his peripherals are all very good. What are our thoughts on his value? 5 years of cheap team control for a team like the Pads could make a ton of sense.

[kinsmen7]

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I don't think you're going to get anything overly considerate here. He's playing really well this year but has two seasons of an average .1 WAR. He's also 27, so you're not really getting the benefit of dealing a young-young performing arm. If he's just really in the zone in your franchise, I could see flipping him for 15M maybe? But I don't think there's enough evidence that this season's Caleb is who you're getting for five years, as opposed to last year.

That's fair. I'm a bit biased right now, but if were a similar pitcher on another team, I'd probably say the same thing ($15ish).

Given my current standing (2nd in NL East ), it would have been hard for me to trade him away anyway, and wouldn't have made much sense. He's a pretty big lotto ticket at this point. It'll be interesting to see how we value him next year if he keeps this up though!

[Rocket32]

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Looking to possibly add Josh Hader to the Red Sox (since Milwaukee is in last in the NL Central in my franchise), wonder what you think the cost would be for that.

Also, potentially moving on from JBJ (who is actually having a good season fro me) and Price in the offseason...realistically would probably get more for Price but see his surplus is a lot lower?

Realistically I don’t think a guy like Hader would be going anywhere no matter what happens this season. According to spotrac he’s under team control through 2023. They’d have him for 4 more years after this one. Not much reason to move a guy like that unless you’re offered an absolute haul for him that’s hard to refuse.

Even with an ugly season this year, they wouldn’t really be in a hopeless situation, like say Miami, where there’s pretty much no hope of contending and winning anything anytime soon.