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  • MrArlingtonBeach
    MVP
    • Feb 2009
    • 4530

    #61
    Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

    Originally posted by tabarnes19
    I've never seen a CPU extension. I think it is only human. They extend during arbitration and renewable as in the past.

    I actually prefer it that way.

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    • adamj2281
      Pro
      • Mar 2008
      • 814

      #62
      Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

      Just ran several runs with updated rosters (the CRP early set) with real salaries. Trade logic wasn't too bad, deadline moves included Votto to a contending team (I cannot remember which one right now) for 3 prospects (2 A, 1 B I believe). Whitfield moving for prospects, and a few other veteran swaps for roughly even money.

      The main issue is the arb dollars being too low, which basically nullifies the one thing they added (Contract Extensions) - there's no reason to extend a player with their arb years left, as they ask for way more than what those years would entail.

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      • Ghost Of The Year
        Turn Left. Repeat.
        • Mar 2014
        • 6382

        #63
        Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

        Salaries are capped at 31 million a year, max. Can that be patched to be at least 34 or 35 million a year, max?
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        • tessl
          All Star
          • Apr 2007
          • 5685

          #64
          Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

          Have you noticed any difference in team budget for a carry over save vs a new franchise with both having realistic salaries?

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          • boxers
            Pro
            • Jul 2004
            • 625

            #65
            Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

            Originally posted by MrArlingtonBeach
            Sorry to ask again, but in the simulations you're running, does the CPU extend any contracts for their players in season?
            Tabarnes already answered this, but I'll second that I haven't seen any extensions by the CPU. Players seem to accept any reasonable offer, so this may be a good thing that they aren't using extensions.

            Originally posted by tessl
            Have you noticed any difference in team budget for a carry over save vs a new franchise with both having realistic salaries?
            OSFM seemed slightly lower but I was looking at different teams -- not quite apples to apples. That said, all the budgets I did see were north of $150M.
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            • Rocket32
              MVP
              • May 2016
              • 1639

              #66
              Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

              Since people have done some testing already, is it safe to start a franchise using real contracts or should people who plan to play multiple seasons hold off for now??

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              • moTIGS
                Pro
                • Jun 2003
                • 569

                #67
                Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

                Originally posted by tessl
                Have you noticed any difference in team budget for a carry over save vs a new franchise with both having realistic salaries?
                I haven’t looked too much into carryover franchises, but I did notice a troubling issue that may prevent me from playing my old franchise in 2019.

                My 2018 save is at the end of the 2032 season. If I carry that file over to 2019 and start the off-season, most of my contracts are reset. Some aren’t a huge issue, but I have an aging SP who should be a free agent (who I don’t plan to resign), but when I carry over, his contract resets at $20+ million for several years. Kills my budget, and that contract will be difficult to unload.

                Don’t know yet if this occurs with carryover saves at the start of a season, though.

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                • zippy2212
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 1095

                  #68
                  Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

                  Messing with extensions in my carryover save I noticed a couple of interesting things.

                  One was that players who had multiyear deals that were previously back loaded are mostly now "normal". Another interesting thing was I players were pretty set on the amounts they would accept.
                  2 examples where a 70 ovr renewable player who wanted 580k wouldn't sign if I tried to make it a multiyear deal.
                  The other player, who I am going to extend, is 90 ovr catcher who is in his last year of Arb. When I resigned him in the offseason of 18 he wanted 27.5M/yr. Now he won't sign for less than 31/yr. He's 28 and his interest also goes down the longer I try to make the contract.

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                  • chazbedlam
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 16

                    #69
                    Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

                    This might be a stupid question, but what if you shut off the budgets in franchise mode? Isn't that an option? I have been playing franchise mode since the show 14 and haven't ever tried a franchise with no budgets, but if this "feature" is really breaking the game this badly, maybe that's a way to go.

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                    • Still2REal
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 370

                      #70
                      Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

                      I only buy this game every other year so my last title was '17 but I don't see how this is such a big issue. They haven't made a single notable improvement to franchise mode since I started playing in '07. I'm glad they at least tried something this year. These contract inconsistencies aren't game breaking at all.

                      Nobody has been more flabbergasted at the annual praise this game gets every year here on this site, but this particular line of criticism seems odd.

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                      • tabarnes19_SDS
                        Game Designer
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 3084

                        #71
                        Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

                        The roster editor trick works to give default contacts. As expected the salary algorithm has not changed as the cou assigns a salary based on overall, age potential and the values are very low. Like last year. I'm in the process of converting them all to default to test sim engine after default.

                        Really disappointing they changed the salaries without adjusting the engine. We always had the ability to edit it.

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                        • tabarnes19_SDS
                          Game Designer
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 3084

                          #72
                          Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

                          I uploaded a roster edited to be to scale with 18 salary figures under my name. Tabarnes19.

                          Going to run some tests comparing that to live roster unedited.

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                          • ninertravel
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 4833

                            #73
                            Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

                            Originally posted by Nikko25
                            Not surprised. They don't care about Franchise any more. They did so little to the mode they didnt even have a stream on it, the ONE improvement they announced doesn't even work. Franchise is untouched. Been the same mode for 5 years now.


                            I really love the show. Been playing it year round and here reading about it for almost 10 years now. For a game that's fans like to call it the best sports game it doesnt deserve that title anymore. It does not offer a remotely realistic Franchise mode. Contracts have not been accurate EVER. One of the biggest parts of todays game in real life is international scouting, in the show you pick these players in a 7 round draft with all the other prospects. You literally "scout" for 2 months do a little draft and that's it, no other way to get young talented players.


                            Don't even get me started on the damn "Your team can no longer afford the contract offered to..."
                            you know whats sad?? I listen too the effecive wild podcats who are really damm good, they give non mainstream and analytics subjects anyway they did a interview with Ramone the other day and another guy. this guy was going on and on about DD mode and how it's better and made the game better and he was too lazy to play 162 games and do the
                            grind

                            this is a baseball podcast for hardcore fans that go deep into the game, and even then they were carrying on about DD mode being everything and the reason to buy the game, it was depressing to hear

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                            • OldHossRadbourn
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 453

                              #74
                              Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

                              This is flat out embarrassing by SDS

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                              • tessl
                                All Star
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 5685

                                #75
                                Re: Free Agent Contracts Undervalued

                                Originally posted by moTIGS
                                I haven’t looked too much into carryover franchises, but I did notice a troubling issue that may prevent me from playing my old franchise in 2019.

                                My 2018 save is at the end of the 2032 season. If I carry that file over to 2019 and start the off-season, most of my contracts are reset. Some aren’t a huge issue, but I have an aging SP who should be a free agent (who I don’t plan to resign), but when I carry over, his contract resets at $20+ million for several years. Kills my budget, and that contract will be difficult to unload.

                                Don’t know yet if this occurs with carryover saves at the start of a season, though.
                                That is odd. Are you sure you don't have it set to auto for contracts?

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