Another Year of the Show Completely Wasted

Collapse

Recommended Videos

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Padgoi
    Banned
    • Oct 2008
    • 1873

    #1

    Another Year of the Show Completely Wasted

    Once again, it's November and I find myself searching for a game to play. Why? Because once again, the Show has failed to deliver for me what I would consider a realistic, organic representation of baseball. This has literally become an annual happenstance for me and the worst part is that it could EASILY be avoided. Let me list what I feel is absolutely dragging this title down, in no particular order:

    Patches - I'm the kind of guy that won't play unless the game feels realistic to me. What frustrates me to NO END is when the developers release a patch, I rework my sliders, finally get to the point where I feel the game is playing well, and they release ANOTHER 20 patches up through November, all of which CLEARLY affect gameplay even thought the patch notes make no mention of it. And before some of you say that the patches don't affect gameplay, let me just say that when patch 1.22 landed, I was playing on Legend with pitch speed at 5 and it was solid. After patch 1.23, I had to raise pitch speed . . . TO TEN!!! I didn't just magically get 5 notches better. That patch CLEARLY affected gameplay, even though the patch notes didn't mention it at all. And because of that, I now have to stop, rework my DAMN SLIDERS IN NOVEMBER, PLAY MORE PRACTICE GAMES TO MAKE SURE THE DAMN SLIDERS ARE GOOD, and then continue? I'm not going through that in November when the next game releases in less than 4 months.

    Team Rankings - they simply dictate too much. If you're using a team like the Yankees, guess what - you're doing well. You can play like absolute dirt, it won't matter. Your pitchers will be unhittable. You will be successful. Why? Because the Yankees are a highly ranked team.

    Game Engine - honestly, I'm done with it. You can tell me until you're blue in the face that there isn't any type of mechanism involved that boosts the skill level of the losing team, but it is literally EVIDENT IN EVERY SINGLE GAME I PLAY. Now, this is NOT catchup AI, no no. The developers are too smart for that. The losing team gets a boost, it's that simple. If you're up 1-0, it's not as evident, but if you're up 2-0 or more, that's when it becomes very obvious. Umpires squeezing their zones on you. Ground balls conveniently taking tricky hops and getting past infielders. Wild pitches. Perfectly timed batted balls ALL going right to fielders for literally AN ENTIRE GAME! It doesn't matter. The losing team has a boost in ratings to make the game more competitive. It's the same if you're losing. All of a sudden, the CPU can't throw a strike (I've literally had 5 consecutive walks issues to me to try and get back in the game) or the CPU starts throwing meatballs. This isn't every 5 games. It's EVERY SINGLE GAME. The engine honestly is BROKEN. The AI needs a complete and utter overhaul because as currently constructed, the game feels about as inorganic as RBI baseball. I'm happy some of you are having fun with the game, but on Legend difficulty, the game is plain bad. And I've tried other difficulties . . . the CPU is just way too dumb for my tastes on lower levels. They play with zero urgency.

    The worst part about ALL of this is that the game, every year, plays great when you first buy it, but the damn patches make it play like last year's version because the tweenie boppers complain and naturally the developers have to listen to their largest demographic to appease their DD populace. Honestly, I've had it. Another year down the tubes.

    See you guys in March.
  • Turbojugend
    MVP
    • Sep 2013
    • 2242

    #2
    Re: Another Year of the Show Completely Wasted

    Originally posted by Padgoi
    See you guys in March.
    Hopefully not.
    www.heyimbill.com | sports poster art and other cool stuff

    Comment

    • brunopuntzjones
      Pro
      • Jul 2018
      • 651

      #3
      Re: Another Year of the Show Completely Wasted

      Honestly if you played this game for six months and hated it for a good chunk of that time, the problem is not the game.

      Comment

      • dalger21
        #realtalk
        • Feb 2010
        • 1932

        #4
        Re: Another Year of the Show Completely Wasted

        No disrespect (which of course means copious amounts of disrespect)but you do complain a lot about the game year in and year out. It may be time to find something else to play as it doesn't seem like you will ever be satisfied with whatever SDS does with the game.
        est 1978

        Comment

        • Brewers 15
          Rookie
          • Mar 2015
          • 115

          #5
          Re: Another Year of the Show Completely Wasted

          Originally posted by Turbojugend
          Hopefully not.
          Why because he is correct and nobody else wants to admit it or maybe are willing to accept the downfalls of this game year after year ? ( especially the last 2 years). Certainly you are entitled to your views but there is no doubt very accurate points to what he says and I am glad someone is willing to give them feedback that it needs to improve.

          Comment

          • Padgoi
            Banned
            • Oct 2008
            • 1873

            #6
            Re: Another Year of the Show Completely Wasted

            Originally posted by Turbojugend
            Hopefully not.
            I'm sorry you only want to see the good things about the game. You should probably open up your mind a bit.

            Originally posted by brunopuntzjones
            Honestly if you played this game for six months and hated it for a good chunk of that time, the problem is not the game.
            If you bothered actually reading the OP, you'd see that I DIDN'T hate it. I hated it when they started releasing patches that completely changed the was the game played halfway through the damn game cycle.

            Originally posted by dalger21
            No disrespect (which of course means copious amounts of disrespect)but you do complain a lot about the game year in and year out. It may be time to find something else to play as it doesn't seem like you will ever be satisfied with whatever SDS does with the game.
            I only complain because I love baseball and while it is the best baseball game I've ever played, there are simply GLARING issues preventing it from really being a realistic representation of the game we all love.

            Comment

            • KnightTemplar
              MVP
              • Feb 2017
              • 3282

              #7
              Re: Another Year of the Show Completely Wasted

              "......Game Engine - honestly, I'm done with it. You can tell me until you're blue in the face that there isn't any type of mechanism involved that boosts the skill level of the losing team, but it is literally EVIDENT IN EVERY SINGLE GAME I PLAY. Now, this is NOT catchup AI, no no. The developers are too smart for that....."

              Groan (my opinion).

              Comment

              • Padgoi
                Banned
                • Oct 2008
                • 1873

                #8
                Re: Another Year of the Show Completely Wasted

                Originally posted by KnightTemplar
                "......Game Engine - honestly, I'm done with it. You can tell me until you're blue in the face that there isn't any type of mechanism involved that boosts the skill level of the losing team, but it is literally EVIDENT IN EVERY SINGLE GAME I PLAY. Now, this is NOT catchup AI, no no. The developers are too smart for that....."

                Groan (my opinion).
                You're entitled.

                Comment

                • JoshC1977
                  All Star
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 11564

                  #9
                  Re: Another Year of the Show Completely Wasted

                  Let me understand this....you want to blame the online H2H DD crowd for "ruining" the game ("to appease their DD populace" being your exact words) when your laundry list of gameplay complaints read almost verbatim like a copy-paste from one of their Twitter feeds.

                  Interesting......
                  Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

                  Comment

                  • Padgoi
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1873

                    #10
                    Re: Another Year of the Show Completely Wasted

                    Originally posted by JoshC1977
                    Let me understand this....you want to blame the online H2H DD crowd for "ruining" the game ("to appease their DD populace" being your exact words) when your laundry list of gameplay complaints read almost verbatim like a copy-paste from one of their Twitter feeds.

                    Interesting......
                    I actually don't read Twitter. My point is . . . wait . . . the Twitter people are complaining that the latest patch is too easy and that the patch notes aren't all inclusive and that the boost in level for the team losing is pathetic and that the game is totally inorganic? I was more referring to the DD crowd.

                    Comment

                    • JoshC1977
                      All Star
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 11564

                      #11
                      Re: Another Year of the Show Completely Wasted

                      Originally posted by Padgoi
                      I was more referring to the DD crowd.
                      So was I.....

                      How you capture things has a slightly different spin, but the themes are the same:

                      - input-to-output correlation
                      - "RNG"
                      - "scripting"
                      - "hidden patch changes"

                      They complain about them ALL year....

                      MLB The Show is FAR closer to a Role Playing Game than an action-focused game. For many of us here on OS, that is incredibly desirable. However, it's not compatible with what many people in the competitive audience (and I believe yourself) want (which frankly is more of an RBI baseball kind of experience where user skill dominates).
                      Last edited by JoshC1977; 11-13-2019, 04:16 PM.
                      Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

                      Comment

                      • SmashMan
                        All Star
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 9711

                        #12
                        Re: Another Year of the Show Completely Wasted

                        If they're not delivering the game you want, stop buying it.

                        You say this is an annual occurrence for you, which means you should be smart enough by now to avoid buying a product that you know you will ultimately be frustrated with.

                        Not everyone likes every game ever made. It's okay, it happens. Check back in periodically and buy the game when it has more of the things you're looking for.

                        Comment

                        • jr86
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 1728

                          #13
                          Re: Another Year of the Show Completely Wasted

                          Whenever I see you have started a thread I think we all know what's coming so:

                          Here's an idea:
                          Wait until the very last patch is released and then pick up the game. Not only will you not have anything to compare the game to from previous patches but you also get it cheap....Happy days!

                          Comment

                          • Rmiok222
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 3129

                            #14
                            Another Year of the Show Completely Wasted

                            This post really backfired lol.

                            I know you’re entitled to your opinion, I respect that. At the same time if you don’t find The Show as even just “playable” I don’t know what to tell you. This is the only game I can play year round and I’ll be the first to admit I get some serious slideritis with a lot of games that I play, it’s like a curse. The show is the only game I can go back to a lot of times and enjoy. I also think people forget that this is a video game and they want EXACTLY 8.7 hits per game, 3.8 runs and everybody’s ERA that floats around 3.70. Which is where sample size comes in to play, and a lot of people don’t truly play a whole season to get an adequate sample size. I’m not saying you do these things, but a baseball season is very, very long and it’s a game of streaks.


                            Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
                            Last edited by Rmiok222; 11-13-2019, 05:46 PM.

                            Comment

                            • Armor and Sword
                              The Lama
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 21790

                              #15
                              Re: Another Year of the Show Completely Wasted

                              I play on HOF and most know my approach.

                              I have not had to touch a slider since May.

                              Go figure.


                              Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
                              Now Playing on PS5:
                              CFB 26 Hurricanes/Fresno State Year 2
                              MLB The Show 25 - 2025 Yankees Year 1
                              MLB The Show 25 1985 Yankees Year 1
                              Oblivion Remaster



                              Follow me on Twitch
                              https://www.twitch.tv/armorandsword

                              Comment

                              Working...