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  • #1
    tessl
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    • Apr 2007
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    Franchise changes


    From what I've deciphered so far.

    Full minor rosters.
    In order to get it right I'm guessing they have also reworked scouting and the June draft in order to supply the 30 rounds of prospects necessary to sustain a franchise in future years.

    Relocation/re-branding. Speaks for itself and by the way today 2/7 is the final day to export your logos to the vault so you can use them in mlbts20.

    I think I saw in a promo for upcoming streams realignment.

    Obviously new fielding and hitting dynamics will impact franchise.
  • #2
    Funkycorm
    Cleveland Baseball Guru
    • Nov 2016
    • 3162

    Re: Franchise changes


    Re: Franchise changes

    Originally posted by tessl
    From what I've deciphered so far.

    Full minor rosters.
    In order to get it right I'm guessing they have also reworked scouting and the June draft in order to supply the 30 rounds of prospects necessary to sustain a franchise in future years.

    Relocation/re-branding. Speaks for itself and by the way today 2/7 is the final day to export your logos to the vault so you can use them in mlbts20.

    I think I saw in a promo for upcoming streams realignment.

    Obviously new fielding and hitting dynamics will impact franchise.
    I don't envision them touching scouting this year. If they make the full minors be real minor leaguers but keep the roster capacity at 90, they would not need to add to the draft.

    Now if they add minor leaguers and add slots or just add slots, they would have to add to the draft.

    Though I want more slots, I envision us staying at 90 players per roster, maybe 91 to account for the 26 man MLB rosters, I don't see them touching scouting or the draft.
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    • #3
      tessl
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      Re: Franchise changes


      Re: Franchise changes

      Originally posted by Funkycorm
      I don't envision them touching scouting this year. If they make the full minors be real minor leaguers but keep the roster capacity at 90, they would not need to add to the draft.

      Now if they add minor leaguers and add slots or just add slots, they would have to add to the draft.

      Though I want more slots, I envision us staying at 90 players per roster, maybe 91 to account for the 26 man MLB rosters, I don't see them touching scouting or the draft.
      Franchise by definition continues for years in advance. How do they stock full minors of around 7,000 players with the current 7 rounds supplying 200 new players a year? In 10 years that's less than a third of full minors. You will have 60 year old men playing in 30 years.

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      • #4
        Funkycorm
        Cleveland Baseball Guru
        • Nov 2016
        • 3162

        Re: Franchise changes


        Re: Franchise changes

        Originally posted by tessl
        Franchise by definition continues for years in advance. How do they stock full minors of around 7,000 players with the current 7 rounds supplying 200 new players a year? In 10 years that's less than a third of full minors. You will have 60 year old men playing in 30 years.
        So I think we are talking about slightly different things. If they define full minors as just giving us the same 90 man total roster slots, the current system does supply. I have simmed and tested progression/regression by simming to 2050. With about 200 players retiring and 200 entering yearly, the balance is maintained and the talent ratio is pretty reflective of the current ratio.

        Now if you define full minors and AAA, AA, A, rookie, etc then yes you will need to expand the draft.

        I think the first one where we still have only 90 total players on each team will be the one that happens so they won't see the need to touch the draft or scouting, as much as it needs imrpoved.
        Last edited by Funkycorm; 02-07-2020, 12:23 PM.
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        • #5
          Scooter3
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          • Nov 2005
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          Re: Franchise changes


          Re: Franchise changes

          Originally posted by tessl
          From what I've deciphered so far.

          Full minor rosters.
          In order to get it right I'm guessing they have also reworked scouting and the June draft in order to supply the 30 rounds of prospects necessary to sustain a franchise in future years.

          Relocation/re-branding. Speaks for itself and by the way today 2/7 is the final day to export your logos to the vault so you can use them in mlbts20.

          I think I saw in a promo for upcoming streams realignment.

          Obviously new fielding and hitting dynamics will impact franchise.
          Would love this Braves left shoulder logo saved in vault before deadline.
          Haven't a clue of how to do this.
          Please help20200207_135533.jpeg

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          • #6
            tessl
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            • Apr 2007
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            Re: Franchise changes


            Re: Franchise changes

            Originally posted by Funkycorm
            So I think we are talking about slightly different things. If they define full minors as just giving us the same 90 man total roster slots, the current system does supply. I have simmed and tested progression/regression by simming to 2050. With about 200 players retiring and 200 entering yearly, the balance is maintained and the talent ratio is pretty reflective of the current ratio.

            Now if you define full minors and AAA, AA, A, rookie, etc then yes you will need to expand the draft.

            I think the first one where we still have only 90 total players on each team will be the one that happens so they won't see the need to touch the draft or scouting, as much as it needs imrpoved.
            So you think full minors means the same thing we have now with real minor league names? I'd be fine with that but I don't think that's what it means.

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            • #7
              Funkycorm
              Cleveland Baseball Guru
              • Nov 2016
              • 3162

              Re: Franchise changes


              Re: Franchise changes

              Originally posted by tessl
              So you think full minors means the same thing we have now with real minor league names? I'd be fine with that but I don't think that's what it means.
              I hope it's more. I really do hope we get a lot.

              But I am not holding my breath. For now I assume it is just named 90 man rosters similar to what we get with roster creators. If it is more, that would be great, but I don't foresee it. Adding full minors, such as full A, rookie, etc, would be a big undertaking.

              You would not only have to redo the whole draft process, you would need new financials in place, as well as new uniforms created for those teams, assuming they would even be playable. You would also need a way to translate a 90 man franchise carry over save and now have 150 or so roster spots. This means, you would have to have a program written that makes the game generate random players in the low level minors. Or you take away the ability to carryover save because of the big changes in roster size. Plus potentially more issues I didn't name.

              Like I said I really hope we get more and I decided I am getting one final version of the Show but I have tempered expectations.

              I do think this could be a step in the right direction for the above and that maybe the PS5 starts to unlock more potential in this game.
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              • #8
                tessl
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                • Apr 2007
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                Re: Franchise changes

                Originally posted by Scooter3
                Would love this Braves left shoulder logo saved in vault before deadline.
                Haven't a clue of how to do this.
                Please help[ATTACH]175173[/ATTACH]

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                You have to either create your own logo or find an existing logo in the vault. To create a logo you have to do it in diamond dynasty currently. I'm guessing in mlbts 20 you will be able to do it in franchise. For a logo that complicated unless you are very talented it will take a while and you are unlikely to finish it in one day.

                To find one in the vault go to vault - search logo by name not user name. I searched for braves and found one attempt at the logo you posted but in my opinion it needs improvement to match what you posted. There are dozens of other braves logos mostly with the tomahawk.

                I'd say go to the diamond dynasty logo creator and become familiar with how to use it. Try to create your logo and then when mlbts 20 is released you will be able to create it.

                This is one of several youtube videos describing how to create logos. If you enjoy art you might find it fun.
                Last edited by tessl; 02-08-2020, 12:10 PM.

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                • #9
                  tessl
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                  • Apr 2007
                  • 5773

                  Re: Franchise changes


                  Re: Franchise changes

                  Originally posted by Funkycorm
                  I hope it's more. I really do hope we get a lot.

                  But I am not holding my breath. For now I assume it is just named 90 man rosters similar to what we get with roster creators. If it is more, that would be great, but I don't foresee it. Adding full minors, such as full A, rookie, etc, would be a big undertaking.

                  You would not only have to redo the whole draft process, you would need new financials in place, as well as new uniforms created for those teams, assuming they would even be playable. You would also need a way to translate a 90 man franchise carry over save and now have 150 or so roster spots. This means, you would have to have a program written that makes the game generate random players in the low level minors. Or you take away the ability to carryover save because of the big changes in roster size. Plus potentially more issues I didn't name.

                  Like I said I really hope we get more and I decided I am getting one final version of the Show but I have tempered expectations.

                  I do think this could be a step in the right direction for the above and that maybe the PS5 starts to unlock more potential in this game.
                  My guess is that's exactly what we are going to get - 7,000 minor league players. My only concern is I've seen them accede to requests from the community without fully working thru the process. Reworking scouting and the draft would be a lot of programming. It would be easier to do what you suggest maybe with real names and leave everything else the same.

                  I guess we find out next week.

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                  • #10
                    Grey_Osprey
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                    • Feb 2013
                    • 755

                    Re: Franchise changes


                    Re: Franchise changes

                    Originally posted by tessl
                    From what I've deciphered so far.

                    Full minor rosters.
                    In order to get it right I'm guessing they have also reworked scouting and the June draft in order to supply the 30 rounds of prospects necessary to sustain a franchise in future years.

                    Relocation/re-branding. Speaks for itself and by the way today 2/7 is the final day to export your logos to the vault so you can use them in mlbts20.

                    I think I saw in a promo for upcoming streams realignment.

                    Obviously new fielding and hitting dynamics will impact franchise.

                    Don't mean to doubt you, but are you/we sure that realignment is a real thing? Only reason I ask is if you go back to the original bullet point for 2/13 stream, it says:

                    "...franchise let's you change team names, location and logo's..."

                    I don't want to read too much into it, but I'd like to believe realignment is part of it, but it doesn't actually say that either. Then again, you can only put so much info in a small bullet point, right?

                    Just wish there was some clarity on if this is true (realignment). Would be an instant purchase or me.

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                    • #11
                      Juzbee
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                      • Feb 2016
                      • 233

                      Re: Franchise changes


                      Re: Franchise changes

                      Originally posted by Grey_Osprey
                      Don't mean to doubt you, but are you/we sure that realignment is a real thing? Only reason I ask is if you go back to the original bullet point for 2/13 stream, it says:

                      "...franchise let's you change team names, location and logo's..."

                      I don't want to read too much into it, but I'd like to believe realignment is part of it, but it doesn't actually say that either. Then again, you can only put so much info in a small bullet point, right?

                      Just wish there was some clarity on if this is true (realignment). Would be an instant purchase or me.

                      I hope some form of realignment is possible. The first thing I'd do is move the Astros and the Brewers back to their proper leagues. Damn Bud Selig.

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                      • #12
                        BigOscar
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                        • May 2016
                        • 2971

                        Re: Franchise changes


                        Re: Franchise changes

                        League realignment seems incredibly unlikely considering they can't even get rotating interleague schedules. Reworking the schedules for realignment would be infinitely more difficult to do

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                        • #13
                          jcar0725
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                          • Aug 2010
                          • 3930

                          Re: Franchise changes


                          Re: Franchise changes

                          Originally posted by BigOscar
                          League realignment seems incredibly unlikely considering they can't even get rotating interleague schedules. Reworking the schedules for realignment would be infinitely more difficult to do
                          Exactly what I was going to say.
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                          • #14
                            CgyFlames
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                            • May 2007
                            • 626

                            Re: Franchise changes


                            Re: Franchise changes

                            Originally posted by Juzbee
                            I hope some form of realignment is possible. The first thing I'd do is move the Astros and the Brewers back to their proper leagues. Damn Bud Selig.
                            Originally posted by BigOscar
                            League realignment seems incredibly unlikely considering they can't even get rotating interleague schedules. Reworking the schedules for realignment would be infinitely more difficult to do
                            I’m going to temper expectations a bit. There MAY be realignment, but IF so it’s extremely likely that it’ll simply be swapping teams between divisions. Similar to what the NHL games allow you to do. You’ll have to keep 6 divisions of 5 teams each. That requires no extra schedules to be generated.

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                            • #15
                              Caulfield
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                              • Apr 2011
                              • 10985

                              Re: Franchise changes


                              Re: Franchise changes

                              what I'm wondering is if the only team you can relocate is the team you are playing your franchise as. meaning I doubt we could do a season replay of 1998 with the Nationals in Montreal, while playing that year as say, Atlanta.
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