Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

[MrSerendipity]

Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

1. Yes it is possible.

2. Rangers wouldn't want either of those guys in a return deal.

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I'm a bias Rangers fan who genuinely can't see Texas dealing Gallo. With that said, if they did, it would have to be for a haul. He's the face of our team currently and he's dearly, dearly loved by our fans. I personally don't like the White Sox as a trade partner. If I were constructing a trade, as a bias Ranger fan, this is likely what it would look like:

CWS Receives:
Joey Gallo
Danny Santana

TEX Receives:
Andrew Vaughn
Nick Madrigal
Daniel Palka

I'm likely being told this is an overpay but any team swinging a deal for Gallo is going to overpay. He's the biggest star Texas has had since Hamilton. That is a lot for a team with a new stadium that needs filled seats. In this deal, Chicago gets Gallo to play RF, completing one of the scariest OF in baseball and Santana who can serve as a 4th Outfielder and a super-utility guy for the team. Texas fills the void at first with Vaughn who would likely debut for Texas the following year. They also get a surefire replacement for Odor in Madrigal who would very well debut before season's end. Palka serves as an additional Major League piece that can fill the gap in the OF that Gallo's absence would leave.

[Bard]

Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

I'm a bias Rangers fan who genuinely can't see Texas dealing Gallo. With that said, if they did, it would have to be for a haul. He's the face of our team currently and he's dearly, dearly loved by our fans. I personally don't like the White Sox as a trade partner. If I were constructing a trade, as a bias Ranger fan, this is likely what it would look like:



CWS Receives:

Joey Gallo

Danny Santana



TEX Receives:

Andrew Vaughn

Nick Madrigal

Daniel Palka



I'm likely being told this is an overpay but any team swinging a deal for Gallo is going to overpay. He's the biggest star Texas has had since Hamilton. That is a lot for a team with a new stadium that needs filled seats. In this deal, Chicago gets Gallo to play RF, completing one of the scariest OF in baseball and Santana who can serve as a 4th Outfielder and a super-utility guy for the team. Texas fills the void at first with Vaughn who would likely debut for Texas the following year. They also get a surefire replacement for Odor in Madrigal who would very well debut before season's end. Palka serves as an additional Major League piece that can fill the gap in the OF that Gallo's absence would leave.

Just going to start with this is a heavy bias you have, lol.

Madrigal in my mind is already better than Gallo and he hasn't even debuted yet.

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[Scott]

Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

Since there’s already been a Arenado trade to the Rangers. How about what it would take to get Kris Bryant to Texas?


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[MrSerendipity]

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Just going to start with this is a heavy bias you have, lol.

Madrigal in my mind is already better than Gallo and he hasn't even debuted yet.

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I think that's a lot to say for a guy who hasn't proved it at the highest level. Now, I'm not using our formula to devise values, I'm using baseballtradevalues as it's just quicker and I like how intuitive it is. BTV has Gallo at 67.2M and Madrigal at 32.4M. The total value for that trade on BTV is slanted towards Texas who receives approximately 6.6M more in the deal.

[MrSerendipity]

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Since there’s already been a Arenado trade to the Rangers. How about what it would take to get Kris Bryant to Texas?


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My recommendation:

Jung
Solak
H. Hernandez

Bard may have a different deal.

[Bard]

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I think that's a lot to say for a guy who hasn't proved it at the highest level. Now, I'm not using our formula to devise values, I'm using baseballtradevalues as it's just quicker and I like how intuitive it is. BTV has Gallo at 67.2M and Madrigal at 32.4M. The total value for that trade on BTV is slanted towards Texas who receives approximately 6.6M more in the deal.

I have Nick at $51 million in surplus. Gallo I want to say is $72.

Deal is probably fair, but if I was the White Sox I wouldnt do that in 2020.

I'll get to the Bryant one soon!

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[MrSerendipity]

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I have Nick at $51 million in surplus. Gallo I want to say is $72.

Deal is probably fair, but if I was the White Sox I wouldnt do that in 2020.

I'll get to the Bryant one soon!

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To be fair, if I were the White Sox, I wouldn't do it either. That is why I don't like them as a trade partner for Gallo. They have nothing outside of Vaughn and Madrigal that even tickles Texas' interest. But Vaughn and Madrigal makes more sense for Chicago's future then dealing for Gallo.

[Buccosback]

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Using my method of valuing players

Pirates Receive:

SP Kolby Allard ($96 million)


Rangers Receive:

SS Cole Tucker ($85 million)
RP Dovydas Neverauskas ($40 million)


Thoughts?

[Jeffrey Smith]

Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

What value does Randal Grichuk have? I’m looking for relief help.


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[Bard]

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What value does Randal Grichuk have? I’m looking for relief help.


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Using my method of valuing players

Pirates Receive:

SP Kolby Allard ($96 million)


Rangers Receive:

SS Cole Tucker ($85 million)
RP Dovydas Neverauskas ($40 million)


Thoughts?

Since there’s already been a Arenado trade to the Rangers. How about what it would take to get Kris Bryant to Texas?


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Since there’s already been a Arenado trade to the Rangers. How about what it would take to get Kris Bryant to Texas?


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Bryant is worth $25.8.

Cubs Receive:
Jung
Lotto ticket


Rangers Receive:
Kris Bryant

Jung is worth around $33 million alone, but the Cubs wouldn't take a one for one. They'll take a top 100 prospect and a lotto ticket for Bryant.

Using my method of valuing players

Pirates Receive:

SP Kolby Allard ($96 million)


Rangers Receive:

SS Cole Tucker ($85 million)
RP Dovydas Neverauskas ($40 million)


Thoughts?

Allard has about a fourth of that value. Cole Tucker has never broke the top 100 prospects, and wasn't good in his debut last year...how did you have him that high? Seems strange.

I would just throw that deal out. The math doesn't add up for any of them.

What value does Randal Grichuk have? I’m looking for relief help.


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Randal is worth around $.01 in surplus. So, he really isn't worth much at all, and is almost in the negative. What would help him is a strong season, and them be a trade deadline flip at this point.

He is worth $10 million, times 4 years of control is $40, but then subtract his contract (12, 9.33x3) and you get .01.

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[Scott]

Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

What would be considered a lotto ticket?


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[Buccosback]

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according to baseball trade simulator trade values Tucker has more value than Allard. It's hard to evaluate players with little big league time. Both were first round picks. Pirates need pitchers and Rangers need infielders. I'd be willing to maybe add in another piece to the trade.

[boxers]

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Wouldn't that be a bit high for Allard? He got dealt for 30+year old reliever last year, surely he can't hold that much value any more.

Using my method of valuing players

Pirates Receive:

SP Kolby Allard ($96 million)


Rangers Receive:

SS Cole Tucker ($85 million)
RP Dovydas Neverauskas ($40 million)


Thoughts?

[Buccosback]

Re: Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread

I use a different valuation of players. For example Bryan Reynolds has $167million in value. I've used a mix of Player role, WAR, contract value, team control value, and age

Wouldn't that be a bit high for Allard? He got dealt for 30+year old reliever last year, surely he can't hold that much value any more.

[Michael412]

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I know this doesn't make a whole lot of sense for a rebuilding Pirates but I was thinking about trying to bring McCutchen back.