HDR On or OFF ?

[PVarck31]

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Here's the thing about HDR. Some TV's may say they are 4K HDR but do not actually have the capabilities to produce good or true HDR.

Find out the model of your TV and go to rtings.com. It will show you how your TV performs in HDR mode.

In order to get the best out of HDR, your TV needs to have a wide color gamut, 10-bit panel, and high peak brightness. Somewhere around 1,000 nits of peak brightness, give or take a little.

If this is not the case, then HDR will most likely look washed out.

As for settings, most TV's when using HDR will automatically default to the proper settings. A lot of them should be grey'd out. It should be on max brightness, max contrast, and you should always be playing in game mode with all post processing settings turned off.

If you have a TV with local dimming, that should be set to high. There might be a setting called something like X-tended dynamic range. Those settings should be on high. Other than than, other post-processing settings should be set to off.

Unfortunately The Show, Madden, NBA 2K don't have HDR sliders to adjust to our TV's settings. They are pretty much set to an average of a good HDR TV.

[DavidPuddy]

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im leaving mine On for now...seems most realistic.

[DJ]

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HDR On and Balanced is what I'm going with.

[King Gro23]

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Question here; I have a regular ps4 I have been using some HDMi cords from a family member. Not sure if they are 2.1's but im wondering if it would be necessary to get one having a regular ps4?

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[El_MaYiMbE]

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I would say to turn HDR on with the caveat, that you're going to (most likely) need to recalibrate your TV for HDR. I too had an issue where I felt like the colors were washed out with HDR On, when compared to with HDR Off.

I definitely liked the colors without HDR, but I did not like the contrast and bright colors in the distance (jumbotron, day time sky, etc...), so HDR is better for these things.

What I did was split difference...I turned HDR On, and then adjusted the colors settings of my TV to look like the colors did when HDR was off. Now I have the best of both worlds...The correct light/contrast (HDR) and the correct color (adjusted for my TV)

Luckily, my TV has a "Vivid" option which makes the colors pop more. They are too vibrant when HDR is OFF, but considering HDR muted the colors, when turning Vivid mode on with HDR it actually strikes the correct color balance.

In short...if HDR mutes your colors, adjust your colors AFTER HDR is on to bring them up to your non-HDR standards.

[PVarck31]

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I would say to turn HDR on with the caveat, that you're going to (most likely) need to recalibrate your TV for HDR. I too had an issue where I felt like the colors were washed out with HDR On, when compared to with HDR Off.

I definitely liked the colors without HDR, but I did not like the contrast and bright colors in the distance (jumbotron, day time sky, etc...), so HDR is better for these things.

What I did was split difference...I turned HDR On, and then adjusted the colors settings of my TV to look like the colors did when HDR was off. Now I have the best of both worlds...The correct light/contrast (HDR) and the correct color (adjusted for my TV)

Luckily, my TV has a "Vivid" option which makes the colors pop more. They are too vibrant when HDR is OFF, but considering HDR muted the colors, when turning Vivid mode on with HDR it actually strikes the correct color balance.

In short...if HDR mutes your colors, adjust your colors AFTER HDR is on to bring them up to your non-HDR standards.

Are you not playing in game mode?

If it works for you then great. But it substantially increases input lag.

Also, what kind of TV do you have?

[El_MaYiMbE]

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Are you not playing in game mode?

If it works for you then great. But it substantially increases input lag.

Also, what kind of TV do you have?

So I still have the option to turn on "Game Low Latency" On or Off (when on it reduces lag). So I get all the benefits of the Vivid mode colors, and under "More Picture" options I can manage additional settings such as:

Color Temperature
Black Detail
Clear Action (Motion Blur Reduction)
Reduce Noise
Gamma
Game Latency

This is all in addition to being able to invididually control:

Backlight
Brightness
Contrast
Color
Tint
Sharpness

I have a 4K Vizio E43 that I have setup in my home office.

[PVarck31]

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So I still have the option to turn on "Game Low Latency" On or Off (when on it reduces lag). So I get all the benefits of the Vivid mode colors, and under "More Picture" options I can manage additional settings such as:

Color Temperature
Black Detail
Clear Action (Motion Blur Reduction)
Reduce Noise
Gamma
Game Latency

This is all in addition to being able to invididually control:

Backlight
Brightness
Contrast
Color
Tint
Sharpness

I have a 4K Vizio E43 that I have setup in my home office.

Ok, it's good you can independently control low latency and picture mode.

As you said, you kinda have to make adjustments to get a makeshift HDR. Your TV doesn't have a wide color gamut and doesn't get bright enough for true HDR. That's why it looks washed out. For this TV I would honestly keep HDR off. You will get more realistic color production.

But, if vivid looks good to you, then that's all that matters. But I would try a couple other picture modes as well to see what looks best and adjust from there. Vivid just over-saturates and crushes colors, so you might find something that looks better. Also, move sharpness to 0 if you already haven't. It's another post-processing tool that you don't need. The picture will look better with it at 0.

Just a suggestion if you're interested, but here are rtings settings for this TV. They are pretty much the authority on TV's and settings. https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vi...-2018/settings

I hope this doesn't come off as me being a jerk or anything. I just wanted to make a few suggestions to possibly make it look better.

[El_MaYiMbE]

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Ok, it's good you can independently control low latency and picture mode.

As you said, you kinda have to make adjustments to get a makeshift HDR. Your TV doesn't have a wide color gamut and doesn't get bright enough for true HDR. That's why it looks washed out. For this TV I would honestly keep HDR off. You will get more realistic color production.

But, if vivid looks good to you, then that's all that matters. But I would try a couple other picture modes as well to see what looks best and adjust from there. Vivid just over-saturates and crushes colors, so you might find something that looks better. Also, move sharpness to 0 if you already haven't. It's another post-processing tool that you don't need. The picture will look better with it at 0.

Just a suggestion if you're interested, but here are rtings settings for this TV. They are pretty much the authority on TV's and settings. https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vi...-2018/settings

I hope this doesn't come off as me being a jerk or anything. I just wanted to make a few suggestions to possibly make it look better.

Appreciate it, I will take a look at the link you provided. By no means am I a "videophile" so I definitely appreciate the extra feedback and context.

What I posted is strictly my opinion and what I was able to see from switching between HDR ON/OFF and with/without Vivid Mode. Turning on Vivid mode with a "washed out" HDR On made it look close to default Game Mode with HDR Off. To the naked eye, it seemed to strike the correct balance, but I am sure it could be better.

[hyacinth1]

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wanted to say this - hope you guys fix your HDR issues because -

MLB THE SHOW is THE BEST looking game in this current gen. Hands down. Just beautiful to see.

[audbal]

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I would say on. I've always leaned towards off, but hdr on, makes it look less cartoony to me.

[UNIT180]

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HDR OFF and Balanced...2015 Samsung 4k... Also hardly any visible lag after patch 1.03

[King Gro23]

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I second this recommendation to the site you can pretty much see every imaginable setting you need to tinker with to get your best desired result. Also Darkos youtube channel is helpful. Research ain't bad.

Ok, it's good you can independently control low latency and picture mode.

As you said, you kinda have to make adjustments to get a makeshift HDR. Your TV doesn't have a wide color gamut and doesn't get bright enough for true HDR. That's why it looks washed out. For this TV I would honestly keep HDR off. You will get more realistic color production.

But, if vivid looks good to you, then that's all that matters. But I would try a couple other picture modes as well to see what looks best and adjust from there. Vivid just over-saturates and crushes colors, so you might find something that looks better. Also, move sharpness to 0 if you already haven't. It's another post-processing tool that you don't need. The picture will look better with it at 0.

Just a suggestion if you're interested, but here are rtings settings for this TV. They are pretty much the authority on TV's and settings. https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vi...-2018/settings

I hope this doesn't come off as me being a jerk or anything. I just wanted to make a few suggestions to possibly make it look better.

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[ggazoo]

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HDR On and Balanced is what I'm going with.

I’ve seen a few posts like this. Where is the “Balanced” setting? Is that within the game, or is it a PS4 Pro option only?

[DJ]

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I’ve seen a few posts like this. Where is the “Balanced” setting? Is that within the game, or is it a PS4 Pro option only?

It's in the game settings; after you select HDR, you'll be able to choose between one of three options. I'm not 100% if it's exclusive to the Pro, but it could be.