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  • ggazoo
    Pro
    • Apr 2005
    • 533

    #46
    Re: HDR On or OFF ?

    Originally posted by DJ
    HDR On and Balanced is what I'm going with.
    Originally posted by DJ
    It's in the game settings; after you select HDR, you'll be able to choose between one of three options. I'm not 100% if it's exclusive to the Pro, but it could be.
    I don’t have that option, so it must be PS4 Pro only. Cheers.

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    • ggazoo
      Pro
      • Apr 2005
      • 533

      #47
      Re: HDR On or OFF ?

      Originally posted by PVarck31
      Here's the thing about HDR. Some TV's may say they are 4K HDR but do not actually have the capabilities to produce good or true HDR.

      Find out the model of your TV and go to rtings.com. It will show you how your TV performs in HDR mode.

      In order to get the best out of HDR, your TV needs to have a wide color gamut, 10-bit panel, and high peak brightness. Somewhere around 1,000 nits of peak brightness, give or take a little.

      If this is not the case, then HDR will most likely look washed out.

      As for settings, most TV's when using HDR will automatically default to the proper settings. A lot of them should be grey'd out. It should be on max brightness, max contrast, and you should always be playing in game mode with all post processing settings turned off.

      If you have a TV with local dimming, that should be set to high. There might be a setting called something like X-tended dynamic range. Those settings should be on high. Other than than, other post-processing settings should be set to off.

      Unfortunately The Show, Madden, NBA 2K don't have HDR sliders to adjust to our TV's settings. They are pretty much set to an average of a good HDR TV.
      I think you're bang on with everything, but I do think that it depends on the game.

      For example, I always have Dynamic Contrast set to off (on my TV it's called "Contrast Enhancer"). I had it on for the Last of Us Part 2, and it looked terrible. But on The Show, it helps a lot.

      Having to switch settings between games is kind of a pain, but what are you going to do.

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      • itsmb8
        MVP
        • May 2011
        • 3361

        #48
        Re: HDR On or OFF ?

        Playing on an LG CX.

        I play with HDR on with the sharper visual setting.
        PSN / Xbox GT - BLUEnYELLOW28

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        • DavidPuddy
          Rookie
          • Mar 2003
          • 416

          #49
          Re: HDR On or OFF ?

          HDR ON for me for sure. Originally I thought HDR off may be better but i was wrong...

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          • icicle22
            MVP
            • Jul 2002
            • 2395

            #50
            Re: HDR On or OFF ?

            Originally posted by DJ
            It's in the game settings; after you select HDR, you'll be able to choose between one of three options. I'm not 100% if it's exclusive to the Pro, but it could be.
            It has nothing to do with HDR and everything to do with 4k resolution. It is only on the PS4 Pro and it allows the user to essentially set there preference.

            Fastest (best frame rate and smooth animations but lowest quality imagery)1080p
            balanced (compromise of higher resolution and decent framerates) 1440p
            sharper (true 4k at the cost of a lower framerate)2160P (4k)

            I really don't think HDR plays into any of these settings either.

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            • itsmb8
              MVP
              • May 2011
              • 3361

              #51
              Re: HDR On or OFF ?

              Does anyone know specifically what the frame rate numbers are on a Pro? On my new 4K TV w/ 120hz, on sharper you can tell its low so id only use it if im watching CPU vs CPU games, but on balanced or especially sharper you can tell how smooth it really is.

              I was playing a random game in Camden and had it set to sharper, and you could tell it wasnt really refreshing fast enough... But on faster, I could literally see the meter line move back and forth, not bouncing back and forth like you'd normally see. It was a mind-blowing experience, and I was hitting the line A LOT more than normal.
              PSN / Xbox GT - BLUEnYELLOW28

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              • TheWarmWind
                MVP
                • Apr 2015
                • 2620

                #52
                Re: HDR On or OFF ?

                Originally posted by itsmb8
                Does anyone know specifically what the frame rate numbers are on a Pro? On my new 4K TV w/ 120hz, on sharper you can tell its low so id only use it if im watching CPU vs CPU games, but on balanced or especially sharper you can tell how smooth it really is.

                I was playing a random game in Camden and had it set to sharper, and you could tell it wasnt really refreshing fast enough... But on faster, I could literally see the meter line move back and forth, not bouncing back and forth like you'd normally see. It was a mind-blowing experience, and I was hitting the line A LOT more than normal.
                No way to tell for sure, but the PS4 does have a hard cap of 60 FPS. It still hasn't been confirmed yet, but rumor has it the PS5 will go above 60.

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                • itsmb8
                  MVP
                  • May 2011
                  • 3361

                  #53
                  Re: HDR On or OFF ?

                  Originally posted by TheWarmWind
                  No way to tell for sure, but the PS4 does have a hard cap of 60 FPS. It still hasn't been confirmed yet, but rumor has it the PS5 will go above 60.
                  If what im seeing is just 60 fps instead of 30, I can't wait to see what 120 looks like...
                  PSN / Xbox GT - BLUEnYELLOW28

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                  • TheWarmWind
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 2620

                    #54
                    Re: HDR On or OFF ?

                    Originally posted by itsmb8
                    If what im seeing is just 60 fps instead of 30, I can't wait to see what 120 looks like...
                    Higher framerates are always better, but there are severely diminishing returns after a certain point. I find 75 to 80 FPS to be the real "wow" point for most games. I can easily notice up to 100 - 120ish in most games, but it doesn't have the same dramatic jump in quality as the jump to 75 - 80 does. I do have a 240hrz monitor, but I really only notice the difference between those super high framerates and lower ones in fast paced first person shooters (Overwatch, Titanfall, etc). Games where it's important for you to get the information to your brain as quickly as possible. For a 3rd person game (say the Witcher 3) if you asked me to notice the difference between a 165 hrz monitor and a 240 hrz monitor (assuming all other factors are the same) with a gun to my head, I might be able to do it, but I'd be sweating really hard.

                    Don't get me wrong, I want to see all games running at 240 hrz, I'm just pointing out that each new noticeable difference takes progressively more and more frames.

                    As far as the Show is concerned, most of the game will feel fantastic at my 75 - 80 threshold. The only aspect of the game I suspect that "needs" higher framerates is the look of the pitch as it comes in. I can imagine the 100 - 120 threshold being important for that, maybe even 170. But I highly doubt 240 would add much to the playing experience that the lower thresholds couldn't provide.

                    I know your display is 120 hrz and most of this information doesn't apply to you, I'm just trying to inform both your future purchases and the settings you might want to prioritize when PS5 comes out.

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                    • jrnlgrn
                      Pro
                      • Oct 2018
                      • 3076

                      #55
                      Re: HDR On or OFF ?

                      I've always used HDR, I have a 4k TV and other games look great at full res with HDR on but The Show is a bit meh. I just recently switched the resolution to faster/HDR on and it's best the show has ever looked. On my TV at least HDR and faster resolution looks looks way more realistic. Some of the close ups on batter walk-ups have me staring in amazement as it just looks so life like. If it weren't for the commentary I probably could get someone who's not paying real close attention to think it's a real game.
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                      • hyacinth1
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 1537

                        #56
                        Re: HDR On or OFF ?

                        Have it on for MLB the show 20 and it looks great.

                        2K games it looks incredible. they do the best job it seems w/ HDR.

                        But for EA games it looks pretty terrible. so turn it off for anything made by EA.

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                        • NYJin2011tm
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 2762

                          #57
                          Re: HDR On or OFF ?

                          I just bought TCL Qled 4K 50” tv and with it on it looks amazing! The colors really stand out.

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                          • Artman22
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 4985

                            #58
                            Re: HDR On or OFF ?

                            On my OLED HDR looks great. I play on balanced. I don't understand how anyone can play this game on sharper. It seems like it's less than 30fps on sharper..
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                            • TheDarkKnightRises
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 1060

                              #59
                              Re: HDR On or OFF ?

                              Originally posted by Artman22
                              On my OLED HDR looks great. I play on balanced. I don't understand how anyone can play this game on sharper. It seems like it's less than 30fps on sharper..
                              So this balanced, sharper, faster option is only for PS4 pro?
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                              • Jatt96
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2016
                                • 260

                                #60
                                Re: HDR On or OFF ?

                                HDR On but entirely depends on the TV.

                                I've had a Sharp that made HDR look like ****, now I have a Vizio that displays HDR amazingly.

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