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  • underdog13
    MVP
    • Apr 2012
    • 3222

    #91
    Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

    Originally posted by nemesis04
    There are no points in baseball!

    I have a friend who tends to call relievers, "backups"


    Annoys me to no end
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    • underdog13
      MVP
      • Apr 2012
      • 3222

      #92
      Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

      Originally posted by Drop_ya_mitts
      I'm having a hard time believing what you say on this. No offense.

      How could you have been there in "plenty of time, waiting for the ball" (your words) and yet not be facing the correct way to field the ball you're supposedly waiting for? Doesn't make any rational or baseball sense.

      Can you elaborate? I'm really trying to get to the bottom of why a select few of you are having issues.
      Well earlier on there is a video posted here where something very similar happens and the guy lets the ball drop to play it off the warning track.

      There have been many videos posted, and many different The Show players having issues with outfield fielding. Hardly a "select few"
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      • LastActionHero
        MVP
        • Feb 2009
        • 2453

        #93
        Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

        Originally posted by nemesis04
        There are no points in baseball!


        I’m from Europe so give me break, all we hear is soccer scores [emoji12]
        "When it's all set and done, reality is the best innovation."

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        • citybythebay85
          Rookie
          • Feb 2016
          • 160

          #94
          Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

          I had Duke Snyder get hit in the neck by a routine fly ball last night online. So there’s that...

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          • WAVI3
            Rookie
            • Nov 2013
            • 34

            #95
            Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

            Alright, I never wanted to post on OS but I'm just going to now because I've been following this thread and it gets really aggravating to be on the s**t end of the stick when it comes to these things and have people deny that it's happening and fight people on the subject as if they're just full of it. This isn't a "skill" based issue, period. I think this is the best iteration of The Show ever, because they somehow make the game better every year, but we don't get anywhere with people denying there's serious issues going on.

            This is the most egregious example that I've had the misfortune of dealing with when it comes to the fielding bug this year:

            <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/oXBXTtnXkww" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

            The animation at the end is literally the animation kicking in of Jeff McNeil walking to pick it up because the animation to catch a pop fly never kicked in, it is quite literally an animation of Jeff McNeil walking to field the ball as if it was a gapper because the animation that should have originally kicked in never did, so the game treated it as if it was never a pop fly, it wasn't some "user error", I was literally on the white circle, dead center, and no animation ever kicked in until the ball was about to touch the grass. I didn't mis-click anything, I didn't push the analog stick to walk towards the wall, whenever it's a pop fly, I get under the white circle and let go of the analog stick when I 100% know I'm in a position to field it cleanly, end of. So that's the argument of "stop pushing the stick" dead and buried, I was camped on the damn white circle, I stopped pushing the stick when I was in a position to catch a pop fly.

            And I know the "there is no bug" brigade will hyper-analyze every minute detail, so I want to be clear, after the slight pivot before I start walking in a slow, straight line again to field it, no animation to field ever kicks in, the animation of him running to pick the ball up is because the animation to catch the pop fly never kicked in in the first place. And the reason Jeff McNeil never stops dead in his tracks to field it, is because, again, the animation to field a pop fly never kicked in. I walked slowly because the animation was supposed to kick in and never did, but I let go of the stick when I was on the white circle and the game never recognized that. Not sure how much more clear I can be.
            Last edited by WAVI3; 04-09-2020, 05:46 PM.

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            • dms14
              Rookie
              • Feb 2019
              • 54

              #96
              Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

              Originally posted by WAVI3
              Alright, I never wanted to post on OS but I'm just going to now because I've been following this thread and it gets really aggravating to be on the s**t end of the stick when it comes to these things and have people deny that it's happening and fight people on the subject as if they're just full of it. This isn't a "skill" based issue, period. I think this is the best iteration of The Show ever, because they somehow make the game better every year, but we don't get anywhere with people denying there's serious issues going on.

              This is the most egregious example that I've had the misfortune of dealing with when it comes to the fielding bug this year:

              <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/oXBXTtnXkww" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

              The animation at the end is literally the animation kicking in of Jeff McNeil walking to pick it up because the animation to catch a pop fly never kicked in, it is quite literally an animation of Jeff McNeil walking to field the ball as if it was a gapper because the animation that should have originally kicked in never did, so the game treated it as if it was never a pop fly, it wasn't some "user error", I was literally on the white circle, dead center, and no animation ever kicked in until the ball was about to touch the grass. I didn't mis-click anything, I didn't push the analog stick to walk towards the wall, whenever it's a pop fly, I get under the white circle and let go of the analog stick when I 100% know I'm in a position to field it cleanly, end of. So that's the argument of "stop pushing the stick" dead and buried, I was camped on the damn white circle, I stopped pushing the stick when I was in a position to catch a pop fly.

              And I know the "there is no bug" brigade will hyper-analyze every minute detail, so I want to be clear, after the slight pivot before I start walking in a slow, straight line again to field it, no animation to field ever kicks in, the animation of him running to pick the ball up is because the animation to catch the pop fly never kicked in in the first place. And the reason Jeff McNeil never stops dead in his tracks to field it, is because, again, the animation to field a pop fly never kicked in. I walked slowly because the animation was supposed to kick in and never did, but I let go of the stick when I was on the white circle and the game never recognized that. Not sure how much more clear I can be.
              Yeah, it's frustrating to say the least.

              The majority of the posts in this thread are either video examples of this problem or other people experiencing the same issue, yet it's turning into an argument with the same handful of people that keep denying that there is any problem.

              The video you posted is the exact reason why I made a bug report days ago. I'm losing games because of it.

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              • countryboy
                Growing pains
                • Sep 2003
                • 52728

                #97
                Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

                For those that have seen this repeatedly, is it the same outfielder (LF, CF, RF) each time or does it vary? Does it happen to infielders as well?

                Before being accused of being part of the "no bug brigade", I'm curious if there is any correlation to when this happens, as if its the same fielding position, same type of situation (RF runs to gap), or anything of the sort? Each time its scored a hit instead of error correct?

                I'm not asking to discredit because obviously something is happening and I'm curious if there are similarities in times that it happens, so that maybe that information can be passed to the devs to look into.

                I had no locking animations happen before the patch that "fixed" them, but haven't had them since. I've had the error animation play, but not something like what was referenced above and various times thru the thread.

                Just seeing what information can be passed on to the devs to help speed along a resolution.

                Also, if those who see it can capture a video and post to their feedback site, that would be extremely helpful.

                Here's the link: https://theshow.sonysandiegostudio.g...d=360003007534
                Last edited by countryboy; 04-09-2020, 06:14 PM. Reason: added link to feedback page at Show Nation website
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                • stealyerface
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 1803

                  #98
                  Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

                  Are you using manual fielding? Like where you, the user playing the game, runs the fielder to the spot to get him into the catch, or is this automatic fielding where the game does it for you?
                  ~syf


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                  • Kenzojoe
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 264

                    #99
                    Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

                    i feel ya. Its wierd, i kinda know when its going to happen in a inning where I have the lead and one of two things happen to me or both. The first one is a shot up the middle. I have Jimmy Rollins at SS, and a routine ground ball up the middle, and he cant reach it. Its that "stuck in mud" kind of feeling. When that happens, the next batter or two will hit a solid liner thats pretty playable for my outfielders Pham, a diamond Robles and Diamond Harper. Same thing happens.
                    The other tell, is my pitcher, out of the ball, will have a weak hitter constantly foul off on the 2nd strike. I pitch on pulse, so no matter the location, when a weak hitter starts fouling off pitches, same as above, a batter or two later...

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                    • WAVI3
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 34

                      #100
                      Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

                      Here's another for the hell of it. I would like for anyone to attempt to explain to a person who's fielded 1000's of pop fly's over the course of playing The Show for years, from PS2 to PS3, and now on PS4, why all of a sudden, this specific year, where it's a widely reported issue, that it's my fault that this is happening. I guess I'm not good enough to stand where the game tells me to to trigger what's been triggering in this series since the 2000's.

                      Explain why the animation clearly begins to trigger for me to cleanly field this pop up and why all of a sudden Rod Carew throws on his roller skates in the middle of his fielding duties. It's right here for you, on video, I'm not making up stories for imaginary internet points. I guess it's my fault though, I didn't tell him we weren't going to a skating rink on the night. I stopped pushing the analog stick right as the animation of him slowly jogging backwards triggered because the human side of this sequence was done. I went exactly where the game told me to go to stand and field it, and I did just that. The clip clearly shows that an animation triggered and that only happens when you stand on the white circle and the game recognizes that you've done your duties. Period.

                      <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/i2CaZk0GNlQ" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                      "Human error" my behind lol.

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                      • tabarnes19_SDS
                        Game Designer
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 3084

                        #101
                        Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

                        Looks like patch is fixing it.



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                        • WAVI3
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 34

                          #102
                          Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

                          Originally posted by tabarnes19
                          Looks like patch is fixing it.



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                          But I thought this was "user error"!

                          Regardless of those arguing against what was obviously a game issue, I'm glad this is finally getting addressed. Thanks for posting this.

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                          • bcruise
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 23274

                            #103
                            Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

                            Originally posted by tabarnes19
                            Looks like patch is fixing it.



                            Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
                            That would be pretty impressive considering it's one of the long-standing issues I mentioned in my post. Legacy things like that don't often get knocked out mid-cycle. Hope they adjust it to people's satisfaction. I still feel like getting under the ball ASAP (and not manually jogging/feathering the L-stick) is the best way of dealing with it, no matter what they may change. In other words, I don't want to give the game the opportunity to screw me. Fortunately this doesn't sound like it's going to affect what happens when you're already camped out under the ball.

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                            • WAVI3
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 34

                              #104
                              Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

                              Yeah I'm not gonna let this thread die, this nonsense keeps on happening. Have had a few more fun run ins with the fielding bugs since the last patch.

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                              • stealyerface
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 1803

                                #105
                                Re: Fielding flyballs should not be this hard

                                Originally posted by WAVI3
                                Yeah I'm not gonna let this thread die, this nonsense keeps on happening. Have had a few more fun run ins with the fielding bugs since the last patch.


                                Well, they certainly messed with something on your behalf... my fielders are now auto-locking to the catch-circle waaaay farther away than they should.

                                I hope they fixed whatever it was you were hoping for, but they certainly enlarged to circumference for the fielders to back in The Show 18 days...

                                ~syf


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