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  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52739

    #1

    After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

    After playing every pitch of every inning in over 200 games of MLB '20, it has once again delivered one of the best sports gaming experiences that I have played and between the lines may deliver the best sports game that I have played to date.

    MLB '20 certainly isn't without its warts, but my experience has allowed me to avoid a few of those (roster balance issue with new franchises - auto baserunning wonkiness)

    As a carryover save player who plays his games on default Legend with zone hitting and meter pitching, MLB '20 delivers one hell of an experience on the diamond. The hitting feels pure, the pitching feels as though I can pitch off the fastball effectively again, fielding has advanced forward to better differentiate gold glovers for your average fielder. The crowd seems a bit more in tune to what is happening on the field, the stats that popup, especially when using the Show theme, really help immerse franchise players into their virtual universe. MLB '20 simply delivers the most authentic and enjoyable experience on the diamond than any of its predecessors, including last year's game.

    Off the field, speaking purely from the franchise perspective, MLB '20 adds little substance to what I've already experienced years prior. The addition of relocation/rebranding is a nice change of pace, but something that I have very little interest in. The ability to make two way players is again a nice addition but not something that I personally care about. The biggest changes for me are the roster size additions as well as how the CPU is even better this year at building a roster within franchise mode. While I hope that with the advancement to the PS5 that franchise mode gets a lot of the little things added that are, imo, sorely needed (larger rosters, ability to edit managers, more robust draft, more robust injury system, etc..) the current franchise mode offers enough to continue to keep me interested and intrigued to play multiple years in this installment.

    MLB '20 isn't going into the hall of fame. It may not even be a starter in the all-star game. But it does belong in the all-star game simply because of its on field play, which for me, will always triumph everything else, and that is where MLB '20 shines the brightest.

    I look forward to what the SDS team can deliver on the next generation of hardware, but for now, kudos to SDS for once again delivering a great playing game on the diamond, that provide me with entertainment and keep me involved until MLB '21 launches next Spring.
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  • KnightTemplar
    MVP
    • Feb 2017
    • 3282

    #2
    Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

    MLB '20 isn't going into the hall of fame. It may not even be a starter in the all-star game. But it does belong in the all-star game simply because of its on field play, which for me, will always triumph everything else, and that is where MLB '20 shines the brightest.
    Don't think we realize how complex this game must be to make. We want everything "perfect" and I'm not sure that's possible. You're right, warts and all, the game play is amazingly good and fun. Picking up the PS5 for sure and if I'm still around next year will eagerly wait to see how this game transfers over.

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    • aparks87
      Rookie
      • May 2010
      • 310

      #3
      Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

      Originally posted by countryboy
      After playing every pitch of every inning in over 200 games of MLB '20, it has once again delivered one of the best sports gaming experiences that I have played and between the lines may deliver the best sports game that I have played to date.

      MLB '20 certainly isn't without its warts, but my experience has allowed me to avoid a few of those (roster balance issue with new franchises - auto baserunning wonkiness)

      As a carryover save player who plays his games on default Legend with zone hitting and meter pitching, MLB '20 delivers one hell of an experience on the diamond. The hitting feels pure, the pitching feels as though I can pitch off the fastball effectively again, fielding has advanced forward to better differentiate gold glovers for your average fielder. The crowd seems a bit more in tune to what is happening on the field, the stats that popup, especially when using the Show theme, really help immerse franchise players into their virtual universe. MLB '20 simply delivers the most authentic and enjoyable experience on the diamond than any of its predecessors, including last year's game.

      Off the field, speaking purely from the franchise perspective, MLB '20 adds little substance to what I've already experienced years prior. The addition of relocation/rebranding is a nice change of pace, but something that I have very little interest in. The ability to make two way players is again a nice addition but not something that I personally care about. The biggest changes for me are the roster size additions as well as how the CPU is even better this year at building a roster within franchise mode. While I hope that with the advancement to the PS5 that franchise mode gets a lot of the little things added that are, imo, sorely needed (larger rosters, ability to edit managers, more robust draft, more robust injury system, etc..) the current franchise mode offers enough to continue to keep me interested and intrigued to play multiple years in this installment.

      MLB '20 isn't going into the hall of fame. It may not even be a starter in the all-star game. But it does belong in the all-star game simply because of its on field play, which for me, will always triumph everything else, and that is where MLB '20 shines the brightest.

      I look forward to what the SDS team can deliver on the next generation of hardware, but for now, kudos to SDS for once again delivering a great playing game on the diamond, that provide me with entertainment and keep me involved until MLB '21 launches next Spring.
      Always look forward to your annual arse kiss thread

      Im not going to pretend this game is something it isnt. All in all it's enough to get most people their baseball gaming fix during troubled times....and i appreciate you mentioned that the game DOES have its issues. But lets be real here...this is one of the worst iterations we've seen in years. The game has 12 patches already with #13 not too far away. That in itself should tell you something...

      Sports games are hard to get perfect. I get it. They need to appeal to such a wide range of audiences from casual to hardcore. Thats hard to do in a sports simulation game. Where i (and i think most of the community have an issue) is this game has turned in to such a DD cash cow (which i cant say i blame them) that they've neglected other key areas of the game that many enjoy. They've patched the game so many times their code is likely jacked to where they create more issues than they fix.

      There's no doubt in my mind that this year was a throwaway year considering they get to develop on new hardware next year and hopefully kill some of these long standing issues that get overlooked. I've been a loyal fan of this game for years and to me its been slowly fading as are most sports games these days....but i know damn well i'll probably play Day 1 every year.

      I dont think its really "All Star" worthy. Personally, id just go with Good/Okay.
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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52739

        #4
        Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

        Originally posted by aparks87
        Always look forward to your annual arse kiss thread

        Im not going to pretend this game is something it isnt. All in all it's enough to get most people their baseball gaming fix during troubled times....and i appreciate you mentioned that the game DOES have its issues. But lets be real here...this is one of the worst iterations we've seen in years. The game has 12 patches already with #13 not too far away. That in itself should tell you something...

        Sports games are hard to get perfect. I get it. They need to appeal to such a wide range of audiences from casual to hardcore. Thats hard to do in a sports simulation game. Where i (and i think most of the community have an issue) is this game has turned in to such a DD cash cow (which i cant say i blame them) that they've neglected other key areas of the game that many enjoy. They've patched the game so many times their code is likely jacked to where they create more issues than they fix.

        There's no doubt in my mind that this year was a throwaway year considering they get to develop on new hardware next year and hopefully kill some of these long standing issues that get overlooked. I've been a loyal fan of this game for years and to me its been slowly fading as are most sports games these days....but i know damn well i'll probably play Day 1 every year.

        I dont think its really "All Star" worthy. Personally, id just go with Good/Okay.
        If my posting this thread is bothersome to you then you have the option to bypass and not post at all. Not everyone likes everything equally and not everyone shares the same views of the game as I do.

        But if you can't share your differing opinion without the added condescending remarks and tone, then perhaps you shouldn't be sharing your opinion in this thread and start one of your own.

        Just food for thought.
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        • Jeffrey Smith
          MVP
          • Apr 2014
          • 1925

          #5
          Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

          I’ve been very conflicted with this years game. While playing I feel the game is better than it’s ever been. I haven’t seen many of the issues that others have complained about and am completely satisfied when I finish a game and turn off the PS4.

          However I have been less inclined to play several games back to back this year. An hour at a time every other day seems to satisfy my itch this year. I’m feeling that franchise mode has gotten a bit stale. I assume it’s more me than the game though. Maybe I just need to take a year off and come back with a fresh outlook.

          I used to dabble in DD to get a change from my franchise but I find the DD content to be very bland this year as well.

          I’ll keep playing just not as often as previous years.


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          • kinsmen7
            MVP
            • Mar 2016
            • 1661

            #6
            Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

            Originally posted by Jeffrey Smith
            I’ve been very conflicted with this years game. While playing I feel the game is better than it’s ever been. I haven’t seen many of the issues that others have complained about and am completely satisfied when I finish a game and turn off the PS4.

            However I have been less inclined to play several games back to back this year. An hour at a time every other day seems to satisfy my itch this year. I’m feeling that franchise mode has gotten a bit stale. I assume it’s more me than the game though. Maybe I just need to take a year off and come back with a fresh outlook.

            I used to dabble in DD to get a change from my franchise but I find the DD content to be very bland this year as well.

            I’ll keep playing just not as often as previous years.


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            This is pretty much exactly how I feel.

            It's a great game. It's entertaining, there's a lot going on visually that is amazing, and IMO, it actually plays pretty well.

            But yeah, I do feel less inclined to play multiple games in a row. Maybe it's me, maybe it's the stale franchise mode. Who knows.

            Realistically though, I feel like (for me at least), it's kind of a similar feeling to a game series like Assassins Creed. I used to have a lot of fun playing them, but when you release the same "type" of game (Yes, there are some pretty incredible improvements every time) on a year to year basis, unless you have some massive upgrade, it's going to get stale. I still play them, but it's no longer a sprint to the finish.
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            • JoshC1977
              All Star
              • Dec 2010
              • 11564

              #7
              Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

              I have to concur with CB's assessment here. I'm not quite at 200 games (probably closer to 130-150 games - including 100 or so in my current franchise).

              Now, I play quite a bit differently than CB. I'm a clean-screen, directional/classic guy on AS+. But, like CB, I play all my games and it's on-the-field where the game shines. I'm using Bacon's fictional roster and having a blast with that...and I may, one day, actually go back to my Reds carryover.

              Yeah, the mode has its warts; but none of them really detract from my fun/immersion because I'm personally more focused on my roleplaying as a GM vs trying to 'replicate real life'.

              This is the ONLY sports game where ratings actually really matter; where we get an experience that gives the flavor of the real thing. This is the one aspect of the game I truly applaud SDS for...the battle between the pitcher and the batter.
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              • BigOscar
                MVP
                • May 2016
                • 2971

                #8
                Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

                I've played this years game far less than any other years that I can recall, which probably says most of it tbh. I frequently find myself starting the game up, cycling through menu screens for 15 minutes trying to motivate myself to play the game, then just quit.

                It's not that the game is bad, it's just not moved enough to feel fresh and the few things they have changed have taken the game backwards as much as they have forwards unfortunately. The direction the developers are taking gives me little hope that things will improve any time soon.

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                • MetsFan16
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1416

                  #9
                  Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

                  After playing 100 Online games I've since stopped and have gone completely offline and dove into my 30 team franchise playing all 162 and am now past the All-Star break.

                  Online early on the gameplay was so frustrating with the outfield defense and hitting engine. And the nature of online play is so stressful.

                  Since going offline I've genuinely enjoyed the gameplay. It's smooth, defense has been more challenging than in years past which makes it more satisfying. The hitting has been good, I'm still seeing a lot of homeruns but I am going in and out of slumps throughout the season which I like. I need it to be realistically balanced. Pitching has been okay for me. I'm leading the league in ERA but am last in K and Opp AVG, while first in BB. Really weird. But after some slider tweaks I think I'm heading in the right direction.

                  Overall, this game plays great offline and is the best it's been in years ('16 still holds the crown though)
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                  • Caulfield
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 10986

                    #10
                    Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

                    Originally posted by countryboy
                    ...MLB '20 certainly isn't without its warts, but my experience has allowed me to avoid a few of those (roster balance issue with new franchises...)

                    ... I look forward to what the SDS team can deliver on the next generation of hardware...
                    it took me some extra work I didn't want to put in (I really wanted to start a season ASAP) because of the roster imbalance, AND the fake Single A players, which really wasn't as big a deal for me as it could have been because I'm a one season and done guy, but I got my personal ''default roster'' set for 20 where I want it and can now start different teams season up when ready.


                    I'm even hopeful SDS will find they had plenty extra work time on their hands to have a significant PS4 jump for 21 as I'll most likely wait for Show 22 to upgrade to the PS5


                    Originally posted by aparks87
                    always look forward to your annual arse kiss thread


                    I'm not going to pretend this game is something it isn't. All in all it's enough to get most people their baseball gaming fix during troubled times

                    I'm not sure we even read the same original post


                    also, 20 IMO been a good enough game in it's own right that it would more than suffice in the ''old normal'', w/o the troubles.
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                    • Blzer
                      Resident film pundit
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 42517

                      #11
                      Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

                      Really looking forward to see if next-gen is rebuilt from the ground up, and hoping that there will be a PC version as well.

                      This is a good game, but without an MLB season at play right now I'm currently just fiddling around with SMB 3, as it's also the newer release. I'll be coming back to this game soon, and yet I'm still just far too eager for The Show 21 to see what it provides.

                      I'm really hoping we're gone from purple night skies. Better than brown, but still not quite right, heh.
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                      • Caulfield
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 10986

                        #12
                        Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

                        Originally posted by Blzer
                        Really looking forward to see if next-gen is rebuilt from the ground up, and hoping that there will be a PC version as well.
                        I'm still hopeful of both as well but my gut says 99% ''No'' on both accounts
                        I'd also say the former is waay more likely than the latter. I just dont see a PC Show for the next 3-4 years. maybe by Show 25. certainly hope I'm way off base here though TBH
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                        • BigOscar
                          MVP
                          • May 2016
                          • 2971

                          #13
                          Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

                          Originally posted by Caulfield
                          I'm still hopeful of both as well but my gut says 99% ''No'' on both accounts
                          I'd also say the former is waay more likely than the latter. I just dont see a PC Show for the next 3-4 years. maybe by Show 25. certainly hope I'm way off base here though TBH
                          Tbh, trying to remember the first sports games on previous new consoles, they were generally pretty terrible as they were half and half games designed to run on both generations. I can't imagine anything ground breaking happening, the vast majority of the player base will still be on PS4 you'd imagine. I remember FIFA coming free with the Xbox1 on release over here in England and it was barely any different from the PS3 version

                          I don't recall any significant jump in the Show between PS3 and PS4 either, could be wrong on that but I don't recall any significant change

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                          • Blzer
                            Resident film pundit
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 42517

                            #14
                            Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

                            Originally posted by BigOscar
                            I don't recall any significant jump in the Show between PS3 and PS4 either, could be wrong on that but I don't recall any significant change
                            That's because they built the PS4 version to have feature parity with the PS3 version. It's essentially the PS3's code. Everything was built from the ground up, but nothing was reworked so to speak. It wasn't a brand new experience, just an enhanced one. That's why you can play MLB 20 and MLB 2006 and actually nearly recreate some exact moments in both games, down to the same fielding camera and Matty V. PBP lines probably.

                            And yet, MLB 20 is a beautiful, fine-tuned, well-oiled machine that obliterates its 15-year-old counterpart (as it should, two generations later no less). All people are clamoring for is a new engine. Hopefully by next-gen.
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                            • capa
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 5321

                              #15
                              Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

                              For me...offline = B+. Online = D

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