After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

[BlueSkies77]

Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

I agree completely with the first paragraph. Although I wouldn't call it a mess, I will say after 15 patches it now plays like a carbon copy of '19 which was my first Show experience.

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While I have not played 19 a whole lot I have played a fair amount of games since buying it in October last year. I just bought The Show 20 yesterday and I can say after downloading everything the gameplay is pretty different from 19. It’s noticeable. So I don’t agree with you that it’s a carbon copy of 19. Hitting is much improved, the balls have much more variety of speeds, much more emphasis of power off the bat on hard hit balls.

Fielding immediately feels better in 20 from 19 even after all the patches. Players react realistically and no longer look and feel like robots so to speak. The details, improvements and differences like always are not huge but they are there.

[countryboy]

Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

I will respectively and wholeheartedly disagree with that. 20 is night and day compared to 19.

Especially hitting and fielding. The entire feel of hitting the ball, the variety and the pace of fielding, catcher play...a lot better. And I loved 19. Wel I have loved every iteration as they add incremental gameplay improvements every year.

They still need to drastically improve collision detection and physics as well as tags (which have improved).

But at least they improve every cycle unlike other AAA sports games made by EA.


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Agreed. Gameplay wise '20 is far better than '19 and I played the hell out of both.

Catcher play is drastically better and the changes to hitting and fielding make '20 a lot better than '19.

[Caulfield]

Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

I had been wondering how much of a difference IRL MLB the 26th man roster spot would make and probably not a whole lot IMO (jury still out, gonna wait til next season to reserve judgement) but as it pertains to the Show, I cant say that I could tell a real difference myself, right away.

but fast-forward 4 months from March to July, and I'm really liking this rule, how it affects the Show. I never really realised just how much time I spent on roster mgmt. constantly shuttling my bullpen scrubs from the majors to Single A (I didn't want these guys being used in AAA or AA games). but with this single roster spot addition I find myself getting back to in-play quicker. after 4 months I have found the best fit for me is a 26 man majors (you dont have a choice on this), 25 man at AAA, 24 at AA (I just have 12 position players, 4 OF'ers) and still carry 15 players at Single A instead of 12.


how 'bout you cb, your 26th man, did you go with 13 pitchers or an extra position player?

[countryboy]

Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

I had been wondering how much of a difference IRL MLB the 26th man roster spot would make and probably not a whole lot IMO (jury still out, gonna wait til next season to reserve judgement) but as it pertains to the Show, I cant say that I could tell a real difference myself, right away.

but fast-forward 4 months from March to July, and I'm really liking this rule, how it affects the Show. I never really realised just how much time I spent on roster mgmt. constantly shuttling my bullpen scrubs from the majors to Single A (I didn't want these guys being used in AAA or AA games). but with this single roster spot addition I find myself getting back to in-play quicker. after 4 months I have found the best fit for me is a 26 man majors (you dont have a choice on this), 25 man at AAA, 24 at AA (I just have 12 position players, 4 OF'ers) and still carry 15 players at Single A instead of 12.


how 'bout you cb, your 26th man, did you go with 13 pitchers or an extra position player?

I'm liking the 26 man roster as well.

Myself, I'm carrying an extra pitcher at all 3 levels, preferably a spot starter who can eat up innings in the bullpen if need be or make a start when necessary. It's very beneficial for a guy like me who believes strong pitching is essential to the success of a ball club, especially starting pitching. So I'm able to look for more young arms to develop in the game since I have the extra spot to get them innings to pitch.

[GainzBro]

Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

Country Boy I had been thinking about my comments above and I am sorry for airing my petty grievances on your thread. That was immature of me and I picked the wrong place to do it. I do in fact really enjoy this game and play it almost daily. Thank you for your input to the OS forums and backing of The Show. I enjoy following your franchise and the attitude you've displayed when other members have been unkind in their words toward you. Again, I blew it in my comments and I'm sorry.

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[countryboy]

Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

Country Boy I had been thinking about my comments above and I am sorry for airing my petty grievances on your thread. That was immature of me and I picked the wrong place to do it. I do in fact really enjoy this game and play it almost daily. Thank you for your input to the OS forums and backing of The Show. I enjoy following your franchise and the attitude you've displayed when other members have been unkind in their words toward you. Again, I blew it in my comments and I'm sorry.

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You have nothing to apologize for but I do appreciate the gesture and the kind words.

[KnightTemplar]

Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

Country Boy I had been thinking about my comments above and I am sorry for airing my petty grievances on your thread. That was immature of me and I picked the wrong place to do it. I do in fact really enjoy this game and play it almost daily. Thank you for your input to the OS forums and backing of The Show. I enjoy following your franchise and the attitude you've displayed when other members have been unkind in their words toward you. Again, I blew it in my comments and I'm sorry.

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Cool guy. More people should learn that apologies are really okay. Peace, bro. Stay safe.

[jada855]

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I see these threads every year! The best experience must be full team control if that is how the OP is playing. This game does not function especially on defense from a Player Lock position player perspective. So much of defensive interaction is missing in this game it is almost unplayable. “CPU runners jogging into 2nd base when you are playing SS and cannot apply a tag or even attempt to is one of the most notable ones around these forums” and a list can definitely be compiled.

I just want to understand what people who make post like this are seeing. Cause it’s not small things that are overlooked it’s basic fundamentals on defense. So how can this be????

[countryboy]

Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

I play full team control and don’t see the issues you mentioned when playing.

Never tried player lock so I cannot speak to tgat experience


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[BlueSkies77]

Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

I’m definitely mainly an on the field gameplay guy, all I care about is playing a season as my Dodgers. So I don’t really know or care too much about the problems with Franchise details and depth. I can’t comment on those things.

But I wanted to say, is anyone else really grateful for this franchise? I mean The Show is the kind of game I would have loved as a kid, awesome gameplay and realism. The closest thing back then to me was World Series Baseball ‘95 on the Genesis which I adored.

My point is that after 15 years of playing a series it can be easy to get jaded with the small and mundane things. But if you look at the game(s) from the purist perspective the games are awesome. The presentation, detail, realism, gameplay, graphics and physics are all on point and really good! I personally have to flip my perspective on the game and be grateful for it (because it’s been 14 years so it’s easy to get used to it and bored), it’s the only serious Baseball franchise on the market and it’s gooood.

[jrnlgrn]

Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

I’m definitely mainly an on the field gameplay guy, all I care about is playing a season as my Dodgers. So I don’t really know or care too much about the problems with Franchise details and depth. I can’t comment on those things.

But I wanted to say, is anyone else really grateful for this franchise? I mean The Show is the kind of game I would have loved as a kid, awesome gameplay and realism. The closest thing back then to me was World Series Baseball ‘95 on the Genesis which I adored.

My point is that after 15 years of playing a series it can be easy to get jaded with the small and mundane things. But if you look at the game(s) from the purist perspective the games are awesome. The presentation, detail, realism, gameplay, graphics and physics are all on point and really good! I personally have to flip my perspective on the game and be grateful for it (because it’s been 14 years so it’s easy to get used to it and bored), it’s the only serious Baseball franchise on the market and it’s gooood.

+1 on loving World Series Baseball '95.

Totally agree the game has it's issues but of all the playable sports titles currently available I get the most enjoyment out of The Show. I roll my eyes at dumb things here and there but my experience 95% of the time is pure enjoyment. Also I don't aim to replicate whats happening in the real world so that might have some effect as well.

[GainzBro]

Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

+1 on loving World Series Baseball '95.

Totally agree the game has it's issues but of all the playable sports titles currently available I get the most enjoyment out of The Show. I roll my eyes at dumb things here and there but my experience 95% of the time is pure enjoyment. Also I don't aim to replicate whats happening in the real world so that might have some effect as well.

I also played hundreds of games on World Series '95. It was great!

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[jada855]

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I’m definitely mainly an on the field gameplay guy, all I care about is playing a season as my Dodgers. So I don’t really know or care too much about the problems with Franchise details and depth. I can’t comment on those things.

But I wanted to say, is anyone else really grateful for this franchise? I mean The Show is the kind of game I would have loved as a kid, awesome gameplay and realism. The closest thing back then to me was World Series Baseball ‘95 on the Genesis which I adored.

My point is that after 15 years of playing a series it can be easy to get jaded with the small and mundane things. But if you look at the game(s) from the purist perspective the games are awesome. The presentation, detail, realism, gameplay, graphics and physics are all on point and really good! I personally have to flip my perspective on the game and be grateful for it (because it’s been 14 years so it’s easy to get used to it and bored), it’s the only serious Baseball franchise on the market and it’s gooood.

BlueSkies77,

I definitely understand what you are saying. Yes The Show does do some things very well. I have been playing since 13 while not as long as you have. There just a break down of organic defensive gameplay when playing using player lock which is huge for the overall experience and hard to understand considering RTTS is the Franchise's most popular mode. I am not sure but hopefully the PS5 will allow for CPU players AI improvements on the field. I don't think will will see this in a version of MLB The Show 21 PS5 but definitely in MLB The Show 22 PS5.

[countryboy]

Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

Something else this game does well, is that sometimes your pitcher just doesn't have it. Doesn't have a feel for a particular pitch. Case in point, playing a game and Kyle Funkhouser (Overall 97) is on the hill for me and he just can't locate anything, including his fastball and curveball which are his two best pitches and his curve, when on, is filthy.

So instead of being about to challenge hitters more often, I'm having to take a different approach to try and get him thru this game, or at least thru 5/6 innings so I don't tax the bullpen.

Very frustrating but very rewarding and engaging at the same time.

[CaseIH]

Re: After 200 games played, MLB '20 delivers another all-star performance

Something else this game does well, is that sometimes your pitcher just doesn't have it. Doesn't have a feel for a particular pitch. Case in point, playing a game and Kyle Funkhouser (Overall 97) is on the hill for me and he just can't locate anything, including his fastball and curveball which are his two best pitches and his curve, when on, is filthy.

So instead of being about to challenge hitters more often, I'm having to take a different approach to try and get him thru this game, or at least thru 5/6 innings so I don't tax the bullpen.

Very frustrating but very rewarding and engaging at the same time.

Yeah, I like that aspect of the game, and while can be frustrating, its the same IRL, even the greatest pitchers of all time, had games where they struggled, even with being able to get their best pitch over and where they wanted to spot it.