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  • Scott
    Your Go-to TV Expert
    • Jul 2002
    • 20030

    #121
    Re: MLB The Show 21 Information So Far

    Originally posted by countryboy
    I’m done

    Some of you guys.....wow!

    Is it really that ****ing bothersome to you that you have to try to educate those who choose to preorder now when it literally has no ****ing consequence or effect on your life?

    Damn


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    • My993C2
      MVP
      • Sep 2012
      • 1588

      #122
      Re: MLB The Show 21 Information So Far

      I'd like to suggest getting off "to pre-order or not to pre-order" topic and yes I was wrong yesterday for briefly suggesting people should not pre-order at this time. I am a Libertarian "live and let live" sort of person and what I did yesterday without much thought on my part was not very Libertarian. With that said, some of us have valid concerns about what we have been told to date about the 2021 iteration of the game and we do want to know more details before we commit to buying it. Yes MLB The Show is a great game, but SDS should not be immune from criticism when they do wrong.

      Oh and I was playing a RTTS game yesterday with one of my pitchers and was quickly reminded at how useless bunting is in MLBTS 20 when I was faced with a sacrifice bunting scenario when my pitcher came to bat. I guess I forgot as it had been a couple of months since I last played with one of my pitchers. I got to tell you, buying MLBTS 21 might be worth it if SDS were to actually pay one ounce of attention to the offline users and fix bunting in their game. I may have been wrong for suggesting pre-ordering at this time may not be the thing to do, but I am not wrong in telling offline users, don't bother trying to bunt because bunting is a waste of time in MLBTS 20.
      Last edited by My993C2; 02-07-2021, 01:28 PM.

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      • Caulfield
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2011
        • 10986

        #123
        Re: MLB The Show 21 Information So Far

        Originally posted by BigOscar
        ....while also not tying up money months in advance for no reason.
        I've found the best way for me personally is to get whatever bills I'm expecting paid and out of the way ASAP. I'd also like to believe if someone is hard up for $10 in February, they'd spendthe rest of their money wiser come April, than on a video game no matter even if it's the best video game in the history of forever. but realistically, I know that isn't true.

        I've also been playing the Show long enough to know that even if at the most it's a roster update (and that's never been the case for me, I've always enjoyed the yearly release, whatever else new was added), I know I'm getting my money's worth.

        on the other foot, there have been other games that got great reviews but after I bought and started playing, I'd be done with it after a month because it just didn't do it for me. different strokes and all that jazz, makes the world go round lol
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        • NYJin2011tm
          MVP
          • Oct 2011
          • 2760

          #124
          Re: MLB The Show 21 Information So Far

          Originally posted by Caulfield
          I've found the best way for me personally is to get whatever bills I'm expecting paid and out of the way ASAP. I'd also like to believe if someone is hard up for $10 in February, they'd spendthe rest of their money wiser come April, than on a video game no matter even if it's the best video game in the history of forever. but realistically, I know that isn't true.

          I've also been playing the Show long enough to know that even if at the most it's a roster update (and that's never been the case for me, I've always enjoyed the yearly release, whatever else new was added), I know I'm getting my money's worth.

          on the other foot, there have been other games that got great reviews but after I bought and started playing, I'd be done with it after a month because it just didn't do it for me. different strokes and all that jazz, makes the world go round lol
          I pay all my bills as they come in also and not wait. That way I know what I got for other things.

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          • ninertravel
            MVP
            • Aug 2015
            • 4830

            #125
            Re: MLB The Show 21 Information So Far

            Originally posted by countryboy
            I’m done

            Some of you guys.....wow!

            Is it really that ****ing bothersome to you that you have to try to educate those who choose to preorder now when it literally has no ****ing consequence or effect on your life?

            Damn


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            This is where your wrong I hate when
            People say “stop complaining about what others do doesn’t effect you” the fact that sports game make millions off DD and ultimate team modes is why it effects us because people buy it or ore order in months in advance for the DD extra and
            “Cards” so they won’t work on franchise ect

            So enough of the “who cares what others do it doesn’t effect you nonsense” that’s like saying anti maskers don’t effect you if you wear a mask who cares what’s others do
            It won’t effect you.

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            • Scott
              Your Go-to TV Expert
              • Jul 2002
              • 20030

              #126
              Re: MLB The Show 21 Information So Far

              Originally posted by ninertravel
              This is where your wrong I hate when
              People say “stop complaining about what others do doesn’t effect you” the fact that sports game make millions off DD and ultimate team modes is why it effects us because people buy it or ore order in months in advance for the DD extra and
              “Cards” so they won’t work on franchise ect

              So enough of the “who cares what others do it doesn’t effect you nonsense” that’s like saying anti maskers don’t effect you if you wear a mask who cares what’s others do
              It won’t effect you.
              You realize there are separate teams that work on DD and Franchise, don't you?
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              • Armor and Sword
                The Lama
                • Sep 2010
                • 21780

                #127
                Re: MLB The Show 21 Information So Far

                Originally posted by Scott
                You realize there are separate teams that work on DD and Franchise, don't you?


                Do you realize there is basically one guy who works on franchise and several who work on DD

                I mean are you trying to imply that franchise has received the same attention as Diamond Dynasty?

                I am not pounding sand about franchise mode. I happen to think it is very good for “me”.

                But let’s not sit here and imply the same amount of resources have gone into franchise mode.

                Lets not insult our intelligence on this particular subject.

                They added small things for a few years to franchise mode:

                Radio Show
                Player Morale
                Player quirks
                Phases
                3 presentation themes (then down to two in MLB 20)
                Quality of life improvements to Sounds of the Show

                But the amount of attention Diamond Dynasty has gotten over the same cycle is two fold.

                And I expected that. It is a revenue producer.

                So yeah the resources have overwhelmingly been allocated to online (server overhaul) and Diamond Dynasty vs Franchise mode.


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                • Scott
                  Your Go-to TV Expert
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 20030

                  #128
                  Re: MLB The Show 21 Information So Far

                  Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                  Do you realize there is basically one guy who works on franchise and several who work on DD

                  I mean are you trying to imply that franchise has received the same attention as Diamond Dynasty?

                  I am not pounding sand about franchise mode. I happen to think it is very good for “me”.

                  But let’s not sit here and imply the same amount of resources have gone into franchise mode.

                  Lets not insult our intelligence on this particular subject.

                  They added small things for a few years to franchise mode:

                  Radio Show
                  Player Morale
                  Player quirks
                  Phases
                  3 presentation themes (then down to two in MLB 20)
                  Quality of life improvements to Sounds of the Show

                  But the amount of attention Diamond Dynasty has gotten over the same cycle is two fold.

                  And I expected that. It is a revenue producer.

                  So yeah the resources have overwhelmingly been allocated to online (server overhaul) and Diamond Dynasty vs Franchise mode.


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                  I was under the impression it was more than one person. I'm definitely not saying that Franchise has gotten the same attention, because it hasn't. I hope that changes this year.
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                  • jrnlgrn
                    Pro
                    • Oct 2018
                    • 3076

                    #129
                    Re: MLB The Show 21 Information So Far

                    We went from people going back and forth about pre orders to people talking about franchise v. DD

                    I'm confused whats happening in this thread.
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                    • Armor and Sword
                      The Lama
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 21780

                      #130
                      Re: MLB The Show 21 Information So Far

                      Originally posted by Scott
                      I was under the impression it was more than one person. I'm definitely not saying that Franchise has gotten the same attention, because it hasn't. I hope that changes this year.


                      Yeah basically one guy. Which hey....if that is all they can do it is what it is.

                      I think they have added (slowly) almost every year.

                      For 20 they greatly enhanced the AI in fantasy drafts. A very underrated improvement for those who like to do fantasy draft franchises (yours truly).

                      Let’s hope they do make a leap with even more features for franchise mode on the PS5.


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                      • Keirik
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 3770

                        #131
                        Re: MLB The Show 21 Information So Far

                        Originally posted by ninertravel
                        This is where your wrong I hate when
                        People say “stop complaining about what others do doesn’t effect you” the fact that sports game make millions off DD and ultimate team modes is why it effects us because people buy it or ore order in months in advance for the DD extra and
                        “Cards” so they won’t work on franchise ect

                        So enough of the “who cares what others do it doesn’t effect you nonsense” that’s like saying anti maskers don’t effect you if you wear a mask who cares what’s others do
                        It won’t effect you.

                        Did you just compare the effects of disregarding prevention of an infectious disease transmission to preordering a video game? Brah. Lol.
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                        • ninertravel
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 4830

                          #132
                          Re: MLB The Show 21 Information So Far

                          Originally posted by Keirik
                          Did you just compare the effects of disregarding prevention of an infectious disease transmission to preordering a video game? Brah. Lol.
                          I’m trying to say “who cares what others do it doesn’t effect you” Is a load of crap. Simple economics tells you that.

                          If you are the only one buying a cheeseburger at a shop and everyone is buying a beef burger then they met stop selling cheeseburgers so me saying “who cares what your eating I’ll enjoy what I’m eating” doesn’t work is that a better comparison?

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                          • tree3five
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 4005

                            #133
                            Re: MLB The Show 21 Information So Far

                            Originally posted by ninertravel
                            I’m trying to say “who cares what others do it doesn’t effect you” Is a load of crap. Simple economics tells you that.

                            If you are the only one buying a cheeseburger at a shop and everyone is buying a beef burger then they met stop selling cheeseburgers so me saying “who cares what your eating I’ll enjoy what I’m eating” doesn’t work is that a better comparison?

                            That’s why you pre order the cheeseburger lol. Just kidding just kidding.

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                            • Archie56
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 1556

                              #134
                              Re: MLB The Show 21 Information So Far

                              Originally posted by ninertravel
                              I’m trying to say “who cares what others do it doesn’t effect you” Is a load of crap. Simple economics tells you that.



                              If you are the only one buying a cheeseburger at a shop and everyone is buying a beef burger then they met stop selling cheeseburgers so me saying “who cares what your eating I’ll enjoy what I’m eating” doesn’t work is that a better comparison?
                              But does me preordering a game affect you in any way whatsoever? No, so why do you care so much about those of us that do it?

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                              • tabarnes19_SDS
                                Game Designer
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 3084

                                #135
                                Re: MLB The Show 21 Information So Far

                                I believe the "franchise" dev also works on other areas. They usually are across many different areas.

                                The problem usually is the programmers. They are limited. The year they did y2y saves it took a programmer the entire year to make it work, hence why there were no other changes to franchise that year.

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