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  • ninertravel
    MVP
    • Aug 2015
    • 4833

    #121
    Re: The Future of Franchise Mode in MLB The Show 21 and Beyond

    Originally posted by countryboy
    Why feel sorry for someone for choosing how they spend their entertainment dollar and what they value as a worthy purchase of that dollar?

    I mean I understand it may not be for you, and its not for me personally, but to insult them just because you don't share the choice of how they spend their money?
    knew you would be the one to reply over this and defend those people..

    would you defend gamblers as well?? because Microtransactions are essentially that. and they should be made illegal. MUT modes and DD modes I would have no issues within it didn't involve REAL money. but then again that mode wouldn't exist without real money.

    I will try and talk anyone out of wasting their money on things, I must insult my own wife as well if you think that is a insult.

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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52728

      #122
      Re: The Future of Franchise Mode in MLB The Show 21 and Beyond

      Originally posted by ninertravel
      knew you would be the one to reply over this and defend those people..

      would you defend gamblers as well?? because Microtransactions are essentially that. and they should be made illegal. MUT modes and DD modes I would have no issues within it didn't involve REAL money. but then again that mode wouldn't exist without real money.

      I will try and talk anyone out of wasting their money on things, I must insult my own wife as well if you think that is a insult.
      I'm not defending anyone, just pointing out the fact that there is no need to be insulting people who choose to spend money differently than you.

      And who are you to determine what is a waste of money, when its not your money being spent?

      As for gamblers, I gamble myself so I guess I would defend them?
      Last edited by countryboy; 03-01-2021, 08:28 PM.
      I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

      I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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      • SmashMan
        All Star
        • Dec 2004
        • 9710

        #123
        Re: The Future of Franchise Mode in MLB The Show 21 and Beyond

        I buy the game digitally every year. First day or preordered, full price, no option to trade in later to offset cost. I just like the game so I buy it and play it. I expect everyone’s opinion on how I spend my money, guys!

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        • ninertravel
          MVP
          • Aug 2015
          • 4833

          #124
          Re: The Future of Franchise Mode in MLB The Show 21 and Beyond

          Originally posted by countryboy
          I'm not defending anyone, just pointing out the fact that there is no need to be insulting people who choose to spend money differently than you.

          And who are you to determine what is a waste of money, when its not your money being spent?

          As for gamblers, I gamble myself so I guess I would defend them?
          Way I see it anyone can determine what a waste of money is. if someone thinks buying food is a waste of money over buying digital cards that are useless in 6 months time then sure why not!

          but throwing down $10 on something hoping to get what you want in a 1 and 4 chance is gambling and wasting money in my books, unless you fluke it first go. but then you get the addiction and keep going and will always fall behind. no one who gambles will EVER win more money then they have lost. unless they gamble once in their life and win it.

          We have had this conversation before year after year in these threads at this time every year. .. let's move on we are never going to agree here.

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          • ninertravel
            MVP
            • Aug 2015
            • 4833

            #125
            Re: The Future of Franchise Mode in MLB The Show 21 and Beyond

            Originally posted by SmashMan
            I buy the game digitally every year. First day or preordered, full price, no option to trade in later to offset cost. I just like the game so I buy it and play it. I expect everyone’s opinion on how I spend my money, guys!

            if you bought the game digital back in MLB the show 15 can you use your digital cards now?? do you use them now??? hahaha I had to bite. you can at least play franchise mode. and you own a game you can actually play forever.

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            • countryboy
              Growing pains
              • Sep 2003
              • 52728

              #126
              Re: The Future of Franchise Mode in MLB The Show 21 and Beyond

              Originally posted by SmashMan
              I buy the game digitally every year. First day or preordered, full price, no option to trade in later to offset cost. I just like the game so I buy it and play it. I expect everyone’s opinion on how I spend my money, guys!

              I have the $100 Jackie Robinson edition pre-ordered and paid for. Whether I play '21 or not doesn't matter as I'm a collector of video games and having the Jackie Robinson edition along with the hat is worth the price of my entertainment dollar because I want it in my collection.
              I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

              I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


              Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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              • countryboy
                Growing pains
                • Sep 2003
                • 52728

                #127
                Re: The Future of Franchise Mode in MLB The Show 21 and Beyond

                Originally posted by ninertravel
                Way I see it anyone can determine what a waste of money is. if someone thinks buying food is a waste of money over buying digital cards that are useless in 6 months time then sure why not!

                but throwing down $10 on something hoping to get what you want in a 1 and 4 chance is gambling and wasting money in my books, unless you fluke it first go. but then you get the addiction and keep going and will always fall behind. no one who gambles will EVER win more money then they have lost. unless they gamble once in their life and win it.

                We have had this conversation before year after year in these threads at this time every year. .. let's move on we are never going to agree here.
                If its a waste of money to you, then its a waste of money to you, I just didn't see the reason to insult those who view it as a value of their entertainment dollar.

                And I've won more money than I've lost gambling thus far in my life, and I've gambled more than once. But we'll leave it at that.
                I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


                Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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                • countryboy
                  Growing pains
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 52728

                  #128
                  Re: The Future of Franchise Mode in MLB The Show 21 and Beyond

                  As for the future of franchise mode, I'm anxious for April 1st (or whatever the date may be) to see what its store for '21.

                  Call me a hopeless romantic or whatever, but I don't buy the notion that franchise mode is a dying mode that will at some point be replaced. Maybe it is and eventually will, but until that day comes, I'll continue to be anxious to see whats new and hold out hope for whatever personal improvements that haven't been implemented, to be added at some point in the not so distant future.
                  I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                  I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


                  Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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                  • Rocket32
                    MVP
                    • May 2016
                    • 1639

                    #129
                    Re: The Future of Franchise Mode in MLB The Show 21 and Beyond

                    Originally posted by ninertravel
                    I feel sorry for all those people that spend $$$$$ on a sports game then a new one comes out and just think of all the cash they wasted on digital cards that become 100% useless after 6 months when they could have bought 5 video games with that real money.

                    Actually why should I feel sorry for them more money then brains those people!

                    at least with other games digital purchases might be useful for a few years. but with sports games they are nothing after 6 months and you buy the same crap again the next year.

                    I have no idea why people think 'run for 6 yards' and grind points for hours upon hours is interesting in collecting cards. I prefer the days of growing up actually owning real cards and swapping them with friends getting a collection.

                    Sports games though want to cross over to RPG mechanics battle royal crap (thinking fortnite makes the $$$$ in mainstream media) and they are losing their identify of what a actual sports game is
                    Sure, all the cards you spend time grinding for and for many people also invest extra money into, become obsolete when the next game comes out and then are totally lost after a few years but there’s another way to look at it. Did you enjoy the time you sunk into the game? Were you entertained and having fun? If yes, then it probably was worth it. As long as you aren’t spending more then you can afford to on it I don’t see the problem, to each their own.

                    And for what it’s worth, DD is probably the most friendly of the Ultimate Team style modes to players who don’t wanna spend real money on it. I don’t care for it personally but if other people do then good for them.

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                    • ninertravel
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 4833

                      #130
                      Re: The Future of Franchise Mode in MLB The Show 21 and Beyond

                      Originally posted by Rocket32
                      Sure, all the cards you spend time grinding for and for many people also invest extra money into, become obsolete when the next game comes out and then are totally lost after a few years but there’s another way to look at it. Did you enjoy the time you sunk into the game? Were you entertained and having fun? If yes, then it probably was worth it. As long as you aren’t spending more then you can afford to on it I don’t see the problem, to each their own.

                      And for what it’s worth, DD is probably the most friendly of the Ultimate Team style modes to players who don’t wanna spend real money on it. I don’t care for it personally but if other people do then good for them.
                      Well what people don't understand with the 'who cares what other people spend doesn't effect you comments'' is that them spending money on that mode is what is making them money and why it is effecting you THUS no need to work on franchise mode at all.. and all the focus can be on the DD mode.

                      but anyway if people are happy with people spending money on DD mode then don't complain that franchise mode is being ignored all the time because not caring is part of the reason.

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                      • kehlis
                        Moderator
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 27738

                        #131
                        Re: The Future of Franchise Mode in MLB The Show 21 and Beyond

                        Originally posted by ninertravel
                        Well what people don't understand with the 'who cares what other people spend doesn't effect you comments'' is that them spending money on that mode is what is making them money and why it is effecting you THUS no need to work on franchise mode at all.. and all the focus can be on the DD mode.

                        but anyway if people are happy with people spending money on DD mode then don't complain that franchise mode is being ignored all the time because not caring is part of the reason.
                        If that's your argument that's fine.

                        Going off on tangents about gambling is just deflecting your argument and serves no purpose.

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                        • ninertravel
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 4833

                          #132
                          Re: The Future of Franchise Mode in MLB The Show 21 and Beyond

                          Originally posted by kehlis
                          If that's your argument that's fine.

                          Going off on tangents about gambling is just deflecting your argument and serves no purpose.
                          in your opinion.

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                          • MLB14
                            Pro
                            • May 2014
                            • 636

                            #133
                            Re: The Future of Franchise Mode in MLB The Show 21 and Beyond

                            Originally posted by ninertravel
                            Well what people don't understand with the 'who cares what other people spend doesn't effect you comments'' is that them spending money on that mode is what is making them money and why it is effecting you THUS no need to work on franchise mode at all.. and all the focus can be on the DD mode.



                            but anyway if people are happy with people spending money on DD mode then don't complain that franchise mode is being ignored all the time because not caring is part of the reason.
                            Ding ding

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                            Do it. (Release The Show for PC)

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                            • kehlis
                              Moderator
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 27738

                              #134
                              Re: The Future of Franchise Mode in MLB The Show 21 and Beyond

                              Originally posted by ninertravel
                              in your opinion.
                              Based on the comments in this thread it's more than an opinion no?


                              Tell me again how comparing a video game to a completely separate (legal) activity such as gambling compares? I bet on horse races this last weekend, did I somehow hurt this game?


                              You want to talk about how people paying into a mode hurts other modes, I completely agree. You're probably better off sticking to that argument.

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                              • ninertravel
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 4833

                                #135
                                Re: The Future of Franchise Mode in MLB The Show 21 and Beyond

                                Originally posted by kehlis
                                Based on the comments in this thread it's more than an opinion no?


                                Tell me again how comparing a video game to a completely separate (legal) activity such as gambling compares? I bet on horse races this last weekend, did I somehow hurt this game?


                                You want to talk about how people paying into a mode hurts other modes, I completely agree. You're probably better off sticking to that argument.
                                if you were laying $5 down to get a card that is mike trout. I see no problem with that at all you are paying for what you want.

                                if you are laying down $5 in a 1 in 100 chance of getting Mike Trout then I see that as a problem and that is designed in a way like a slot machine (you remember when NBA2k did this???) so you end up paying $100 and still not getting what you want. and that's what these modes are designed to do. and in my opinion ONLY (many others might agree or NOT agree) it is like gambling and I don't agree to it. this I have a major problem with

                                different to making one bet on a horse race... I am more compare it to slot machines in casinos. not sporting bets, I will clarify here.

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