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  • Caulfield
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2011
    • 10986

    #151
    Re: MLB The Show 21 Coming to Xbox Game Pass on April 20

    Originally posted by XxGamerXx
    The show has a strong audience but is not a big one. The show before ps4 di not even crack 1 million in sales. Not sure what it sold last year but a quick search shows it was at 1 million and a bit more yearly which is not a big seller on a console with 125 million sold.

    SSD can make another game of their choice as a sony exclusive and I bet it would outsell the show easily.

    Putting the game on xbox would be a more profitable situation for sony but not when MS paid MLB to publish the game and put it on game pass. That reduces significantly the amount of people who will buy it on xbox and the money sony would receive.

    How this looks for Sony today?

    They are making a game for their console and charging 70 while also making a game for their competitor and having that competitor put it on a subscription plan....
    do we know if MLB paid Sony to publish the gamepass version?
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    • kehlis
      Moderator
      • Jul 2008
      • 27738

      #152
      Re: MLB The Show 21 Coming to Xbox Game Pass on April 20

      Originally posted by Dolenz
      I am not sure what the debate is about. Game Pass is a Great Deal. The more games you play using the service the better the value is.

      But no matter how great of a deal it is you can't argue that it is not, essentially, a rental (same as PS Plus). You have access for as long as you pay and as long as the game stays on the service.
      Just your typical console war masked as something different.

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      • XxGamerXx
        MVP
        • Jul 2018
        • 1029

        #153
        Re: MLB The Show 21 Coming to Xbox Game Pass on April 20

        Originally posted by Artman22
        It’s chess not checkers. It being on gamepass allows more people to have access to it. I can guarantee you next year a lot more people will buy it. These are corporations. They’re in it for money bro. The show makes a lot of money off diamond dynasty not just sales. I honestly think us gamers are making this a much bigger deal than these suits are. Microsoft paid a bag to have this on gamepass to entice more people to join Xbox and gamepass. Everyone is getting paid. It’s all a strategy to make more in the end.


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        We will see in a few years when the license is back up

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        • XxGamerXx
          MVP
          • Jul 2018
          • 1029

          #154
          Re: MLB The Show 21 Coming to Xbox Game Pass on April 20

          Originally posted by Caulfield
          do we know if MLB paid Sony to publish the gamepass version?
          Why would MLB pay Sony for MLB to be the publisher of the game on Xbox?

          The publisher is the one that makes the money for you. There is no chance that Sony said yes go put the game on game pass to get more players.

          This is a backdoor deal between MLB and Xbox which is why Sony is not the publisher for the xbox version.

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          • Caulfield
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2011
            • 10986

            #155
            Re: MLB The Show 21 Coming to Xbox Game Pass on April 20

            Originally posted by XxGamerXx
            Why would MLB pay Sony for MLB to be the publisher of the game on Xbox?

            The publisher is the one that makes the money for you. There is no chance that Sony said yes go put the game on game pass to get more players.

            This is a backdoor deal between MLB and Xbox which is why Sony is not the publisher for the xbox version.
            I was asking because I have no idea what agreement Sony and MLB reached and really didn't want to speculate and guess.

            the second part of the post, so MLB, by being the publisher is making money for Sony? am I understanding that right? I don't know, that's why I'm asking
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            • XxGamerXx
              MVP
              • Jul 2018
              • 1029

              #156
              Re: MLB The Show 21 Coming to Xbox Game Pass on April 20

              Originally posted by Caulfield
              I was asking because I have no idea what agreement Sony and MLB reached and really didn't want to speculate and guess.

              the second part of the post, so MLB, by being the publisher is making money for Sony? am I understanding that right? I don't know, that's why I'm asking
              We might never know the full scope but think about this.

              If Sony was good with the Show being on Game Pass day 1 why are they not the publisher. Before this was announced the xbox version was published by Sony but this was a deal between xbox and mlb which I am sure cost MS big money to give MLB. Now does MLB give Sony a cut from that bag? If am MLB I would say no because we are publishing the game and you get the cut from all games that are sold by xbox consoles.

              Believe me the dudes who love baseball will most likely buy the game on xbox maybe after a month or so with a discount from game pass. Many who are not will play it and be done with it because the show is not for casuals

              MS did this to enhance the optics of game pass. Sony has to be pissed that this happened because if MLB and MS put the game on game pass say 6 months later, Sony would not care at that point but this is a sony made game that is being put on game pass when they are charging their loyal customers money for the game

              At the end of the day the game will sell most on ps5 easily over what xbox would have done without game pass

              If am SSD and it happens again next year I will look to not be part of the license because it is just a bad look and Sony cannot afford to put the game on ps plus....day 1

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              • kehlis
                Moderator
                • Jul 2008
                • 27738

                #157
                Re: MLB The Show 21 Coming to Xbox Game Pass on April 20

                Originally posted by XxGamerXx
                We might never know the full scope but think about this.



                If Sony was good with the Show being on Game Pass day 1 why are they not the publisher. Before this was announced the xbox version was published by Sony but this was a deal between xbox and mlb which I am sure cost MS big money to give MLB. Now does MLB give Sony a cut from that bag? If am MLB I would say no because we are publishing the game and you get the cut from all games that are sold by xbox consoles.



                Believe me the dudes who love baseball will most likely buy the game on xbox maybe after a month or so with a discount from game pass. Many who are not will play it and be done with it because the show is not for casuals



                MS did this to enhance the optics of game pass. Sony has to be pissed that this happened because if MLB and MS put the game on game pass say 6 months later, Sony would not care at that point but this is a sony made game that is being put on game pass when they are charging their loyal customers money for the game



                At the end of the day the game will sell most on ps5 easily over what xbox would have done without game pass



                If am SSD and it happens again next year I will look to not be part of the license because it is just a bad look and Sony cannot afford to put the game on ps plus....day 1

                Cool, let’s keep guessing then. It’s been fun thus far.

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                • dubcity
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • May 2012
                  • 17874

                  #158
                  Re: MLB The Show 21 Coming to Xbox Game Pass on April 20

                  Xbox owners have been without a legit baseball game for so long, I think they are owed this, lol.

                  As much as people are endlessly praising game pass, I do fear that going down the road of including yearly sports games in these value subscription services will lead to a dialing back of development, and an even smaller year over year improvement/change in these titles. Feels like that could lead to an even bigger push towards leaning on microtransaction monetization and esports focus. Be careful what you wish for.

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                  • SmashMan
                    All Star
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 9734

                    #159
                    Re: MLB The Show 21 Coming to Xbox Game Pass on April 20

                    Originally posted by XxGamerXx
                    We might never know the full scope but
                    Found where you should’ve stopped the post.

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                    • Beelzebot44
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 125

                      #160
                      Re: MLB The Show 21 Coming to Xbox Game Pass on April 20

                      Originally posted by HozAndMoose
                      Its a fact. Gamepass is great but when you stop paying you cant play.
                      If you own an Xbox and don't have Gamepass you're doing it wrong and deserve not to be able to play.

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                      • Beelzebot44
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 125

                        #161
                        Re: MLB The Show 21 Coming to Xbox Game Pass on April 20

                        Originally posted by XxGamerXx
                        but this was a deal between xbox and mlb which I am sure cost MS big money to give MLB.
                        Maybe, maybe not. MLB is super concerned with getting a younger fanbase right now. That's why they forced the game you be multiplat to begin with. They want to get as many younger fans to have baseball on their mind as possible. It wouldn't shock me if MLB was just as happy to get it in as many hands as possible as they would have been with the revenue.

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                        • LastActionHero
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 2453

                          #162
                          Re: MLB The Show 21 Coming to Xbox Game Pass on April 20

                          Whatever the deal is, I believe all the in game purchases (stubs) still go to SDS so in that case everybody wins.
                          "When it's all set and done, reality is the best innovation."

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                          • zello144
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 2183

                            #163
                            Re: MLB The Show 21 Coming to Xbox Game Pass on April 20

                            Originally posted by Beelzebot44
                            Maybe, maybe not. MLB is super concerned with getting a younger fanbase right now. That's why they forced the game you be multiplat to begin with. They want to get as many younger fans to have baseball on their mind as possible. It wouldn't shock me if MLB was just as happy to get it in as many hands as possible as they would have been with the revenue.
                            Then MLB should have also asked playstation to put it as a PS+ game or on PSnow.

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                            • Beelzebot44
                              Rookie
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 125

                              #164
                              Re: MLB The Show 21 Coming to Xbox Game Pass on April 20

                              Originally posted by zello144
                              Then MLB should have also asked playstation to put it as a PS+ game or on PSnow.
                              Who says they didn't?

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                              • jrivera34
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 1296

                                #165
                                MLB The Show 21 Coming to Xbox Game Pass on April 20

                                Originally posted by Caulfield
                                and this is a great time to sell the ps5, at profit, and switch to xbox


                                Exactly what I plan on doing if the game plays well on the Xbox.

                                Is every gamepass game playable on a PC or android phone? If so, that really changes things for me as well. Taking the Show on the road with a phone or tablet would be really neat.


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