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  • bryanm1982
    MVP
    • Nov 2016
    • 3788

    #316
    Re: MLB lockout

    $230M - $242M CBT
    $700K -$780K min salary
    $40M bonus pool

    So they went a little lower on the bonus pool.
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    • Majingir
      Moderator
      • Apr 2005
      • 47586

      #317
      Re: MLB lockout

      Originally posted by ninertravel
      Ghost wins are just ridiculous, they might as well just say it is a 2 game series. but the lower seed has to win both... adding the terminology of 'ghost wins' is just plain stupid.



      just say the higher seed only has to win 1 game where the lower seed has to win 2 games.
      I don't think ghost win will be the actual terminology.

      Maybe they'll just call it something like "series advantage" or something random.

      Too bad we won't see the "pick your poison" format. Even for the WC round and LDS round it would've been fun. Actually, I would prefer that over the "1-0 series lead". Let the division winner who is in the WC round choose which of the other 3 teams they play in a best of 3 in that division winners ballpark.

      Not only would you have all games that round at home, you're choosing which of those teams you play. That seems like a fair enough advantage without adding imaginary wins.
      Last edited by Majingir; 03-08-2022, 09:18 PM.

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      • ninertravel
        MVP
        • Aug 2015
        • 4833

        #318
        Re: MLB lockout

        Originally posted by Jeffrey Smith
        I feel like the owners are coming around. If the players reject this offer I think they will look bad in the public eye.

        So far it’s the owners who have looked like they didn’t even want to negotiate.

        Hopefully they can get this done before anymore time is lost.


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        if it gets done I can believe in miracles.

        and we would somehow by miracle end up with 162 game season. I have no idea how they are gonna catch up on the missing first week of games though. . I guess double headers. but look at the yankees it was suppose to be a trip to texas and Houston how can you throw in double headers for a 4 game series??

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        • ninertravel
          MVP
          • Aug 2015
          • 4833

          #319
          Re: MLB lockout

          Originally posted by bryanm1982
          $230M - $242M CBT
          $700K -$780K min salary
          $40M bonus pool

          So they went a little lower on the bonus pool.
          yeah players want 80 mill pool right?? that will be the issue with this proposal right there. it's to far apart

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          • ninertravel
            MVP
            • Aug 2015
            • 4833

            #320
            Re: MLB lockout

            Originally posted by Majingir
            I don't think ghost win will be the actual terminology.

            Maybe they'll just call it something like "series advantage" or something random.

            Too bad we won't see the "pick your poison" format. Even for the WC round and LDS round it would've been fun. Actually, I would prefer that over the "1-0 series lead". Let the division winner who is in the WC round choose which of the other 3 teams they play in a best of 3 in that division winners ballpark.

            Not only would you have all games that round at home, you're choosing which of those teams you play. That seems like a fair enough advantage without adding imaginary wins.
            Correct I don't want to see on the scoreboard that Team X leads the series 1-0 at ALL, I am fine if team X wins the series 1-0. or team y wins the series 2-0.. I really would hate to see that someone is leading the series 1-0. I know it is nit picking and doesn't matter but it does visually.

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            • The Kid 24
              It's Show Time!
              • Jan 2007
              • 14765

              #321
              Re: MLB lockout

              Originally posted by ninertravel
              yeah players want 80 mill pool right?? that will be the issue with this proposal right there. it's to far apart

              Players need to comprise, this is something they’ve never had before… This is a W no matter what.


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              • ninertravel
                MVP
                • Aug 2015
                • 4833

                #322
                Re: MLB lockout

                Originally posted by The Kid 24
                Players need to comprise, this is something they’ve never had before… This is a W no matter what.


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                oh I know I really hope they do.

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                • bryanm1982
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 3788

                  #323
                  Re: MLB lockout

                  They had to know that if they started at $110 that it would end up being around $50M right?
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                  • KingOfLanglade
                    Pro
                    • Feb 2018
                    • 706

                    #324
                    Re: MLB lockout

                    Originally posted by The Kid 24
                    Players need to comprise, this is something they’ve never had before… This is a W no matter what.


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                    40 mil is only like 1.3 mil per team and it counts against the CBT for each club.. so knock 1.3 mil off that 230 starting CBT off rip. Realistically it needs to get 60 mil or CBT needs to get into the 250s by CBA end.

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                    • KingOfLanglade
                      Pro
                      • Feb 2018
                      • 706

                      #325
                      Re: MLB lockout

                      MLB again appears to be quite agro with the smaller parts of the deal when it gives on the big items. Encouraging that players get no QO and 6 teams in the draft lottery. Not sure if it is enough to offset the international lottery and MLB trying to further it’s control on rule changes.

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                      • ninertravel
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 4833

                        #326
                        Re: MLB lockout

                        Originally posted by bryanm1982
                        They had to know that if they started at $110 that it would end up being around $50M right?
                        yeah well that is common sense when you sell a house or a item you always raise the asking price much higher then you expect in return and try and meet in the middle.

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                        • KingOfLanglade
                          Pro
                          • Feb 2018
                          • 706

                          #327
                          Re: MLB lockout

                          This proposal release is super fleshed out, and quite convoluted in my opinion. The fact we are seeing all of this at one time gives me a lot of hope.

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                          • bryanm1982
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2016
                            • 3788

                            #328
                            Re: MLB lockout

                            CBT
                            Players: $229.5M - $247.5M
                            Owners: $230M - $242M

                            Min Salary
                            Players: $707K - $787K
                            Owners: $700K - $770K

                            Bonus Pool
                            Players: $67M
                            Owners: $40M
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                            • ninertravel
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 4833

                              #329
                              Re: MLB lockout

                              and the owners want to put a 3rd surcharge level in that seems to be the biggest issue too

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                              • ninertravel
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 4833

                                #330
                                Re: MLB lockout

                                Some other details of MLB proposal:

                                • Players can be optioned max 5 times before being exposed to waivers (this will screw the show up for this year franchise mode)
                                • Small markets can pick in draft lottery for two straight years before sliding to 10th pick.
                                • Large markets can pick only one year in lottery before going to 10th


                                • Top 2 Rookie of Year vote getters can get a full year of service.

                                • A team that brings up a player for Opening Day can net 3 draft picks over time, one pick per year, if that player does well in voting

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